The bad movies you love

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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I've only watched King Kong Lives when I was a child but remember really enjoying it. And since there was King Kong junior in it I kept waiting for a sequel that never came.

    You may or may not be pleased to know that a new Godzilla vs King Kong is being talked about among the companies that own them. From the sounds of it it could be made since both are somewhat popular again.


    Risico007 wrote: »
    A few more films

    Highlander (apparently the original film is considered bad by some people yet I love it and would argue it's Connery's best film post bond yes even better then last crusade)
    Highlander: Endgame same as the first it's very flawed but still isn't nearly as bad as 2 3 or "the source" God what horrible dreck that was in fact. The source is worse the. Highlander 2

    I actually am a Highlander fan. The first is amazing but I think I enjoy Endgame the most and three is decent enough. Two was terrible and The Source was so bad that I can't even block it from my memory.
    A remake of the original has been talked about for awhile and at one point Ryan Reynolds was attached to it. Even though I'm tired of remakes I kind of hope this one happens.

    For me I think a show would be better check out my pitch a movie or tv show thread later today as I am posting how I would reboot the highlander franchise.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I've only watched King Kong Lives when I was a child but remember really enjoying it. And since there was King Kong junior in it I kept waiting for a sequel that never came.

    You may or may not be pleased to know that a new Godzilla vs King Kong is being talked about among the companies that own them. From the sounds of it it could be made since both are somewhat popular again.

    I remember seeing king Kong versus Mecha Kong or whatever the name was and enjoying it tremendously. Still, I want my sequel to King Kong Lives, with King Kong Junior, with the same production quality of course.
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Daredevil
    Daredevil's only 'bad' in the theatrical version IMHO.
    Any film starring Ben Affleck is automatically bad. Ditto Nicholas Cage.

    Without exception.

    Nicholas Cage is just plain BAD. Affleck's one good film for a long time was Good Will Hunting but Gone Girl is good material but for the most part he is a poor substitute for his buddy Matt Damon.
    Damon has had a great career and finds good roles, Ben not so much.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 11,175
    OHMSS69 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Daredevil
    Daredevil's only 'bad' in the theatrical version IMHO.
    Any film starring Ben Affleck is automatically bad. Ditto Nicholas Cage.

    Without exception.

    Nicholas Cage is just plain BAD. Affleck's one good film for a long time was Good Will Hunting but Gone Girl is good material but for the most part he is a poor substitute for his buddy Matt Damon.
    Damon has had a great career and finds good roles, Ben not so much.

    Affleck is really good in Argo.

    Regarding Cage, I think there's a good actor struggling to get out (Leaving Las Vegas), but I won't deny he can be sometimes just so laughable.


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    Ben Affleck has a terrible ego and little talent to make us forgive said ego. I'm sure he's been in some good movies but unless there's somebody else in it I want to see or he's doing a project I really want to see I won't watch his movies and haven't done so since Daredevil.

    And to get back on topic: I'm sure his filmography is full of bad movies but I don't think there are bad movies to love.
  • edited January 2016 Posts: 1,008
    The Death Wish series, as you can guess by my avatar: five movies full of such extreme bigotry and yet, maybe for that, they're action and comedy gold.
    Mind you: I'm a Socialist and left-wing man, and I still love the series: they're just fun, fun and fun. Trying to give a poiltic reading on them is useless: they're so over the top, such an adrenaline rush (well, II is quite slow paced IMHO) that one can't think, just enjoy.

    That said, if a person takes these films seriously, he or she can turn into "Paul Kersey", a so-called writer infamous for his white supremacist slurs and for condoning racist and neo-nazi related crimes, including the murdering of innocent people.
    He's so sick I think the even the "real" Paul Kersey would add him to his list.

    Edit: I wrote this after a rough night and it showed. Holy shit, what a galore of grammar mistakes!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e il momento che verrà
    edited January 2016 Posts: 6,158
    There is that one film, that everyone really hates that I love:

    Oliver Stone's Alexander.

    I don't even think it's bad, it's a misunderstood masterpiece.

    Furthermore, some B-horror that I enjoy:

    Beyond the Door
    Halloween III: Season of the Witch
    Tale of the Mummy
  • Posts: 14,113
    If it is not bad (or if you don't consider it bad) it has no place here.
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    Ice age 4
  • SerialHitmanSerialHitman Plotting my revenge
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    For some reason I couldn't stop laughing at Scary Movie 5 when I watched it with a few friends about two years ago.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    For some reason I couldn't stop laughing at Scary Movie 5 when I watched it with a few friends about two years ago.

    I saw the one where Dr Phil has to saw off his own foot. Hilarious scene.
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    I already mentioned a few of my movies everyone hates but me but here is another.

    Live Free or Die Hard. Again I still don't get what everyone's issue is here for me the die hard films didn't start sucking until the latest one. I loved the bad guy and the way he kills him is original and exciting (come on how could you not cheer when he shot himself to kill the bad guy) will beat my tope 2 films Die Hard or Die Hard with a Vengence no but its not that bad in fact it's far better then 5 and I would even rank it higher then 2. And yet everyone complains

    "the action is unrealistic"

    "the villain scheme is too over the top"

    Shrugs I guess but compared to the first three it's NOT that much different then McLane fighting a guy on a wing of a plane, or the whole finale of Die Hard with a Venence heck even the first film had it's moments of unbelievable luck and McLane being near invinciable (the amount of blood he lost with the glass and his foot AND the fact there is a blood trail to him why doesn't gruber send to of his guys to follow the trail and kill him?) but they all get a pass like I said Live Free or Die Hard is it the best no but is it the worst NO. Does it deserve to be roped in with A Good Day to ruin a franchise I mean A good Day to Die Hard.. no.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    After I saw 5 I got a Newfound respect for 4. I didn't like it on my first couple viewing but after watching DH5 I like it a lot.
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    I saw a great comment on Youtube once:

    "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard".

    It actually does! They do at least try (albeit occasionally) to make McClane an older, more jaded character.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I saw a great comment on Youtube once:

    "Die Hard 5 makes Die Hard 4 look like Die Hard".

    It actually does! They do at least try (albeit occasionally) to make McClane an older, more jaded character.

    Agreed and Bruce Willis is still McClane but in the modern world. DH5 McClane is just Bruce Willis bored out of his mind.
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    to be honest though I loved Live Free or Die Hard when it came out. I was also really excited for A good Day to Die hard... but then I saw the film and yeah!!
  • Toxic Avenger- practically the poster child for the phrase 'guilty pleasure'
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Toxic Avenger- practically the poster child for the phrase 'guilty pleasure'
    You know I was a stuntman In Toxie 4, right? I even played a cop too.
    (my claim to fame)
    :\">
  • Get out! I actually like 4 more than the original! Just the other day I watched the documentary, Apocalypse Soon, the making of-- it looked like a stressful, hectic shoot! Did you meet Lloyd Kaufman? Which cop were you?

    Between you and @Talos7 this place is turning into a celebrity hangout! ;)
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    Detonator/Death Train. I am not sure it is truly such a bad movie, but it has a lot of the things that bad movies are made of: low-budget, made for TV movie and the scenario is cliché... Yet there is so much to love about it. It's set on a train, for one, a train that goes through Europe as well, it has some great casting (Patrick Stewart, Christopher Lee, Clarke Peters) who play their role with a straight face, it has a good deal of investigation and thus it's not a pure brainless action fest. I dare to say that it is my third favourite Brosnan movie, after GE and The Tailor of Panama. Not because of him, but because of the other members of the cast. If anything else, the casting director did his job. I might buy the DVD. And the novel it is based on, although I am not expecting much from it. There are far greater guilty pleasures, but this is definitely one of them.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    it looked like a stressful, hectic shoot!
    Well, I'd characterize it as insanely faced-paced.
    Did you meet Lloyd Kaufman?
    Briefly, he was a funny guy. He gave me his rental car in Poughkeepsie to drive for the chase scene (the Saturn) & said "Keep on Scott's (the other driver) ass, but don't HIT him- this is a rental. Wait, it's insured... okay, just try not to hit him."
    Which cop were you?
    I was the pursuit cop, plus a cop on the street in a different scene. I was also the guy Toxie threw over the wall in a fight scene (he was a nice guy, and YES as big as he appears to be onscreen- in rehearsal he threw me too high out of camera view ). Plus assorted extras.
  • Die Another Day. Especially when I'm really, really drunk.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Detonator/Death Train. I am not sure it is truly such a bad movie, but it has a lot of the things that bad movies are made of: low-budget, made for TV movie and the scenario is cliché... Yet there is so much to love about it. It's set on a train, for one, a train that goes through Europe as well, it has some great casting (Patrick Stewart, Christopher Lee, Clarke Peters) who play their role with a straight face, it has a good deal of investigation and thus it's not a pure brainless action fest. I dare to say that it is my third favourite Brosnan movie, after GE and The Tailor of Panama. Not because of him, but because of the other members of the cast. If anything else, the casting director did his job. I might buy the DVD. And the novel it is based on, although I am not expecting much from it. There are far greater guilty pleasures, but this is definitely one of them.

    I found and bought the original novel (to be fair it's an unused screenplay by Alistair MacLean adapted posthumously to a novel by another writer) in a second hand bookshop. I have no excuse to not watch it!
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Detonator/Death Train. I am not sure it is truly such a bad movie, but it has a lot of the things that bad movies are made of: low-budget, made for TV movie and the scenario is cliché... Yet there is so much to love about it. It's set on a train, for one, a train that goes through Europe as well, it has some great casting (Patrick Stewart, Christopher Lee, Clarke Peters) who play their role with a straight face, it has a good deal of investigation and thus it's not a pure brainless action fest. I dare to say that it is my third favourite Brosnan movie, after GE and The Tailor of Panama. Not because of him, but because of the other members of the cast. If anything else, the casting director did his job. I might buy the DVD. And the novel it is based on, although I am not expecting much from it. There are far greater guilty pleasures, but this is definitely one of them.

    I found and bought the original novel (to be fair it's an unused screenplay by Alistair MacLean adapted posthumously to a novel by another writer) in a second hand bookshop. I have no excuse to not watch it!

    Was the novel good? Or bad? If it was bad, did you enjoy it anyway?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Oliver Stone's Alexander.

    I don't even think it's bad, it's a misunderstood masterpiece.
    I had the misfortune of watching this film. Boy was it uncomfortable to get through. Horrid imho.
  • Posts: 1,008
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Detonator/Death Train. I am not sure it is truly such a bad movie, but it has a lot of the things that bad movies are made of: low-budget, made for TV movie and the scenario is cliché... Yet there is so much to love about it. It's set on a train, for one, a train that goes through Europe as well, it has some great casting (Patrick Stewart, Christopher Lee, Clarke Peters) who play their role with a straight face, it has a good deal of investigation and thus it's not a pure brainless action fest. I dare to say that it is my third favourite Brosnan movie, after GE and The Tailor of Panama. Not because of him, but because of the other members of the cast. If anything else, the casting director did his job. I might buy the DVD. And the novel it is based on, although I am not expecting much from it. There are far greater guilty pleasures, but this is definitely one of them.

    I found and bought the original novel (to be fair it's an unused screenplay by Alistair MacLean adapted posthumously to a novel by another writer) in a second hand bookshop. I have no excuse to not watch it!

    Was the novel good? Or bad? If it was bad, did you enjoy it anyway?

    I have it, but haven't read it yet...

  • gumboltgumbolt Now with in-office photocopier
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    Live Wire, starring a pre-Bond, post-Steele Pierce Brosnan is an enjoyable guilty pleasure. Also, the ITV mini-series/TV Movie Jack the Ripper starring Michael Caine, Jane Seymour (LALD), Michael Gothard (FYEO), George Sweeney (FYEO), Edward Judd (could have been a good Bond in the 60s) and Lewis Collins (he would have been a great bet for Bond in the mid-80s but Cubby said no) is just fabulously bad - I love it! But for me, you can't beat Deep Blue Sea, the shark spectacular. Thomas Jane, if he was British, would have rivalled DC for Bond if they had dispensed with the whole depth of character thing. When I finally buy it on DVD I will know a line in cultural self-discipline has been crossed!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    gumbolt wrote: »
    Live Wire...Deep Blue Sea

    I have 'em both. The definitions of guilty pleasure! :)>-
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    The Brothers Solomon with Will Forte & Will Arnett. Really, really dumb.

    The Last Dragon with Vanity. Sho' Nuff!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Chang wrote: »
    The Last Dragon with Vanity. Sho' Nuff!
    That scene in the theatre was pretty much spot-on to how it was in the 70's & early 80's theatre on 42nd st in NYC!
    :))
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