Things you're tired of seeing in movies.

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    CGI

    Woody Allen

    The lack of directors of diverse backgrounds.

    Lack of fresh ideas (see above for remakes/reboots)

    The thought that you just paid so much money for movie ticket prices only to be disappointed halfway through that this isn't such a great movie (for most flicks that come out, not all).

    The fact that the same actor could have been replaced by someone with lesser pay demands/diva-ness or sometimes no acting experience like the pirate actor from Captain Phillips could have pulled off the same thing.

    The use of so many voice actors by people who already make lots of money who take jobs away from dedicated people who master the skill of voice artistry. It's just animation and it needs a voice. If you want to make it marketable, make a good movie that could be marketed with graphics, trailers, commercials, and a good word of mouth potential and then you have a franchise that people can follow.

    There is not a single wrong letter in this post!

    +1.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 21,297
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Matt_Helm wrote: »
    CGI

    Woody Allen

    The lack of directors of diverse backgrounds.

    Lack of fresh ideas (see above for remakes/reboots)

    The thought that you just paid so much money for movie ticket prices only to be disappointed halfway through that this isn't such a great movie (for most flicks that come out, not all).

    The fact that the same actor could have been replaced by someone with lesser pay demands/diva-ness or sometimes no acting experience like the pirate actor from Captain Phillips could have pulled off the same thing.

    The use of so many voice actors by people who already make lots of money who take jobs away from dedicated people who master the skill of voice artistry. It's just animation and it needs a voice. If you want to make it marketable, make a good movie that could be marketed with graphics, trailers, commercials, and a good word of mouth potential and then you have a franchise that people can follow.

    There is not a single wrong letter in this post!

    +1.

    I'm not sure I agree with all of this, @suavejmf.

    1) Woody Allen films are an acquired taste but the man still puts out interesting material IMO.

    2) Concerning the lack of fresh ideas, that's entirely our fault. We say we want to cover new ground yet we often shy away from it and pick safe films in the theatre instead. Tons of brilliant filmmakers out there with great projects on a shelf never find any work because no one wants to fund them because we rarely dig up money to see their films. IT (2017), the sum total of nothing but been-there-done-thats makes 700 million against a 35 million budged because we're conditioned to pick the prophesied blockbuster rather than the underdog showing in mostly empty rooms for a few nights before ending up in Nowhere. We're also afraid that it won't be good as, indeed, it mostly isn't. But the occasional gem also eludes us that way and people with a great albeit unconventional idea don't even try to get it made anymore. If "alternative cinema" became the new hipster thing, cinema output might change. But throughout history, we have rarely shown the capacity to open our minds for new things. We're creatures of habit, and that's reflected in our film choices too.

    3) Voice actors, yes, although there are a few, like John DiMaggio and Kevin Conroy, who do make a career out of voice acting. I agree that half the Pixar / Dreamworks / Disney animation films are filled with "branded" names, cool and hip actors and actresses you might otherwise not cast, although some of them do well. MOANA, for example, greatly benefited from Dwayne The Rock Johnson. In some cases, a famous actor can be the best voice for the part. So what if Luke Skywalker became the Joker; I have yet to hear anyone else do it quite like him. And sometimes "that voice" we all know so well simply is the one that fits the filmmaker's intentions. So while I'm with you that it shouldn't be mandatory to squeeze out the Hollywood orange during the voice casting sessions of an animated film, I'm not against a good voice when it really works, nor am I so ignorant as to assume that the name certainly isn't a marketing tool... ;-)

    4) CGI... ah well. CGI has evolved tremendously since DAD. I will concede though that bad CGI is still worse than the oldest and most rudimentary practical effect in the book, but bad CGI has become, at least in my opinion, less common. ROGUE ONE did the thing with Cushing and Fisher that I know upsets a lot of people, but by the same token, the space battles are spotless, "real", sensational. The actual real thing still is better, of course, like Craig's great stunt work in CASINO ROYALE, e.g. when he actually is running up a crane and fighting on top of one; my audiences were holding their breaths. They did that in 2002 too but it was more like one of those "really? they expect us to like this?" kind of moments when Pierce was doing the ice surfing. Still, a little CGI can go a long way; even in animation, when done well (e.g. by Japanese animators) CGI can serve a purpose. Again, bad CGI: no. Good CGI... well, let's just say that over the years I have grown into it.
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 11,175
    Watching The Importance of Being Earnest the other day I'm throwing in one:
    -Americans attempting an English accent.


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    @DarthDimi regarding Mark Hamill he is a special kind of famous actor, known for one role only. Otherwise he's not a big star. So his transition into voice acting was seemless and given the change of medium far less distracting.

    My controversial opinion: Hamill is a far better voice actor than actor and truly strived as a voice acting.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger we are in this together
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    The comic sidekick that isn t funny, but just there for the sake of it.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Riding a white swan to Matera
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    Double-taking pigeons. It is just so overdone these days. ;)

    And Woody Allen can rot in hell (truly).
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited January 2018 Posts: 17,283
    Human beings able to take punishment that should KILL them. I blame Die Hard.... that movie pushed it SO far, yet maintained a sort of ridiculous believably right on the edge of insanity... and then American movies felt free to try to push even farther.
    So please, unless the main character isn't from Earth, or has been bitten by a radioactive spider, do understand the actual effects of impact trauma in future... ;)
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    The first Die Hard sort of worked. The sequels not at all.
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    It's a little thing, but I see it all the time and I can't shake it, just saw a case of it again last night.

    When characters get coffee you can always tell there's no liquid in the carryout cups because as actors they have to emote, moving their hands all over the place when it would spill the coffee everywhere. Either that or they are down to their last sip.
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 4,525
    Lazy "Event movies" that end up sacrificing mid budget movies

    @BT3366 re cups, it's not a little thing, it's a big thing. Its remarkable they do things and just insults us movie fans

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    Always good to know I'm not alone in noticing those little things. Thanks for sharing.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    It's a little thing, but I see it all the time and I can't shake it, just saw a case of it again last night.

    When characters get coffee you can always tell there's no liquid in the carryout cups because as actors they have to emote, moving their hands all over the place when it would spill the coffee everywhere. Either that or they are down to their last sip.

    That always bugs me, too. It's the same thing when a character is carrying something that is stacked, i.e. a tray with several items atop it. The tray will sway left and right while the objects atop it are obviously glued on and unmoving.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    BT3366 wrote: »
    It's a little thing, but I see it all the time and I can't shake it, just saw a case of it again last night.

    When characters get coffee you can always tell there's no liquid in the carryout cups because as actors they have to emote, moving their hands all over the place when it would spill the coffee everywhere. Either that or they are down to their last sip.

    That always bugs me, too. It's the same thing when a character is carrying something that is stacked, i.e. a tray with several items atop it. The tray will sway left and right while the objects atop it are obviously glued on and unmoving.

    Never thought about these things before, really. With the coffee cups, it's such a common item to carry in film/tv, that I hardly ever look directly at it.
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    Anything that can take you out of a movie is a big thing. I would like to thnk that a good director would never get caught out.
  • KaijuDirectorOO7KaijuDirectorOO7 Once Upon a Time Somewhere...
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    Villains being idiots. ("Oh no, let's assume our death traps will work this time!")
    The dead not staying dead ("Let's kill this guy to make money! Then we bring him back cos money!")
  • patb wrote: »
    Anything that can take you out of a movie is a big thing. I would like to thnk that a good director would never get caught out.

    The very reason why noticeably fake CGI in live-action cinema is such a massive peeve of mine.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited January 2018 Posts: 15,423
    "Dark" nature and "gritty realism".

    The hero having a personal connection with the villain.

    The hero having a traumatic past so the film sets up his vengeful journey with inconsolable rage.

    Shaky Camera cinematography.

    Hans Zimmer style incidental sounds and echoes they label as "soundtracks".

    Remakes and more ardently the Reboots.

    Miscast actors that "try to break their own image".

    Piece meant for pure entertainment injecting political statements.

    Political correctness (i.e. feminism).

    Trying to be Oscar-worthy wannabes.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    "Dark" nature and "gritty realism".

    The hero having a personal connection with the villain.

    The hero having a traumatic past so the film sets up his vengeful journey with inconsolable rage.

    Shaky Camera cinematography.

    Hans Zimmer style incidental sounds and echoes they label as "soundtracks".

    Remakes and more ardently the Reboots.

    Miscast actors that "try to break their own image".

    Piece meant for pure entertainment injecting political statements.

    Political correctness (i.e. feminism).

    Trying to be Oscar-worthy wannabes.

    +1
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Better make that +2
  • mattjoesmattjoes Mitchell
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    Films leaving the title and/or credits for the end.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Films leaving the title and/or credits for the end.

    That is so annoying, your waiting for the titles so you can settle into the film…and the f––krs aren't there! A trend started, I do believe with Coppola and Apocalypse Now, although I have to say that it doesn't really bother me on that particular film.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger we are in this together
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Films leaving the title and/or credits for the end.

    That is so annoying, your waiting for the titles so you can settle into the film…and the f––krs aren't there! A trend started, I do believe with Coppola and Apocalypse Now, although I have to say that it doesn't really bother me on that particular film.

    It has escalated in recent years.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Mitchell
    edited January 2018 Posts: 5,760
    Yes, and placing them at the end often results in a wasted opportunity, since at the beginning, they can strongly set the mood for the story to come, through both visuals and music. Often it's not worth putting them at the end for an attempt at creating a more presumably 'immersive', 'natural' beginning.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    edited January 2018 Posts: 2,998
    Movies that think making a character realistic/relatable (especially any sort of action hero) means making them an emotionally damaged dick. Can't main characters be in a good mood anymore?
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    Americans playing Brits.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Movies that think making a character realistic/relatable (especially any sort of action hero) means making them an emotionally damaged dick. Can't main characters be in a good mood anymore?
    +1
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited January 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Movies that think making a character realistic/relatable (especially any sort of action hero) means making them an emotionally damaged dick. Can't main characters be in a good mood anymore?
    I recommend Thor Ragnarok to soothe the understandable disappointment with this trend. It could mark a potential return to a less angst driven hero universe. Or at least I hope.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Marijuana jokes in every comedy, and a stoner thrown in for the sake's of having a pot joke. Seriously, when we legalize it, it wouldn't be funny anymore.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger we are in this together
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    Hookers always being dragged into police stations.
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    Superhero movies. Seriously can we get a break?
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