No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I wonder if Craig's peeved he didn't get even a whiff of an Oscar over the years, despite all the efforts at 'reforming' & 'reinventing' Bond.

    Adele and Smith (shockingly imho) did, but sadly the crew in front of the camera have been ignored. The closest has been a few BAFTAs (Babs is now VP for Film at BAFTA btw).
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    Here's a prediction for you: no 'in front of the camera' crew on any Bond film will get an Oscar nod, ever.

    That's not how the Academy rolls.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I still say we're lucky if we get Craig back for one let alone two. But a lot of sources are running with this report it seems.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Ah yes, Swan's strong independent woman saved Bond with his own explosive watch. Thanks for reminding me @FoxRox. But as you quite rightly pointed out, it was Bond that had to save her sorry independent ass from getting blown up at the very end. The French actress also had this to say about her multilayered character: “I think she is distinct from all the others. She’s not really a Bond girl – she’s a real character,” said one of the most bland actresses to ever grace a recent Bond movie in living memory. She's got a nerve, I'll give her that much, and she's clearly never watched a Bond picture otherwise she'd never made such an asinine remark. Just how can anyone warm to an actress that hasn't even bothered to do her homework? Beats me, but I'm sure there'll be some here on the forums that think she's everything that she says she is and defend her.

    On a serious note, I really wished that Broccoli and co had the cojones to move on without Craig, especially as he's not too concerned about reprising his role unless he's given an incredibly long sabbatical to recharge his creative juices. It kind of reminds me of the late Roger Moore years when Cubby was too scared to replace Moore for fear of poor BO results. But at least with RM he didn't dictate to Eon when the next movie should be made, he quickly signed on and got the ball moving swiftly. The same cannot be said of the current star.

    Amazing post.

    ---

    As for Craig's two picture thing, I honestly can't imagine anything more anticlimactic than to have had all that speculation about the next Bond, all of this secrecy, mind making up debacle only to have Craig say oh yeah it was all a load of bollocks I'm actually back.

    I'd take that over him deciding for two years, just to bail on the position.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    @peter absolutely! I'd be ecstatic if he comes back for two. Man what a treat that would be, and a nice surprise!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    @peter absolutely! I'd be ecstatic if he comes back for two. Man what a treat that would be, and a nice surprise!
    Hardly a surprise though. It's been rumoured since 2016, on and off (the two picture deal that is).
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    I wonder if he does 2 more films,he might be tempted to equal Sir Roger's 7 films.
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    Wasn't it MGW who said they wanted him to do 7?
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 684
    peter wrote: »
    IF this two pic deal is real, I think it's Bab's way of being highly unimpressed with potential candidates-- after all, she is a savvy businesswoman. I honestly have to believe if there genuinely was an heir apparent, she would have pulled the trigger (no matter how she feels about DC).
    @peter While I do think Barbara loves Craig and the work he's done, I would speculatively agree with this. The four year gap might turn out to be less Barbara's waiting on Craig out of an insistence on/love for his Bond and more of a means towards lowering her risk (which becomes especially important if she is planning to sell).
  • Getafix wrote: »
    Wasn't it MGW who said they wanted him to do 7?

    Actually, eight. He said he hoped Craig would beat Moore's record for number of films.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Wasn't it MGW who said they wanted him to do 7?

    Actually, eight. He said he hoped Craig would beat Moore's record for number of films.

    That definitely won't happen. So wait, this two-picture deal left for Craig, is it merely a rumor or something all but confirmed at this point? Would it shoot back-to-back or no clue?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Wasn't it MGW who said they wanted him to do 7?

    Actually, eight. He said he hoped Craig would beat Moore's record for number of films.

    That definitely won't happen. So wait, this two-picture deal left for Craig, is it merely a rumor or something all but confirmed at this point? Would it shoot back-to-back or no clue?
    Merely a rumor.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    @QuantumOrganization any thoughts on two from Craig?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Fatal car accident.
    Comes out as gay.
    Revealed as already married or engaged.
    Head injury and resultant coma or amnesia.
    Unstated irreconcilable differences.
    Desires an open relationship James can't support.
    Her cats can't take living with Bond (or the reverse).
    Stricture of inheritance clauses preclude the relationship.
    Many reasons Madeleine might not return, all could happen off-screen.
    So we wait.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    I honestly don't think EON care. Neither does Craig. They tend to do what they what when they want. I know others hate that, I don't particularly mind it. If Bond himself was being crowed at for answers I'm pretty sure he'd act in much the same way, 'You'll have them when I'm ready. In the meantime, go **** yourself'. Because behind the scenes they know exactly what's happening.

    What? SP production was a rushed mess. QoS production was a rushed mess. TND production was a rushed mess. DAD and TWINE are considered two lesser Bond films by most fans. The only other films produced by Barbara and Michael went through 4 years of gestation. I have no idea why you continue to come out to bat for EON, as if each film is a grand vision that they have planned to the last detail, until something inevitably out of their hands mucks it up. Can't catch a break these lot, eh? Best laid plans and all that. Fate isn't half cruel to this bunch of world class professionals.

    Where exactly do I state each film is a grand vision? What I say is that they know exactly what's happening. The 'what's happening' bit may be good or bad. In fact it's likely an equal amount of both.

    The key point I'm making is that you, me, or anyone else aren't entitled to know their business dealings. If they don't want to elaborate, then good for them. I really don't care.

    This is less about me batting for EON, more about me understanding the absolute nightmare task of getting something like this out of the blocks and onto a screen. Believe it or not, mate, they don't give two f**** what you make of their abilities, or lack of. Quit your waffle and your insistence on making something out of sweet FA.

    I love your Moonraker poster above your fireplace :-). You're a cosy, yet entirely realistic man @RC7 :-)
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    This just in from the Evening Standard :

    Daniel Craig ‘signs up for two more James Bond films’ after being persuaded to return to franchise .

    Daniel Craig has reportedly signed a contract to star in two more James Bond films after being persuaded by producers.

    Despite being on the verge of quitting the franchise following the release of Spectre, the British actor is now expected to appear in two further 007 movies.

    According to reports, Barbara Broccoli has been in negotiations with Craig to up his total to six films, including 2019’s recently announced Bond 25.

    “There was plenty of talk about who would be the next Bond but Barbara has managed to talk Daniel into two more films,” a source told The Sun.

    “He is loved by audiences around the world and has driven a real resurgence for the movies at the box office, so bosses knew they couldn’t lose him just yet.”

    Reports suggest that one of the reasons behind Craig’s U-turn is the fact that Sam Mendes stepped down as director after Spectre.

    “Daniel and Sam were best buddies when they first started working together and you would constantly see them laughing and joking,” said the insider.

    “But after filming had been going on for a while, things started to change. There were a few areas in which they had very different creative opinions and their friendship did become strained.”

    The studio recently announced that the 25th Bond film will hit cinemas on November 8 2019, although the cast and director are yet to be officially revealed.

    "James Bond will return to US cinemas on November 8, 2019 with a traditional earlier release in the UK and the rest of the world,” read a tweet posted to the franchise’s official account.

    Studio bosses went on to say that international release dates and a cast list would be announced “at a later date”.

    There's the same story in the Daily Mail...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4766458/Daniel-Craig-signs-TWO-James-Bond-movies.html

    Didn't take much notice to be honest....
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Her cats can't take living with Bond (or the reverse).


    Tanner: "So, it didn't work out with Dr. Swann?"
    Bond: "No. Her pussies didn't like me."

  • Getafix wrote: »
    The stuff about Craig only agreeing to come back after Mendes left the scene is obviously garbage. Mendes never really wanted to come back for SP. The likelihood of him doing a third film was always close to zero.

    Is discussing the leaks still forbidden ?

    Anyway, we could read that some person A was "furious" with person B, and now no more A and B together...
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited August 2017 Posts: 7,838
    royale65 wrote: »
    Her cats can't take living with Bond (or the reverse).


    Tanner: "So, it didn't work out with Dr. Swann?"
    Bond: "No. Her pussies didn't like me."

    What if she cheats on Bond with Q?
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 11,119
    Getafix wrote: »
    The stuff about Craig only agreeing to come back after Mendes left the scene is obviously garbage. Mendes never really wanted to come back for SP. The likelihood of him doing a third film was always close to zero.

    Is discussing the leaks still forbidden ?

    Anyway, we could read that some person A was "furious" with person B, and now no more A and B together...

    OMG :-O! He's BACK! @Suivez_ce_parachute !! Now it'll get even cosier in here hehe ;-). Welcome back.
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    I had a feeling he would do two more, honestly. Once he came back for SF he seemed charged up and ready to go. 2 billion dollars later and here we are. It seems like the break of the last few years made him realize what a dream job Bond truly is and now he wants to go out in style. Of course, Babs and the rest helped convince him of this truth.

    I think they'll try to have a quick turnaround, trim down the process for him so the 2 films feel like one and half. Maybe they will cut the run time down to around 120 minutes each instead of 150+. Both SK and SP were too long, IMO. They need to go back to basics and streamline the whole thing, give us two exciting spy thrillers and not the bloated action films we've gotten lately.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    @peter absolutely! I'd be ecstatic if he comes back for two. Man what a treat that would be, and a nice surprise!
    Hardly a surprise though. It's been rumoured since 2016, on and off (the two picture deal that is).

    I still don't believe a word of it. Be at one or two!
    I'm ready to be proven wrong though about the one movie, but will not believe in the two movie theory until I have seen the movie on the screen.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Given how exhausted he seems after shooting one of these, I'd also be shocked if he signed on for another two, back-to-back or not.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    It just perplexes me what the one picture deal was all about, if Craig is back for 2 films.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I wonder if Craig's peeved he didn't get even a whiff of an Oscar over the years, despite all the efforts at 'reforming' & 'reinventing' Bond.

    Adele and Smith (shockingly imho) did, but sadly the crew in front of the camera have been ignored. The closest has been a few BAFTAs (Babs is now VP for Film at BAFTA btw).

    Craig was realistic about Oscar chances when that came up in some interview some years ago. I can't imagine he'd ever expect an Oscar nomination for Bond. (Though the Academy has changed quite radically since then, and it's impossible to predict how things will change voting-wise with the new membership now. There have already been several oh-wow nominations and wins recently, stuff one wouldn't have expected even a few years ago, and the membership changes have continued. The indicators that were used in predictions for a long time no longer work the same way.)

    I agree Smith's award success was perhaps shocking (just because I hated the song, though, not necessarily otherwise), but it's a category I mostly ignore anyway since I couldn't care less about most stuff nominated any year. Adele's song was a rare exception; I actually like that.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'd rather B25 not be a remake of OHMSS.

    I'd argue that they have been remaking OHMSS since CR, albeit in bits and pieces. In SP we got the new Draco and Tracy, as an example.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I wonder if Craig's peeved he didn't get even a whiff of an Oscar over the years, despite all the efforts at 'reforming' & 'reinventing' Bond.

    Adele and Smith (shockingly imho) did, but sadly the crew in front of the camera have been ignored. The closest has been a few BAFTAs (Babs is now VP for Film at BAFTA btw).

    Craig was realistic about Oscar chances when that came up in some interview some years ago. I can't imagine he'd ever expect an Oscar nomination for Bond. (Though the Academy has changed quite radically since then, and it's impossible to predict how things will change voting-wise with the new membership now. There have already been several oh-wow nominations and wins recently, stuff one wouldn't have expected even a few years ago, and the membership changes have continued. The indicators that were used in predictions for a long time no longer work the same way.)

    I agree Smith's award success was perhaps shocking (just because I hated the song, though, not necessarily otherwise), but it's a category I mostly ignore anyway since I couldn't care less about most stuff nominated any year. Adele's song was a rare exception; I actually like that.
    Tuulia wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I wonder if Craig's peeved he didn't get even a whiff of an Oscar over the years, despite all the efforts at 'reforming' & 'reinventing' Bond.

    Adele and Smith (shockingly imho) did, but sadly the crew in front of the camera have been ignored. The closest has been a few BAFTAs (Babs is now VP for Film at BAFTA btw).

    Craig was realistic about Oscar chances when that came up in some interview some years ago. I can't imagine he'd ever expect an Oscar nomination for Bond. (Though the Academy has changed quite radically since then, and it's impossible to predict how things will change voting-wise with the new membership now. There have already been several oh-wow nominations and wins recently, stuff one wouldn't have expected even a few years ago, and the membership changes have continued. The indicators that were used in predictions for a long time no longer work the same way.)

    I agree Smith's award success was perhaps shocking (just because I hated the song, though, not necessarily otherwise), but it's a category I mostly ignore anyway since I couldn't care less about most stuff nominated any year. Adele's song was a rare exception; I actually like that.

    The academy is so full of shit. I hate Craig as bond sometimes but I think his performance in CR could be considered Oscar worthy. There is also an amazing production team behind bond films that dont get enough recognition.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    echo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'd rather B25 not be a remake of OHMSS.

    I'd argue that they have been remaking OHMSS since CR, albeit in bits and pieces. In SP we got the new Draco and Tracy, as an example.

    True. They can't rip-off OHMSS enough in recent years.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 3,164
    Let's put this into perspective:
    sources on the 'one picture deal' = NYT
    sources on the 'Craig Back for Two' - The bloody Sun.
    So there.

    Will audiences care about Madeleine/Blofeld in B25 if they come back/if they don't? Definitely more than if you'd asked them the same about Vesper round the time of QOS - the landscape and audience expectations when it comes to continuity have changed.

    For better or worse, they started this with Quantum and SPECTRE, and now they have to carry it on as long as Craig is on board regardless of whether you like it or not.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    antovolk wrote: »
    For better or worse, they started this with Quantum and SPECTRE, and now they have to carry it on as long as Craig is on board regardless of whether you like it or not.
    That's a deeply distressing concept to contemplate, at least from my perspective.
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