NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Members' Reviews and Discussions (SPOILERS)

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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I cracked and watched NTTD for my seventh time… I can’t get over how powerful this film is. It gets stronger and stronger with each viewing. It captures Fleming. It elevates the last film. It creates new threats. It’s almost perfect.
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    peter wrote: »
    I cracked and watched NTTD for my seventh time… I can’t get over how powerful this film is. It gets stronger and stronger with each viewing. It captures Fleming. It elevates the last film. It creates new threats. It’s almost perfect.
    Hey, now I want to see it again after that take....
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    I'm thinking of taking yet another theater trip, but unsure. My feelings have been almost all positive about it lately, and to know how long it will be before the next Bond film comes makes it extra tempting.
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    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Good to hear, @StirredNotShaken. I would have loved to have seen it in the theater more, but at least I did get to see it 3 times. I won't be doing any paid view, just waiting on the DVD now.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    peter wrote: »
    I cracked and watched NTTD for my seventh time… I can’t get over how powerful this film is. It gets stronger and stronger with each viewing. It captures Fleming. It elevates the last film. It creates new threats. It’s almost perfect.

    Completely agree mate it does capture Fleming, there's moments were Fleming's Bond jump off the screen. Daniel nails being Fleming's Bond

    @FoxRox if you have time, do it mate. Unfortunately it might be a while before Bond 26. As much I dislike parts of NTTD, there's something magical about seeing Bond on the big screen and nothing beats it
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited November 2021 Posts: 23,449
    Edit: wrong thread
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    This has been a spoiler thread for quite a while.

    But let's not turn every non-spoiler thread into a spoiler thread just yet.

    It's still to be released in the Philippines 15th December, poor buggers.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,372
    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.

    What would you say your nitpicks are after nine viewings?
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.

    What would you say your nitpicks are after nine viewings?

    Oh, tiny things I personally would have changed if I had made the film, but that I also don't consider inherently "bad." I think my biggest individual one is Felix's line about "getting back to [his] family," it's a bit of a cliche and I think having him ONLY say "I want to save the world again" would have been just as fine. That kind of shows you my feelings about the film if THAT'S the biggest thing I'd have changed :)) :))

    Some other miniscule things that, again, aren't even negatives really, I just would have cut them together a bit differently...

    - the Universal dots blocking out the first couple frames of the smaller dots, but this is a distributor thing and isn't even on every copy of the film, so I don't know if it even counts
    - I don't know if Nomi needed to be in the establishing shot of the club in Jamaica; I think seeing her at the side of the road and then bumping into Bond later during the club scene was sufficient
    - During the Norway chase, three motorcycles come after Bond in the open field, but in the forest, Madeleine takes out one and Bond takes out another, leaving one that just kind of disappears. I've settled this one in my head by thinking that the third motorcycle simply wiped out in the open field and we just didn't get to see it happen.
    - The reveal of the smashed vial in Safin's hand feels like it should have come with the "poisoned with heartbreak" line; we get it a few moments later instead

    I had to REALLY reach for all of these :)) :)) :))
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    I wish they cut into “You Know My Name” immediately after Louie Armstrong in the closing credits. Would feel very full circle.
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    I wish they cut into “You Know My Name” immediately after Louie Armstrong in the closing credits. Would feel very full circle.

    Especially considering the last line of the film. Tonally, it wouldn't have worked, but it would have made thematic sense to play YKMN after Madeleine's final line.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.

    What would you say your nitpicks are after nine viewings?

    Oh, tiny things I personally would have changed if I had made the film, but that I also don't consider inherently "bad." I think my biggest individual one is Felix's line about "getting back to [his] family," it's a bit of a cliche and I think having him ONLY say "I want to save the world again" would have been just as fine. That kind of shows you my feelings about the film if THAT'S the biggest thing I'd have changed :)) :))

    Some other miniscule things that, again, aren't even negatives really, I just would have cut them together a bit differently...

    - the Universal dots blocking out the first couple frames of the smaller dots, but this is a distributor thing and isn't even on every copy of the film, so I don't know if it even counts
    - I don't know if Nomi needed to be in the establishing shot of the club in Jamaica; I think seeing her at the side of the road and then bumping into Bond later during the club scene was sufficient
    - During the Norway chase, three motorcycles come after Bond in the open field, but in the forest, Madeleine takes out one and Bond takes out another, leaving one that just kind of disappears. I've settled this one in my head by thinking that the third motorcycle simply wiped out in the open field and we just didn't get to see it happen.
    - The reveal of the smashed vial in Safin's hand feels like it should have come with the "poisoned with heartbreak" line; we get it a few moments later instead

    I had to REALLY reach for all of these :)) :)) :))

    True, though that shot of the LED dance floor reflecting off of Nomi's sunglasses is so damn slick, I would've kept it for that reason alone.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited November 2021 Posts: 4,343
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.

    What would you say your nitpicks are after nine viewings?
    I had to REALLY reach for all of these :)) :)) :))

    Blofeld pointing out Bond’s remark about Swann being good at hiding things doesn’t make sense I would’ve cut it.
    I also have a problem with Bond making breakfast, but that’s just me perhaps.
    Then I would’ve put much weight on Safin being sterile because of the poisoning, because that would’ve made his obsession of leaving something behind more poignant.
    Plus, the scene were he just let Mathilde go is weak and kinda random.
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    No I think the Blofeld quote, might be something he heard Bond says back in Spectre.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited November 2021 Posts: 4,343
    Stamper wrote: »
    No I think the Blofeld quote, might be something he heard Bond says back in Spectre.

    Nope. Bond literally say that to M the scene before.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    matt_u wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.

    What would you say your nitpicks are after nine viewings?
    I had to REALLY reach for all of these :)) :)) :))

    Blofeld pointing out Bond’s remark about Swann being good at hiding things doesn’t make sense I would’ve cut it.
    I also have a problem with Bond making breakfast, but that’s just me perhaps.
    Then I would’ve put much weight on Safin being sterile because of the poisoning, because that would’ve made his obsession of leaving something behind more poignant.
    Plus, the scene were he just let Mathilde go is weak and kinda random.

    I like the breakfast scene. But your other points, especially the ones about Safin, could definitely be improved (but I still like the finale a lot the way it is).
  • M16_CartM16_Cart Craig fanboy?
    Posts: 538
    The other film reviews have <10 replies and this one has hundreds. This thread is having extended discussions rather than just users posting their review.

    I feel like a new NTTD thread should be made for the Review subforum.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited November 2021 Posts: 40,372
    M16_Cart wrote: »
    The other film reviews have <10 replies and this one has hundreds. This thread is having extended discussions rather than just users posting their review.

    I feel like a new NTTD thread should be made for the Review subforum.

    I think it's a good idea, as well, something I was thinking about over the last few days. I'll get it started shortly, once we figure out what to do with this one.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Ninth viewing today (well, yesterday at this point). Still in my top 20 films and still ahead of Casino Royale as my #1 Bond film. At this point I think I've easily found every single "nitpick" (I hesitate to consider my criticisms even that significant) I'll ever find with the film.

    What would you say your nitpicks are after nine viewings?
    I had to REALLY reach for all of these :)) :)) :))

    Blofeld pointing out Bond’s remark about Swann being good at hiding things doesn’t make sense I would’ve cut it.
    I also have a problem with Bond making breakfast, but that’s just me perhaps.
    Then I would’ve put much weight on Safin being sterile because of the poisoning, because that would’ve made his obsession of leaving something behind more poignant.
    Plus, the scene were he just let Mathilde go is weak and kinda random.

    Bond never cooks his own meals. That's what May was for. In his world food just shows up according to Fleming, so it's not just you.
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    I meant something said off screen. Bond says it to M, so he may have say it to Blofeld during Spectre at one point (that we never saw), so that piece of information Blofeld kept and he set the trap at the grave.

    Not everything have to be plainly spelled to the audiences like Nolan does.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Anyone else notice that the Foxgloves plant, discussed by Safin and Madeleine in her office, is the same plant that creates the poison LeChiffre used on Bond in CR?

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited November 2021 Posts: 4,343
    TripAces wrote: »
    Anyone else notice that the Foxgloves plant, discussed by Safin and Madeleine in her office, is the same plant that creates the poison LeChiffre used on Bond in CR?

    Yep. It was discussed as well in another thread. Very cool anyway!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,372
    TripAces wrote: »
    Anyone else notice that the Foxgloves plant, discussed by Safin and Madeleine in her office, is the same plant that creates the poison LeChiffre used on Bond in CR?

    I had no idea, hadn't seen that mentioned until now. That's great.
  • DraxCucumberSandwichDraxCucumberSandwich United Kingdom
    Posts: 208
    - During the Norway chase, three motorcycles come after Bond in the open field, but in the forest, Madeleine takes out one and Bond takes out another, leaving one that just kind of disappears. I've settled this one in my head by thinking that the third motorcycle simply wiped out in the open field and we just didn't get to see it happen.

    Does Madeleine not actually take out two of the bikers? One when they arrive at the shelter, and then another one when Bond is off doing his Ewok thing - it’s a very brief ‘blink and you miss it’ shot in the movie
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,372
    - During the Norway chase, three motorcycles come after Bond in the open field, but in the forest, Madeleine takes out one and Bond takes out another, leaving one that just kind of disappears. I've settled this one in my head by thinking that the third motorcycle simply wiped out in the open field and we just didn't get to see it happen.

    Does Madeleine not actually take out two of the bikers? One when they arrive at the shelter, and then another one when Bond is off doing his Ewok thing - it’s a very brief ‘blink and you miss it’ shot in the movie

    This is how I remember it. Things might've gone differently had Bond left her that second handgun.
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    - During the Norway chase, three motorcycles come after Bond in the open field, but in the forest, Madeleine takes out one and Bond takes out another, leaving one that just kind of disappears. I've settled this one in my head by thinking that the third motorcycle simply wiped out in the open field and we just didn't get to see it happen.

    Does Madeleine not actually take out two of the bikers? One when they arrive at the shelter, and then another one when Bond is off doing his Ewok thing - it’s a very brief ‘blink and you miss it’ shot in the movie

    I thought that after my second or third viewing, but the person she shoots right before Safin is revealed isn't wearing the motorcycle gear, he's in more standard fatigues.
  • DraxCucumberSandwichDraxCucumberSandwich United Kingdom
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    I thought that after my second or third viewing, but the person she shoots right before Safin is revealed isn't wearing the motorcycle gear, he's in more standard fatigues.

    Ah, I missed that detail - it’s a pretty brief moment in an intense scene
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    Well, I gave in. One last ride to the theater for this one. Really enjoyed it a lot first two watches, wanted just one more before it’s gone and we have another 6 years before the next film X)
  • FoxRox wrote: »
    Well, I gave in. One last ride to the theater for this one. Really enjoyed it a lot first two watches, wanted just one more before it’s gone and we have another 6 years before the next film X)

    I was tempted to but decided not....home telly is much more comfortable... :D
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    I'm looking forward to many future home viewings as well. Having seen this three times now, one of the most impressive things about NTTD to me is that it's been incredibly rewatchable for what it is. I would have suspected with all the content it covers it would have been one of the less rewatchable Bond movies, but I'm not getting the least bit sick of it yet having seen it so much in a short span. It's full of scenes that I think are superb and worthy of iconic status within a 25-film franchise. Craig's performance is just so fantastic. I had to see *my* Bond on the big screen one final time though, and I was glad I did.
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