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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    M_Balje wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Hopefully we get some surprises next year. The predictability of this has me bored at present. Same names recycled over and over. Perhaps there's one we haven't considered and whose name hasn't leaked in the wings.

    I see Eon wil possible go for somebody like Daniel Espinosa (Child 44, Safe House), Brian Percivalor, Vicente Amorim too. Steven Knight as possible 3th writer or mabey even i see happend there hire Steven Knight as directer.








    I think it is possible to make another Goldeneye with Daniel Espinosa. Safe House is also closer to CR and QOS. I think that both CR and Spectre already should have got R - rated (16+). There should find a balance for Skyfall and TDK haters and doubt about violence of CR like my self and the lovers.
    I haven't heard of any of those films (or the directors) but they all look quite interesting, especially the first one with Hardy (nice accent) and Oldman. There's an intense, personal and gritty flavour to them which is more in keeping with the direction I assumed they were going to go when Demange & Mackenzie were being mentioned last summer.
  • Posts: 12,231
    It would be so nice to wake up tomorrow, log onto MI6 and see something official announced?!! Or a statement of some kind stating that their will be some sort of press release on a certain date later in the month?!! Pipe dream I know!!!
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    The older I get the more I don’t mind the rumor period as well eventually there will be no more hopefully not in my life time of course but still...
  • edited December 2017 Posts: 5,767
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    Lol maybe as a Bond girl. In like 5 years. Wasn't there a rumor about eight years back that Kim Kardashian wanted to be a Bond girl. Jesus.
    Wait for Kanye!
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    That isn't Kanye, somehow possibly proving a point.

    That's P. Diddy. I'm sure he'd be game to take over from DC.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    antovolk wrote: »
    sorry but do we really want to watch a woman spy shag a bunch of random guys? Wouldn’t work.

    you might want to check out Red Sparrow when that comes out in March.

    Between that (which I hope will turn into a franchise as the 2nd book is fantastic), Rhythm Section (as we all know also an EON production) and Atomic Blonde, yes the industry is putting original (be it truly original or ones originally women in their respective mediums - in this case novels/comics) female spy characters on screen.

    But the reason why the call for a female Bond is still there is the same for female versions of Ghostbusters, Ocean's Trilogy and others - they're all huge global brands.

    And saying 'oh but why don't you make a male Wonder Woman then' also doesn't work because it's a false equivalency, that's completely forgetting the power balance between genders...

    There’s a difference between a woman spy and a female James Bond. I have no interest in watching Atomic Blonde or any other female led spy film. I turned off ghostbusters during the first ten minutes. It was god awful!

    Lately I have been watching a lot of old school films or movies I hadn’t seen before. It’s been awhile since a decent movie has been made without all the bs CGI. It’s kinda the same for action and horror.. 80s-90s horror is better than any horror I have seen today.

    I’d rather re watch some Connery Bond films vs any recent action film released.

    It’s kinda sad.

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    bondjames wrote: »

    At the end of the day however these female driven spy flicks will have to appeal to men too in order to resonate. So somewhat ironically I believe that the films will have to abide to some extent by the same rules and genre stereotypes which drive Bond. The very rules which upset some people.

    I mean....not necessarily. Just look how wide release films strongly targeted towards females and marginalised communities have broken out (think Girls Trip, think 50 Shades)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2017 Posts: 23,883
    antovolk wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »

    At the end of the day however these female driven spy flicks will have to appeal to men too in order to resonate. So somewhat ironically I believe that the films will have to abide to some extent by the same rules and genre stereotypes which drive Bond. The very rules which upset some people.

    I mean....not necessarily. Just look how wide release films strongly targeted towards females and marginalised communities have broken out (think Girls Trip, think 50 Shades)
    Yes, you're correct in that respect - not necessarily. Having said that, I've not seen either of these films and don't have any interest to. I can't imagine I'm alone in this forum. Presumably they deal with things from a female or minority perspective. Additionally, these aren't in the spy or thriller genre. I'd be curious to see if a female or minority driven film in the spy genre could achieve similar resonance. From what I understand, Atomic Blonde wasn't a huge success.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 5,966
    Idris Elba, has been the subject of a tremendous amount of tabloid speculation (fiction) pegging him as the next Bond. I’m strongly against this but would love to see this talented, charismatic actor in a quality spy film as an original character.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    So would I. Elba in his own entry would be compelling. He did The Take a few years back and I quite enjoyed that. A minority in a thriller can work.

    However is the public ready to provide the big $$ for a female driven spy film or even a minority female driven spy film? We shall find out soon enough, as Proud Mary and Red Sparrow drop in 2018.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,499
    I actually just saw someone suggest “Gigi Hadid to play James Bond!”

    Seriously?!?? I hate tabloids.

    Lol maybe as a Bond girl. In like 5 years.
    antovolk wrote: »
    sorry but do we really want to watch a woman spy shag a bunch of random guys? Wouldn’t work.

    you might want to check out Red Sparrow when that comes out in March.

    Between that (which I hope will turn into a franchise as the 2nd book is fantastic), Rhythm Section (as we all know also an EON production) and Atomic Blonde, yes the industry is putting original (be it truly original or ones originally women in their respective mediums - in this case novels/comics) female spy characters on screen.

    But the reason why the call for a female Bond is still there is the same for female versions of Ghostbusters, Ocean's Trilogy and others - they're all huge global brands.

    And saying 'oh but why don't you make a male Wonder Woman then' also doesn't work because it's a false equivalency, that's completely forgetting the power balance between genders...

    There’s a difference between a woman spy and a female James Bond. I have no interest in watching Atomic Blonde or any other female led spy film. I turned off ghostbusters during the first ten minutes. It was god awful!

    Lately I have been watching a lot of old school films or movies I hadn’t seen before. It’s been awhile since a decent movie has been made without all the bs CGI. It’s kinda the same for action and horror.. 80s-90s horror is better than any horror I have seen today.

    I’d rather re watch some Connery Bond films vs any recent action film released.

    It’s kinda sad.

    Totally agree on all of this.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,699
    Elba as a transgender Bond girl confirmed
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,165
    Elba as a transgender Bond girl confirmed

    But only if he's in a weelchair, otherwise i'm out.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    Posts: 16,036
    00Agent wrote: »
    Elba as a transgender Bond girl confirmed

    But only if he's in a weelchair, otherwise i'm out.

    How about a peg leg machine gun? :))
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Laser beam machine attached to his head, perhaps?
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    Posts: 16,036
    We don't go for that sort of thing anymore. In the days of gritty realism and the edgy emo protagonist. =))
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited January 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Grow Up, Double Waah Seven! =))

    ...or is it Waah Waah Seven?
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    antovolk wrote: »
    sorry but do we really want to watch a woman spy shag a bunch of random guys? Wouldn’t work.

    you might want to check out Red Sparrow when that comes out in March.

    Between that (which I hope will turn into a franchise as the 2nd book is fantastic), Rhythm Section (as we all know also an EON production) and Atomic Blonde, yes the industry is putting original (be it truly original or ones originally women in their respective mediums - in this case novels/comics) female spy characters on screen.

    But the reason why the call for a female Bond is still there is the same for female versions of Ghostbusters, Ocean's Trilogy and others - they're all huge global brands.

    And saying 'oh but why don't you make a male Wonder Woman then' also doesn't work because it's a false equivalency, that's completely forgetting the power balance between genders...

    There’s a difference between a woman spy and a female James Bond. I have no interest in watching Atomic Blonde or any other female led spy film. I turned off ghostbusters during the first ten minutes. It was god awful!

    Lately I have been watching a lot of old school films or movies I hadn’t seen before. It’s been awhile since a decent movie has been made without all the bs CGI. It’s kinda the same for action and horror.. 80s-90s horror is better than any horror I have seen today.

    I’d rather re watch some Connery Bond films vs any recent action film released.

    It’s kinda sad.

    CGI is amazing. People unnecessarily hate on it, but I don't see how it's so bad. CGI, when done right, is amazing.
    There are great films coming out today. Rose tinted glasses.
    Also, Atomic Blonde was good. Ghostbusters was bad.


  • Well, at least we can finally say there will be a Bond film next year...(just as long as its not put back)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    phibes72 wrote: »
    Well, at least we can finally say there will be a Bond film next year...(just as long as its not put back)
    I was going to say. One can never be too sure, because the release date as it stands puts it squarely in harm's way.
  • Posts: 12,231
    Well? No news then! I knew it! aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Lol!
  • Posts: 10,367
    I predict February will contain the next big news.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    edited January 2018 Posts: 3,170
    Thinking we will get some production news in the spring, with a director and some shooting location rumors by June. The 2nd half of 2018 will be rumors of secondary cast, Felix/Blofeld/Hinx possible returning etc. Maybe some further location and title rumors at this point. And Nov/Dec EON will hold their traditional press conference revealing the title and main cast with shooting beginning Dec/Jan.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 4,391
    Why does everyone think Hinx is alive?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 34,598
    antovolk wrote: »
    sorry but do we really want to watch a woman spy shag a bunch of random guys? Wouldn’t work.

    you might want to check out Red Sparrow when that comes out in March.

    Between that (which I hope will turn into a franchise as the 2nd book is fantastic), Rhythm Section (as we all know also an EON production) and Atomic Blonde, yes the industry is putting original (be it truly original or ones originally women in their respective mediums - in this case novels/comics) female spy characters on screen.

    But the reason why the call for a female Bond is still there is the same for female versions of Ghostbusters, Ocean's Trilogy and others - they're all huge global brands.

    And saying 'oh but why don't you make a male Wonder Woman then' also doesn't work because it's a false equivalency, that's completely forgetting the power balance between genders...

    There’s a difference between a woman spy and a female James Bond. I have no interest in watching Atomic Blonde or any other female led spy film. I turned off ghostbusters during the first ten minutes. It was god awful!

    Lately I have been watching a lot of old school films or movies I hadn’t seen before. It’s been awhile since a decent movie has been made without all the bs CGI. It’s kinda the same for action and horror.. 80s-90s horror is better than any horror I have seen today.

    I’d rather re watch some Connery Bond films vs any recent action film released.

    It’s kinda sad.

    CGI is amazing. People unnecessarily hate on it, but I don't see how it's so bad. CGI, when done right, is amazing.
    There are great films coming out today. Rose tinted glasses.
    Also, Atomic Blonde was good. Ghostbusters was bad.


    Bad CGI is my problem - I tend to complain about CGI without clarifying I mean the bad/obvious CGI, but hell, most movies these days inject some CGI that they didn't spend enough time fine tuning. When it rears its ugly head in the action scenes, I become so detached to anything unfolding.

    Of course nobody has an issue with CGI that isn't noticeable, like artificially enlarging crowd sizes, backgrounds, landscapes, cityscapes, etc.

    Just take Bond these days: the MI6 explosion in SF was incredibly well done. It's only obviously fake in the fact that they weren't going to blow the real building up. The effects themselves were well done.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 5,966
    echo wrote: »
    Why does everyone think Hinx is alive?

    I think the possibility exist because we didn't see a dead body.
    Yes, being yanked out of a train by a rope tied around your neck and throat would kill most people, but Hinx is a Bond villain so all bets are off concerning his death being a certainty

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 34,598
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Why does everyone think Hinx is alive?

    I think the possibility exist because we didn't see a dead body.
    Yes, being yanked out of a train by a rope tied around your neck and throat would kill most people, but Hinx is a Bond villain so all bets are off concerning his death being a certainty

    It's tough to rule anyone's survivability out after Bond got shot twice and fell hundreds of feet, landing headfirst in water.

    Hell, maybe Dario will return in B25, bandaged together in a million tiny pieces.
  • echo wrote: »
    Why does everyone think Hinx is alive?

    Wishful thinking/hoping it leads to semi-adaptation of You Only Live Twice novel/feeling it might make Bond 25 more interesting.
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    I hope Hinx didn't make it... Let's move on and get back to the more grounded battles Craig has had (his first and second kill in CR; Dimitrios, Carlos, stairwell fight, Mitchell, Slade, Patrice x 2, Silva's thugs, even Sciarra, and assassinating SPECTRE's thugs to save Donna Lucia). They're more exciting than trying to create the magic of the past SUPER-HENCHMAN (Odd Job and Jaws (13 years apart)).

    DC's Bond is more comfortable fighting the realistic psychopaths-- come up with a modern-day Red Grant, for example...
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    Posts: 16,036
    I hope he does come back. He was the only villain who Craig's Bond couldn't easily defeat.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Murdock wrote: »
    I hope he does come back. He was the only villain who Craig's Bond couldn't easily defeat.
    My thoughts exactly, Captain!
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