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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Risico007 wrote:
    I am going to pray this rumor is a bad joke

    Why, because you don't want her returning?
  • Risico007Risico007
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    not in the slightest I am sorry but She doesn't fit the Craig bond's at all plus I felt Skyfall was a weak song
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    I think it's time for another instrumental main title sequence. I know that having a famous singer on board is big advertisement and that the song being played on radio + social media helps with the box office but if dozens of movies can be highly succesful without a song (like the Dark Knight Trilogy) then so can Bond 24.

    How about a song during the end credits and an instrumental main title sequence?
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    Murdock wrote:
    I want another hard rock song. Ballads are fine for say Moore and Brosnan, but I feel the main title songs should be harder edged for Craig's Bond. You Know My Name got it right and In my opinion even Another Way to Die got it right. Skyfall was good for the tone but it felt more for a Brosnan flick.

    Actually, Skyfall sounded like a Bond track. And since you're all about "Bond" music, you should love it.

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    "An MGM reporter told The Sun". We really must stop posting anything to do with that pathetic excuse for a newspaper, especially after the whole "Bond24 will be called Devil May Care" nonsense.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    edited March 2014 Posts: 5,745
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote:
    "An MGM reporter told The Sun". We really must stop posting anything to do with that pathetic excuse for a newspaper, especially after the whole "Bond24 will be called Devil May Care" nonsense.

    Really it is just a harmless bit of writing to get some attention to the site. I posted it simply to shift the topic. It is a fact that they have approached her to return. Rare that they do that so early. What interested me was the "..hasn't responded.." part. Not a maybe, not even a phonecall!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I see no problem in posting things like this and discussing them. Like @JWESTBROOK said, it shifts the topic and gives us something else to discuss. His thread, his rules.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    I want another hard rock song. Ballads are fine for say Moore and Brosnan, but I feel the main title songs should be harder edged for Craig's Bond. You Know My Name got it right and In my opinion even Another Way to Die got it right. Skyfall was good for the tone but it felt more for a Brosnan flick.


    Actually, Skyfall sounded like a Bond track. And since you're all about "Bond" music, you should love it.


    Um I do love Skyfall by Adele. I never said it didn't sound Bondian. All I said was Craig's Bond songs should be hard rock since Craig's Bond was more harder edged. /:)
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
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    Risico007 wrote:
    Terrific should we base ALL our decisions on the academy Awards?
    I'm not even sure those who keep on talking about Academy Awards nominations as a criteria actually mean it. The producers went and look for an Oscar winner with the Skyfall theme, and when they ask a score composer who never won an Oscar to use it to make it better in hope he wins at least one before the end of his career, they're supposed to be .. bad ?! Or maybe they mean they're bad because they keep on casting poor old zero nomination Craig, who I guess, is then supposed to be a bad actor ?


  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Award shows are nice and all, but if I can now factually state that Andy Samberg is a Golden Globe winner, then I have no hopes in the awards at all. They don't even have a bearing to me in terms of talent any longer. I watch and listen, I know what's good or isn't good, according to my own tastes. On that topic, how did Deakins manage to lose out on cinematography to 'Life of Pi,' which was mostly CG?
  • =bg==bg= SFO
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    All I want out of the song is the huge brass ala "Surrender" from TND.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    On that topic, how did Deakins manage to lose out on cinematography to 'Life of Pi,' which was mostly CG?
    Have you seen Life of Pi ? The trailers showed almost nothing of the non-CG scenes, this award is not the joke many seem to think...
    Both Life of Pi and Skyfall were shot with the same camera though !
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Got a little bit into it and just couldn't go any further, it wasn't doing it for me. The cinematography was good, though, just not as great as I thought Deakins' was for SF. I suppose I have a bit of favoritism for Deakins, as I love his work and wanted him to win for 'Prisoners,' as well.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited March 2014 Posts: 1,985
    Well, let's say that to find a "joke" with Oscar winners in this field, Avatar is a much better example than Life of Pi, IMO, if you want to use the fact a massive CG movie could end with a DOP award... At least in Life Of Pi, even in many CG scenes, there was a real actor to light somewhere :) But well, who are we, if 317 professionals say otherwise ?!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I don't think 'Avatar' should have won, either, especially with how much CG it used. But, I digress and we're now falling off topic.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Award shows are nice and all, but if I can now factually state that Andy Samberg is a Golden Globe winner, then I have no hopes in the awards at all.

    Nobody takes the Golden Globes seriously. The nominees and winners are selected by a few dozen easily bribed foreign journalists living in Hollywood. The Academy Awards are completely different, they are voted by about 6000 people who actually work in the industry. You can not simply say that if one award ceremony is a joke than they all are...
    Creasy47 wrote:
    On that topic, how did Deakins manage to lose out on cinematography to 'Life of Pi,' which was mostly CG?

    I will tell you how. The nominees in each category are selected by people who are actually familiar with the category. (The cinematography nominees for example are selected only by cinematographers.) The winners on the other hand are selected by the entire membership. Meaning that make up artists, writers, casting directors etc. voted in categories they were not completely familiar with. A non-cinematographer will usually vote for the "prettiest" film in the cinematography category. That's why Life of Pi won the cinematography award.

    The American Guild of Cinematographers on the other hand selected Skyfall for ther Best Cinematography winner last year...

    (I won't post more Oscar related off-topic thoughts in this thread, I promise! :bz )
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @PanchitoPistoles, don't worry, there are many, many examples of glaringly obvious "WTF" moments in both the Globes (even more irrelevant) and the Academy Awards that have made me less and less interested as the years have gone by. Never honed in on it, but I'm glad that Deakins won through a nomination by lots of other cinematographers! It was well deserved.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited March 2014 Posts: 1,985
    PanchitoPistoles wrote:
    The nominees in each category are selected by people who are actually familiar with the category.
    Or even who are familiar with the nominees, but ssshhh :)

    More seriously : here in France, we could watch some documentaries and reports on how The Artist ended with 10 nominations (include the DOP one) and 5 Oscars. Sorry for all the Academy Awards fans who think it's a kind of panel of experts, but the truth is that the core of the voters are quite old or very old, 9 out of 10 of the voters are more than 50yo, half are more than 65yo, some have a very thin link to the movie industry, they were member of a guild a long time ago and have not necessarily worked on a set a single day for decades... and many simply don't watch the movies they vote for at the nomination stages, unless Harvey Weinstein send them a chauffeur to go at a private screening near their house.

    I can't prove it obviously, but I think many voters never listened to Skyfall's score for instance. I think they voted for the son of Alfred Newman, 9 Oscars wins, and 35 or so nominations.

    Also back to the topic : I think Adele is a very important reason why Skyfall ended #1 movie at the French box office. The song was played all over the radios, I heard it several times while buying some foie gras in the shops, it never happened to the other fellows. There are not that many ways to promote movies for a very large audience here, this song was important for that.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    I don't want Adele to return for Bond 24 because we've never had an artist/band do two title songs in a row and I don't want them to break the tradition. I wouldn't mind if she returned later on down the line.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I like the SF theme, but it seemed pretty by-the-numbers. I'd rather not have Adele return for Bond24 for (as Mallory would put it) 'the sake of variety'. She is welcome to return down the track, however- and then, I'd like her to deliver something more upbeat and dynamic like a modern GF. Whether the artist or band is male or female, I don't care- but something rockier would be cool. \m/
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
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    Yes, I agree with much of what I am reading. However, if you are the producers it really must be very tempting to go the obvious route of wanting to repeat success and therefore have Adele do the next one. She won an Oscar and other awards and it was a great asset for the film.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited March 2014 Posts: 5,767
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    The only thing is the whole 'One Sony' goal where the company would want to use one of the artists they own the label to. Adele matches that. Arctic Monkeys, unfortunately, don't.
    At the time of From Dusk till Dawn, ZZ Top released their song She´s just killing me under two different companies, once on their own album, and once on the film soundtrack. So, where there´s a will, there´s the money.

    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    To reiterate that list:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    Adele
    Alicia Keys
    Ariana Grande
    Beyonce
    Celine Dion
    Chris Daughtry
    Christina Aguilera
    Daft Punk (likely would be paired with another artist)
    Demi Lovato
    Duran Duran
    Foo Fighters
    Gloria Estefan
    George Michael
    Jennifer Lopez
    John Legend
    John Mayer
    Justin Timberlake
    Katy Perry
    Kings Of Leon
    Leona Lewis
    Mariah Carey
    Natasha Bedingfield
    R. Kelly
    Sade
    Santana (likely would be paired with another artist)
    Shakira
    The Strokes
    Usher

    Those were the likely possibilities I picked from the full list, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_Music_artists
    I´d still take DD any day. Plus, they could use a decent challenge, they´ve been releasing mostly boring stuff on their last two albums.
  • petergreenhill5petergreenhill5
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    Paloma Faith would be a better bet.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    PeterGreenhill wrote:
    Paloma Faith would be a better bet.

    Paloma Faith would be epic!
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken I'm gonna use this to clarify that Dalton is tied with Craig
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    On the topic of Deakins, I think the man is a genius. Skyfall has some of the best cinematography in a film ever, and is probably in my ten most aesthetically pleasing films ever. Deakins was robbed of that Oscar.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    I would be surprised if Adele were to return for Bond 24? However I would not object to it, although I fancy a more upbeat kind of tune for the next movie!
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited March 2014 Posts: 4,619
    This isn't directly Bond 24 related but it's still something new from Sam Mendes:

    Sam Mendes’s 25 Rules for Directors

    Funny bits:
    Sam Mendes wrote:
    19. Please remember the Oscars are a TV show.
    and
    Sam Mendes wrote:
    23. On screen, your hero can blow away 500 bad guys, but if he smokes one fucking cigarette, you’re in deep shit.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger The Bananas
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    Exactly. You can also slit a throat, but showing boobs is a nono.
  • LegateDamarLegateDamar
    edited March 2014 Posts: 381
    Foo Fighters would actually be pretty cool.

    Van Halen would be great too. I'm pretty sure that DLR is a Bond fan.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Agreed on the cigarette thing!
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