No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    2018 is still possible to do - since principle photography generally doesn't start until January of the same year anyway, it would just be a full load for Craig to take on...

    Fall 2016 : Broadway "Othello" - it could be a limited engagement, or it could run a while.. but usually these things don't seem to go on for much longer than a month or two at most - unless it gets extended - but i don't think that'll happen.

    2016/2017 TBD : Lucky Logan - Steven Soderbergh film.... we aren't talking about a grand scale production here, Soderbergh is still on the indy fringe of main hollywood directors... this wont be a 6-7 month goliath shoot like SF or SP... it will probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-4... but this film is still in preproduction as far as i can gather, meaning that production probably wouldn't start until late fall / winter - perhaps even spring time of next year..

    this is the biggie..

    2017/TBD : Purity - who knows when this will shoot.. or how long it will take - and are they filming both seasons back to back... and not much is known about it, other than Daniel Craig is going to star in it - no other cast/crew have been announced - so it's likely that we are still a year off from this thing even seeing a production schedule...

    if shooting on Purity will conflict with Bond 25 shooting in early/mid 2018, but Craig does want to return for a fifth and final outing - i could very well see EON delaying until 2019... i don't believe 2018 is set in stone... they were willing to wait out Mendes - i personally feel that if they really want him back, and he says "i'll do it, but not until 2019." - then they'd wait for him.. because why hurry at this point? - what is the rush?..... but you never know, maybe a deal could get worked out to allow Craig time to film Bond 25 first, then roll into Purity shortly after - you never know, deals get worked out like that all the time, so we'll have to wait and see where the chips fall..

    but like i said, 2018 is do-able... it would just be a crazy schedule - especially since nothing is known yet about Purity's production schedule, start date - cast - crew - anything.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Yes @Bounine, check out The Night Manager. He's not playing Bond there, but rather someone more unsure of himself. However, he shows huge potential to be an excellent Bond actor in it. His High-Rise performance is excellent too, but the film itself could be a little quirky and off-beat for most.

    Thanks. Will do.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    Light hearted? In many ways, I think SP is one of the darker Bond films we've got, nearing a psychological thriller at some points and a paranoid, skewed adventure at others.

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    @Haserot-you got it wrong. Logan is fall 16 and then Othello in December.
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    Logan just began pre-production this weekend.

    Website for where Othello will be performed still isn't giving out precise dates.

    http://www.newyorkcitytheatre.com/theaters/newyorktheaterworkshop/othello.php
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    @Haserot-you got it wrong. Logan is fall 16 and then Othello in December.

    ok, well either way...
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    Soderbergh is a very economical director, I bet the movie only takes about 30 days to shoot. And since it looks like an ensemble cast kind of thing, DC probably does 15-20 of those days? It will have very little to do with his Bond scheduling.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Soderbergh is a very economical director, I bet the movie only takes about 30 days to shoot. And since it looks like an ensemble cast kind of thing, DC probably does 15-20 of those days? It will have very little to do with his Bond scheduling.

    Making a feature in 30 days!? Who is this guy, Ed Wood!?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Soderbergh is a very economical director, I bet the movie only takes about 30 days to shoot. And since it looks like an ensemble cast kind of thing, DC probably does 15-20 of those days? It will have very little to do with his Bond scheduling.

    Making a feature in 30 days!? Who is this guy, Ed Wood!?

    Well, not making the whole thing from start to finish; @dinovelvet clearly said "30 days to shoot" - pre-production and post-production on top of that. Shooting a movie in 30 days or even less is not wildly unusual or anything. It's not for massive scale stuff, obviously, but for smaller films, yes. It doesn't allow for a huge amounts of takes, either, but not all directors do that, anyway.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Soderbergh is a very economical director, I bet the movie only takes about 30 days to shoot. And since it looks like an ensemble cast kind of thing, DC probably does 15-20 of those days? It will have very little to do with his Bond scheduling.

    Making a feature in 30 days!? Who is this guy, Ed Wood!?

    Spielberg took about 65 days to film 'Schindler's List'.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Soderbergh is a very economical director, I bet the movie only takes about 30 days to shoot. And since it looks like an ensemble cast kind of thing, DC probably does 15-20 of those days? It will have very little to do with his Bond scheduling.

    Making a feature in 30 days!? Who is this guy, Ed Wood!?

    Spielberg took about 65 days to film 'Schindler's List'.

    That's over double.
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    I doubt its 30 days. Its true, pre production has started but with something like siena race was filmed for Qos. But it could easily take 6 months to shoot, if Daniels shooting schedule is finished before. We dont know. Only that he will have finished before December. All one needs to know to make the maths.
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    Mendes's comment could hint at Craig's return. Hear me out. For most news agency who is the absolute last person they think would play bond in Bond 25? Daniel Craig now look at Mendes comment again who is some one no one would expect to play bond in bond 25.... :)

    Food for thought
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Mendes's comment could hint at Craig's return. Hear me out. For most news agency who is the absolute last person they think would play bond in Bond 25? Daniel Craig now look at Mendes comment again who is some one no one would expect to play bond in bond 25.... :)

    Food for thought
    Well, if you look at it that way, it would be Craig returning with a standalone story not involving Spectre, Waltz, Seydoux etc. That would certainly be unexpected.

    It's unlikely though, imho.

    He was just speaking generally most probably, but as expected it gave us fodder for a few days and a few pages on this thread.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Mendes's comment could hint at Craig's return. Hear me out. For most news agency who is the absolute last person they think would play bond in Bond 25? Daniel Craig now look at Mendes comment again who is some one no one would expect to play bond in bond 25.... :)

    Food for thought
    Well, if you look at it that way, it would be Craig returning with a standalone story not involving Spectre, Waltz, Seydoux etc. That would certainly be unexpected.

    It's unlikely though, imho.

    He was just speaking generally most probably, but as expected it gave us fodder for a few days and a few pages on this thread.

    Yes he was speaking generally - he doesn't know anything, he was just saying that BB chooses Bond and she'll pick who she wants, which may well be a surprise in the way that DC was (to some, Mendes included).
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    Like I said I don't know how I would feel starting off the Hiddleston/Fassbender/Hardy era with a revenge scheme and tieing up the loose ends of the Craig era... In theory it should be fine (and blow holes in the whole code name theory once again) but I don't know... I feel Swaan Blofeld and Bond retiring are too important to ignore in bond 25 even if it's a passing mention of dialogue like this

    M: Good to have you back 007 sorry about the death of Swann
    Bond: I got my revenge by killing Blofeld so I found my quantum of solace

    Ok that dialogue is clunky and crap but you get the idea.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    M: Good to have you back 007 sorry about the death of Swann
    Bond: I got my revenge by killing Blofeld so I found my quantum of solace

    Ok that dialogue is clunky and crap but you get the idea.
    Almost, but not quite P&W worthy. "Ciao Mickey Mouse". Where do they come up with this drivel.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    M: Good to have you back 007 sorry about the death of Swann
    Bond: I got my revenge by killing Blofeld so I found my quantum of solace

    Ok that dialogue is clunky and crap but you get the idea.
    Almost, but not quite P&W worthy. "Ciao Mickey Mouse". Where do they come up with this drivel.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    M: Good to have you back 007 sorry about the death of Swann
    Bond: I got my revenge by killing Blofeld so I found my quantum of solace

    Ok that dialogue is clunky and crap but you get the idea.
    Almost, but not quite P&W worthy. "Ciao Mickey Mouse". Where do they come up with this drivel.

    I always thought Logan came up with that line. Honestly when Purvis and Wade are basing their film off of Fleming (and aren't interupted by Tamahori) they can do a good job as I find Casino Royale and 50% of die another day quite good actually (in fact the film could of been top ten had the finale been closer to the novel Moonraker as it was in the original script but Tamahori felt it was too bland plus if I remember correctly Jinx was supposed to be the traitor and Pike was supposed to play Gala Brand which would of added to the awesomeness oh well...) but when left to their own devices skyfall and Spectre... So yeah

  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
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    Making a feature in 30 days!? Who is this guy, Ed Wood!?

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  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Bounine wrote: »
    "And to those pundits who are predicting which direction the series will take post-Craig, Mendes had this piece of advice:"I can guarantee whatever happens with it, it will not be what you expect. That's what [Barbara Broccoli's] been brilliant at, and that's how it'll survive.""

    He said regarding the franchise: "...it will not be what you expect." Not: "...who you expect."

    Who knows how serious Mendes is being. Maybe he doesn't like how all the media thinks that they know what's happening, hence this comment. Or his comments may have real validity.


    In an interview for Deadline back in November, Mendes said something very similar. Here it is:


    "DEADLINE: There are all these rumors you and Daniel Craig are done. That would leave the producers with a changed franchise, and the need to find a new actor and filmmaker. In the past, all they needed was to suit up a new actor, give him a villain to chase, and cue the opening theme.

    MENDES: I grew up on Dr. Who, and its ideas of regeneration. People say, “Well, once you’ve acknowledged time passing and Bond getting older and characters dying, how do you continue the franchise?” And the answer is you regenerate, and you have to be as brave as when they cast Daniel, and when they let M die. They have to go off in a completely different direction, into regenerating mythology. You cast a new actor and find a new director, and make something totally new. I can, off the top of my head, give you three or four ideas for where it could go next. They’re all daring and big. To me, the enemy is repetition and laziness, and the great danger is not challenging the preexisting format. These are my two chapters of the Bond myth. Someone else is going to write a chapter or 10 or 50, because Bond is strong enough for that, and because there’s enough to play with."



    Perhaps this is not just the usual 'expect the unexpected' phrase, there might be something substantial behind this. EON might actually try and do something completely new and original with the series.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Perhaps this is not just the usual 'expect the unexpected' phrase, there might be something substantial behind this. EON might actually try and do something completely new and original with the series.
    I actually like how Mendes put it in that interview.

    Yes, I have a feeling they will switch it up for the next one. Most likely a 'soft reboot' like GE/TLD imho, but perhaps something even more daring. Like I said, we are at a very interesting fork in the road stage for Bond imho, with the new distributor, and most likely a new vision (with increasing involvement from the Wilson son and less from Michael himself).
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Perhaps this is not just the usual 'expect the unexpected' phrase, there might be something substantial behind this. EON might actually try and do something completely new and original with the series.
    I actually like how Mendes put it in that interview.

    Yes, I have a feeling they will switch it up for the next one. Most likely a 'soft reboot' like GE/TLD imho, but perhaps something even more daring. Like I said, we are at a very interesting fork in the road stage for Bond imho, with the new distributor, and most likely a new vision (with increasing involvement from the Wilson son and less from Michael himself).

    Sounds interesting, definitely.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Perhaps this is not just the usual 'expect the unexpected' phrase, there might be something substantial behind this. EON might actually try and do something completely new and original with the series.
    I actually like how Mendes put it in that interview.

    Yes, I have a feeling they will switch it up for the next one. Most likely a 'soft reboot' like GE/TLD imho, but perhaps something even more daring. Like I said, we are at a very interesting fork in the road stage for Bond imho, with the new distributor, and most likely a new vision (with increasing involvement from the Wilson son and less from Michael himself).

    Sounds interesting, definitely.

    Those comments of Mendes' are interesting given that they did the opposite with Spectre i.e. it went back to the formula rather than challenged it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Perhaps this is not just the usual 'expect the unexpected' phrase, there might be something substantial behind this. EON might actually try and do something completely new and original with the series.
    I actually like how Mendes put it in that interview.

    Yes, I have a feeling they will switch it up for the next one. Most likely a 'soft reboot' like GE/TLD imho, but perhaps something even more daring. Like I said, we are at a very interesting fork in the road stage for Bond imho, with the new distributor, and most likely a new vision (with increasing involvement from the Wilson son and less from Michael himself).

    Sounds interesting, definitely.

    Those comments of Mendes' are interesting given that they did the opposite with Spectre i.e. it went back to the formula rather than challenged it.
    Yes, I was thinking the same. I really think that was 'by design' though, as Craig had said for some time that he wanted the 'old irony' back etc. He telegraphed that move after SF was released, if I recall, and that is what we got. Something for those who like that sort of thing.
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    Enough people were moaning the traditions and now they got it. No more, no mess. Something else will be next. With or without Daniel. Not hard to figure that out imo.
  • edited May 2016 Posts: 4,400
    Susanna Bier in talks to direct next Bond film?

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-05-31/night-manager-director-in-the-frame-to-take-over-james-bond-films-from-sam-mendes

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    I hope I'm not the only person who was underwhelmed by The Night Manager. It was pedestrianly executed and a totally middling and uninspired piece of Sunday night tripe. It was the most passé and routine spy drama I'd seen in years. Bier's job was merely adequate.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I agree, but it was good enough for tv work. Excellent actually, for that genre.

    I'm sure she will step up her game if given the scope and budget of Bond, as would many directors.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    If she were to direct, that would be more chances that Hiddleston might become the next Bond.
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