No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • RC7RC7
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    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
  • EndCredit007EndCredit007 EGYPT
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    the next news would be that Daniel Craig will direct B25 himself
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    Where's Yarborough when we need him? Come to think of it, what the bloody hell happened to Yarborough?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited September 2018 Posts: 10,401
    @PanchitoPistoles If you continue your provocative behaviour for the sake of rattling members, then you risk an official warning.
    RC7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
    You pretty much signed up for that when you joined the forum.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,432
    jake24 wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles If you continue your provocative behaviour for the sake of rattling members, then you risk an official warning.
    RC7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
    You pretty much signed up for that when you joined the forum.

    Happy for you to ban me.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,401
    RC7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles If you continue your provocative behaviour for the sake of rattling members, then you risk an official warning.
    RC7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
    You pretty much signed up for that when you joined the forum.

    Happy for you to ban me.
    Don't be dramatic.
  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
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    I agree with @jake24 @PanchitoPistoles behavior and excessive negativity is really making me not enjoy this thread
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,432
    jake24 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles If you continue your provocative behaviour for the sake of rattling members, then you risk an official warning.
    RC7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
    You pretty much signed up for that when you joined the forum.

    Happy for you to ban me.
    Don't be dramatic.

    Just giving you the option, if there’s some sort of problem.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    RC7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles If you continue your provocative behaviour for the sake of rattling members, then you risk an official warning.
    RC7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
    You pretty much signed up for that when you joined the forum.

    Happy for you to ban me.
    Don't be dramatic.

    Just giving you the option, if there’s some sort of problem.
    Be civil and mature, follow proper forum etiquette and there won't be.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Salvation is near

    FF2uBFZ.jpg

    You don't give Christopher Nolan fans a good image posting that.
  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2018 Posts: 10,432
    jake24 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    @PanchitoPistoles If you continue your provocative behaviour for the sake of rattling members, then you risk an official warning.
    RC7 wrote: »
    octofinger wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    SonofSean wrote: »
    So....back to Purvis & Wade. Quelle surprise! I think we now know why Danny Boyle was fired. He had (shock! Horror!) an original idea!! I have low (probably zero) expectations now for Craig's final outing. Heck. Maybe Babs can persuade Madonna to return for the next Bond song to really put the final nail into the coffin! But what did we expect? EON are far too controlling and risk adverse. Sigh. Right. Gonna binge on Amazon's Jack Ryan and banish Bond from my mind.

    Don’t forget to pick your dummy up on the way out.

    I thought we were all newly committed to being civil and mature in this thread, RC.

    I don’t recall signing up for that. Only saying what I would IRL.
    You pretty much signed up for that when you joined the forum.

    Happy for you to ban me.
    Don't be dramatic.

    Just giving you the option, if there’s some sort of problem.
    Be civil and mature, follow proper forum etiquette and there won't be.

    So I obviously haven’t been thus far, no problems then.
  • DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be supris d if craig walks away next.

    This is exactly what I am most concerned about.

    Me to. I want Craig back in fifth Bond movie.
  • Marc Forster literally said in an interview he would do another bond. Give him time, give him a good editor, and he will deliver a masterpiece. I don’t see what the other option is. This bart Layton fellow has barely directed any films, I don’t see why he should get it

    Did he? Shame QoS doesn't have a better reputation. There's little news that would make me happier right now than to hear Forster is directing B25.
    I love SPECTRE being the primary antagonist organization in the Bond series, personally. But, I think it was misconducted completely in this continuity, so I'd also prefer if it sits back and does not get used until the next (soft) reboot when they have figured out the storylines for at least five consecutive films so the organization won't be shoehorned like it was in Spectre but build up nicely to it like the first few films. Same applies to the Blofeld character.

    I too would rather B25 not continue from Spectre. I'd also prefer if the next actor's tenure was made up completely of standalone adventures like Brosnan's. There is something exciting about each new film being its own original and completely self-contained adventure, start to finish. (Recurring characters like Wade, Robinson, Zukovsky—fine, no problem, but no storylines revealing that Zukovsky was actually the mastermind behind Trevelyan's whole plot in GoldenEye for instance.)

    Then SPECTRE can return for Bond number 008 and play out over a series of largely individualized adventures like in the 60s. Then back to true standalones with the next fella for variety.

    I just can't see what they might do with SPECTRE or with Waltz's Blofeld in Bond 25 that would turn things around for me there.
    peter wrote: »
    Strelik wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Wouldn't be supris d if craig walks away next.
    If the next news we hear is that Craig decides to walk, I honestly wouldn't blame him.

    Next news is probably that this whole Bond 25 debacle has caused several deaths.

    Actually, from what I'm hearing, they're skipping B25 entirely, and going straight into B26.

    Ha! That would probably be for the best at this point. ;)
    SaintMark wrote: »
    one and half away on vacation and the expected delay in release came with the expected rewrite of a script by P&W.

    What better time than a reboot, drop Craig and go with a new fellow.

    I'll gladly go on vacation again if that would make it happen.

    I'm ready for a new Bond myself, but I would actually like to see Craig get one more in and really go out on the high Brosnan was never awarded. Despite the director/script troubles, I believe everyone has a good sense of what needs to be done to make B25 one for the ages and that they are all determinedly working toward that. I don't want Spectre to be the end of Craig's tenure. I want one more classic Craig Bond to enjoy. One more to bookend the high he started with in Casino Royale.
  • Better to go P&W than to risk a one-off and pee on the legacy.

    CR and QoS are the Craig-defining films and deserve to be given that bookend which @Some_Kind_OF_Hero mentions.

    David Arnold, Geoffrey Wright, Tanner, and Marc Forster can really make a great combo as each have passionately expressed a desire to return for one more Bond, in separate interviews.

    CR and QoS are part of one story and deserve that justice.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Better to go P&W than to risk a one-off and pee on the legacy.

    CR and QoS are the Craig-defining films and deserve to be given that bookend which @Some_Kind_OF_Hero mentions.

    David Arnold, Geoffrey Wright, Tanner, and Marc Forster can really make a great combo as each have passionately expressed a desire to return for one more Bond, in separate interviews.

    CR and QoS are part of one story and deserve that justice.

    Stop getting my hopes up, that’s the dream right there^
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    So sad how we were just starting to get news back in August and now a month later we’re at a stand still & potentially looking at a delay. This production process has been long and painful.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Dr. Herbert West in Re-Animator: "Birth is always painful."
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    Better to go P&W than to risk a one-off and pee on the legacy.

    CR and QoS are the Craig-defining films and deserve to be given that bookend which @Some_Kind_OF_Hero mentions.

    David Arnold, Geoffrey Wright, Tanner, and Marc Forster can really make a great combo as each have passionately expressed a desire to return for one more Bond, in separate interviews.

    CR and QoS are part of one story and deserve that justice.

    Stop getting my hopes up, that’s the dream right there^

    I feel the same. Forster returning and a similar performance from Craig as we had in QOS is perhaps too much to hope for.

    I'd also hope the critical panning of QOS wouldn't make it impossible as I found some of it undeserved. The criticism for SP seemed to increase once the US reviews came in whereas QOS was savaged before the day of release in the UK...and yet either in spite of the bad reviews or because of them, I found it far better and enjoyable than I'd been led to expect. Contrast that with Skyfall which is indeed a good film but certainly didn't deserve the accolade of best Bond ever and I left the cinema concluding Skyfall was overrated.

    Objectively I can see why QOS is the least well received Craig film in some quarters and but subjectively it's the Craig film I enjoy watching the most. So by all means bring Forster back. Roberto Schaefer too as his cinematography is the best work on the franchise other than Deakins.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    The only criticism of QOS that I think is worthy is the editing and even that I never had a problem with. As far as I'm concerned, if the film had been about 15 minutes longer it'd be perfect. Use the time to include more scenes with Guy Haines, White, Mathis, and Fields.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Cowley wrote: »
    Objectively I can see why QOS is the least well received Craig film in some quarters and but subjectively it's the Craig film I enjoy watching the most. So by all means bring Forster back. Roberto Schaefer too as his cinematography is the best work on the franchise other than Deakins.

    I agree with you that QoS has the most rewatchability of all of Craig's films. Despite its flaws and pretensions, it does in fact move like a bullet.

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    I think Craig’s first 3 mark the best run we’ve had since Connery’s first 3. Not everyone will agree, but I love what they accomplished in those films. SP is hopefully one misstep, and Bond 25 has the chance to be much better.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Better to go P&W than to risk a one-off and pee on the legacy.

    They already did that sensationally with SP.
    CR and QoS are the Craig-defining films and deserve to be given that bookend which @Some_Kind_OF_Hero mentions.

    David Arnold, Geoffrey Wright, Tanner, and Marc Forster can really make a great combo as each have passionately expressed a desire to return for one more Bond, in separate interviews.

    CR and QoS are part of one story and deserve that justice.

    I vehemently champion this.
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    So sad how we were just starting to get news back in August and now a month later we’re at a stand still & potentially looking at a delay. This production process has been long and painful.
    You mean this discussion thread has been Long and painful. We hardly know anything About the production process.

  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2018 Posts: 10,432
    CR and QoS are the Craig-defining films.

    Not sure I can agree with this. I would think a significant portion of the audience would cite CR and/or SF as being his definitive picture/s. QoS isn’t even close in that regard.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    QOS, to me, feels more like an appendix to CR, only shorter and a lot faster.

    Campbell made two Bond films, both successful, both also completely different, tonally and stylistically, even if he brought some of the crewmembers working on GE back for CR.

    A director doesn't necessarily have to reproduce his "first" Bond film when he makes another one several entries later. So in that respect, I'm sure that if Forster were allowed to do B25, he might very well consider going a different way with it. Besides, it's not like he'd have complete reign over this project anyway.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    Yeah, I doubt EON are thinking about bringing back Forster. Until SP, QoS was the definite black sheep of the tenure. The general audience has not warmed to that entry like some core fans have.


    I remember about December January time I expressed my worry about the lack of news, and the common response seemed to be that EON had much going on behind the scenes, and things were far further along than we knew about. Now hear we are, nearly a year later, still no announced director or even casting rumours (besides the villain). Now Craig is working on another project in the months leading up to B25 start date. This is someone who has made five films in the last five years, suddenly he is doing two in the next 10 months? Just seems strange, considering he is a co-producer of Bond, and knows by now how much effort and focus these things take.


    I do think it's possible that EON saw Fallout and realised that what they were preparing just wouldn't compete on an action front. This is what makes me think they threw out his script altogether and went back to the P+W treatment. Only question now is can they find a director willing to wrap up the Craig era, work from a incomplete script and against a tight deadline? It will be an fascinating couple of weeks.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    edited September 2018 Posts: 684
    Remington wrote: »
    The only criticism of QOS that I think is worthy is the editing and even that I never had a problem with. As far as I'm concerned, if the film had been about 15 minutes longer it'd be perfect. Use the time to include more scenes with Guy Haines, White, Mathis, and Fields.
    Totally agree with this, only adding extended view of the locations. The atmosphere of the Greene Planet party could have lasted a bit longer for example.

    The defining films of the Craig era will be CR and SF but for me QoS is in the same league. Craig‘s first 3 are all awesome, imho. I really only mind the editing of QoS.
  • edited September 2018 Posts: 4,619
    @Mendes4Lyfe I agree with everything you wrote except that M:I 6 scared them. The theory that Mission Impossible 6 made them reconsider things is probably the most insane theory in the history of this thread. The movie made less money than Spectre and FAR less money than Skyfall! And if you say that the Bourne movies made them reconsider things after DAD, even though they made less money than DAD, my answer is that the Bourne movies changed the action genre in a way M:I 6 never will, as M:I 6 is a very old school action movie.
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    EON is in a right mess! Reports of a new script? Purvis and Wade re hired? Things ain't looking good for the future of Bond. I thought mgw and BB need to hand over the reigns to fresh producing blood. The situation is a bit like what's going on at Manchester United at present. A great institution being severely MI's managed by the owners.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    @Mendes4Lyfe I agree with everything you wrote except that M:I 6 scared them. The theory that Mission Impossible 6 made them reconsider things is probably the most insane theory in the history of this thread. The movie made less money than Spectre and FAR less money than Skyfall!

    The Bourne Identity made half as much as Die Another Day, and they came out the same year. EON still took notice.
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