No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My bet? Friday, November 26th, 2018 in the UK and Friday, November 9th, 2018 in the US.

    If only that were the case. Totally doable without Craig, but with his schedule, 2019 is the earliest we will get 'Bond 24.'
    I don't think this contradicts with Craig's schedule. He's doing Othello later this year, followed by the Purity TV series. Unless the show is picked up further, Craig has ample time to both play Bond a final time and to contribute to the creative process.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That's ample time to you and I, though. Who knows what type of break Craig will require between 'Othello' and his television series, which will be a good 22 episodes long or so, last I saw.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Depressing

    Totally.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I'm 31. I don't want to only get 2 Bond films in by the time I'm 40. It's ridiculous.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My bet? Friday, November 26th, 2018 in the UK and Friday, November 9th, 2018 in the US.

    If only that were the case. Totally doable without Craig, but with his schedule, 2019 is the earliest we will get 'Bond 24.'

    My prediction: 2015.
  • I would disagree that there is no consistency in the Craig era. There is still a common feeling in his films that is absent in all of the others. The Moore era, for example, made a shift from TSWLM onwards, becoming more fantastical and lighthearted than LALD and TMWTGG (generally) but the era still feels mostly internally cohesive and very 'Moore'. Craig era is the Craig era as far as I'm concerned.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    if you're in your fifties or sixties, as us Originals are, every 4 years does not give you too many more Bond films to look forward to.

    Yes!!!

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    doubleoego wrote: »
    I'm 31. I don't want to only get 2 Bond films in by the time I'm 40. It's ridiculous.
    I'm turning 41 in a few weeks (same age as Sean in DAF), and I can attest the Craig era deprived me of at least one extra film during my youthful thirties. For the past three decades-counting the current one- Bond films average three films per decade as opposed to 5 or 6 in it's Cubby classic heyday. What's very depressing is the decade of the 2000s had one GREAT Bond film- CR and the only other 2 often battle for title of worst film in the series.

  • Oh, and I agree 2-3 year gap is better and also quite feasible.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My bet? Friday, November 26th, 2018 in the UK and Friday, November 9th, 2018 in the US.

    If only that were the case. Totally doable without Craig, but with his schedule, 2019 is the earliest we will get 'Bond 24.'

    My prediction: 2015.

    That's a little too close and optimistic, I'm thinking more along the lines of 2046 or 1933.
  • Reflectively I don't see at all why these films take so long to come out. To say that things have gotten longer to get done of late is unreasonable given how fast other franchises do things. The Hunger Games updated itself annually and God knows how fast and why those Marvel movies keep coming to theatres and so fast too.

    If it's because they're so expensive cut the budget, SP's budget worked against it in the end.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My bet? Friday, November 26th, 2018 in the UK and Friday, November 9th, 2018 in the US.

    If only that were the case. Totally doable without Craig, but with his schedule, 2019 is the earliest we will get 'Bond 24.'

    My prediction: 2015.

    That's a little too close and optimistic, I'm thinking more along the lines of 2046 or 1933.

    Haha, we shall see.
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    re: whether there was any significant news after Skyfall left theaters.

    There was one key piece of news: The hiring of John Logan to write Bond 24 and Bond 25 was announced, also on an MGM earnings call, while Skyfall was still in theaters, mid-November 2012. It was part of the prepared remarks at the start of the call.

    Yes, I remember that. It was with that announcement and the comments made at the time about the homour that Logan brought to the table that suggested to me back then the direction that they ended up taking in Spectre - more humorous and in step with earlier Bonds. It was all there then, the way Spectre turned out really shouldn't have surprised anyone.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    But if Bond is so healthy and wealthy now, why not capitalize on that? Why does there seem to be an air of disinterest in getting a new one to the audiences sooner rather than later?

    I suspect, rather than disinterest, it is the increasingly convoluted mountain of red tape that one must plow through in order to make a major motion picture these days. Then too, the drama over DC's return can't be helping things.

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    Germanlady wrote: »
    I dont recall any Sp news so shortly after SF quit theaters.
    But I leave all the fun of being angry and sad and pessimistic to you. I wont participate anymore. Its depressing and in a way like listening to "I stamp my feed" kids all the time.

    My personal wish is, that DC is out and leaves all this to the next guy.

    Listening to you whinge about other people whinging is the most depressing thing to me.

  • Posts: 2,483
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    No woman would be head of say Quantum because a man would overthrow her. Let's just stick to Fleming. Yes. Woman are equal and just as intelligent as men. But in a criminal world, men are far more ruthless and quite frankly....scary. Hence, male villains.

    Get back to me once you've looked up Gertrude Lythgoe. You act like there's never been a single successful female inside the criminal underworld. Usually I have to trek through likes of the Yahoo comment section to find such close-minded nonsense.

    Pffft. As if one counter-example is dispositive.

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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My bet? Friday, November 26th, 2018 in the UK and Friday, November 9th, 2018 in the US.

    If only that were the case. Totally doable without Craig, but with his schedule, 2019 is the earliest we will get 'Bond 24.'

    My prediction: 2015.

    My predictions in 2006 they will do Casino Royale 2008 Quantum of Solace 2012 Skyfall 2015 Spectre and after that who knows maybe 2018 for the Hildebrand rarity
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    Nov 2018 is still plenty of time for Craig to do Bond 25 with all his other filming commitments.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Perilagu_Khan, my answer is irrelevant either way, because we're talking about a movie franchise, not reality. Again, reality would've left Bond dead a long, long time ago. To say that a main female villain is ridiculous in a series like this is, in itself, ridiculous.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »

    And what have your previous three posts got to do with the production timeline?
    It seemed like an attempt to re-rail the thread to me.
    :)>-

    That's it exactly. Trimming away the fat and BS.

    Regardless opinion of SP the performance and reception of the film does impact the production of B25. Grant it B25 has 22 other films backing it.

    We're right on target. The status of 25 based on studio and distribution is spot on. And the only news we got.

    Just bothers me that seems from the outside finding a new distributor is proving harder than hoped.

    i remember back when MGM was going through their bankruptcy stuff - it dragged on... and on.... and on.... to the point where it looked like nothing would get done, and we'd have to wait even longer for Bond 23 (SF)... but once the ball got rolling, things seemed to get wrapped up fairly quickly....

    we don't know what the conversations are behind closed doors... to us, it comes off like EON and MGM and just sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for the phone to ring with an offer... but the reality is, is that negations have been ongoing - and that typically means a lot of legalese to machette through... MGW might have wanted to get a new distributor by Feburary or March... but this is something that could very stretch into the summer or fall - and with Bond 25 not slated until 2018, there is no rush... EON will continue to work on the story/script with whoever they bring in - while MGM does the heavy lifting to find a new distributor, and also a good deal that works for everyone.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    No woman would be head of say Quantum because a man would overthrow her. Let's just stick to Fleming. Yes. Woman are equal and just as intelligent as men. But in a criminal world, men are far more ruthless and quite frankly....scary. Hence, male villains.

    Get back to me once you've looked up Gertrude Lythgoe. You act like there's never been a single successful female inside the criminal underworld. Usually I have to trek through likes of the Yahoo comment section to find such close-minded nonsense.

    the best comment said on this forum about who would be the head of an evil organization like Quantum - was no one...... i can't remember who came up with the idea, but it was absolutely brilliant..... Bond would in essence be chasing a ghost - they members would speak of an "overseer" type person, the majority believing one actually exists - somewhere, in a hollowed out volcano (lol).. but the reality is, is that this person doesn't exist..
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    That's ample time to you and I, though. Who knows what type of break Craig will require between 'Othello' and his television series, which will be a good 22 episodes long or so, last I saw.

    if Othello is later this year (2016)... and if the Purity TV series films next year (2017), that leaves 2018 wide open.. and Bond films have always had that early year production schedule (usually starting in January)..... so it's possible, even do-able, if that schedule holds true...

    it's just all on whether Craig wants to do that or not.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Reflectively I don't see at all why these films take so long to come out. To say that things have gotten longer to get done of late is unreasonable given how fast other franchises do things. The Hunger Games updated itself annually and God knows how fast and why those Marvel movies keep coming to theatres and so fast too.

    If it's because they're so expensive cut the budget, SP's budget worked against it in the end.

    a comment like that - one simply does not understand what it takes to get these things made...

    The Hunger Games had a source material to poach and adapt from - they didn't have to sit back and create their own story from scratch..

    Marvel movies are coming out fast - but thats also because there is a well laid plan in place, story wise, that Marvel is following... what you don't see, is that the movies coming out now, were conceived years ago - they didn't just sit down last summer and try to hash out a story for Captain America 3, that story has already been in a can for a long time.... keep in mind, Marvel right now - has a storyline plan in place that will take them through the year 2028.. so trust me, it looks like they are simply turning and burning these suckers out once a year, or once every other year - but they are not... Civil War was being worked on already before Winter Soldier had even come out..
  • edited March 2016 Posts: 1,817
    HASEROT wrote: »
    Reflectively I don't see at all why these films take so long to come out. To say that things have gotten longer to get done of late is unreasonable given how fast other franchises do things. The Hunger Games updated itself annually and God knows how fast and why those Marvel movies keep coming to theatres and so fast too.

    If it's because they're so expensive cut the budget, SP's budget worked against it in the end.

    a comment like that - one simply does not understand what it takes to get these things made...

    The Hunger Games had a source material to poach and adapt from - they didn't have to sit back and create their own story from scratch..

    Marvel movies are coming out fast - but thats also because there is a well laid plan in place, story wise, that Marvel is following... what you don't see, is that the movies coming out now, were conceived years ago - they didn't just sit down last summer and try to hash out a story for Captain America 3, that story has already been in a can for a long time.... keep in mind, Marvel right now - has a storyline plan in place that will take them through the year 2028.. so trust me, it looks like they are simply turning and burning these suckers out once a year, or once every other year - but they are not... Civil War was being worked on already before Winter Soldier had even come out..

    Yes... given how wonderfully creative and not-cliche SP was that script must have taken lots of time and ingenuity.

    But you are absolutely right so I do concede. M:I has even longer waits between installments I understand.
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    I think bond is in danger of fizzling out. It seems silly to say based on Box Office but they really need to get their act together. Even without a studio they could be writing the next one ready to go.

    Looking back the last three decades have given us one decent bond film each

    Goldeneye
    Casino royale
    Skyfall

    If the next one isn't out for 3 to 4 years that's three good films in 30 years.

    Compare this with what other franchises have achieved critically and commercially and you can see why Bond seems old fashioned. Not the character, the way they manage the filmmaking process.

    Eon now seem old school.
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    "Next James Bond: Batman v Superman's Henry Cavill has officially put in his bid for the role"
    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/next-james-bond-batman-v-supermans-henry-cavill-has-officially-put-in-his-bid-for-the-role-a6952386.html'

    He certainly looks the part.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I'd love it if Henry Cavill gets the role. But, somehow, I think it's not possible.
  • I've not watched enough of Cavill's films to be able to pass judgement on his acting ability, but I think one thing's for sure, he does definitely suit the role in regards to looks. Although I know that's only part of the full package of being Bond.
  • edited March 2016 Posts: 1,817
    "The actor has stated he would "love to do it", though he'll have to fight off competition from the likes of Tom Hiddleston, Idris Elba, and Tom Hardy"

    quote from article.


    To be honest I would hate it if any of them got the role...

    Aidan Turner save us please!
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    Murdock wrote: »
    This thread in a nutshell.
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    =)) love it!
    suavejmf wrote: »
    My personal wish is Craig to stay for 2 more films.

    I do think unless they are done back to back? Hopefully DC will do the 5th film and Eon's 25th but then he will hang up his shoulder holster.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    My bet? Friday, November 26th, 2018 in the UK and Friday, November 9th, 2018 in the US.

    If only that were the case. Totally doable without Craig, but with his schedule, 2019 is the earliest we will get 'Bond 24.'

    I still think 2018 is the next time we will see Bond. They say early planning stages for Bond 25 are about to begin if not have already done so? As for being being a part of the creative process? If their is a wealth of material already fleshed out possibility wise? Then DC and Directer, producers, writers .....etc. Can then thrash things out as DC would have rested and done other things as we know.
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