No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 820
    @peter raises many excellent points about Canada's suitability logistically -- it's a desirable place for a production of Bond's size right now, for many reason. No concerns there.

    As a stand-in for other locations -- no concern there either. Very easy to make Toronto look convincingly like NYC or...well, just about any major city. That does, however, go a bit against the spirit of Bond historically (putting the money on the screen, and authentic travel to exotic places) so I wouldn't bet on it outside of, perhaps, an action sequence that requires some prohibitively expensive scale (if filmed elsewhere).

    I'd be more interested to know, personally, what the narrative angle would be if the country's playing itself. I can think of a few...
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    There is an amusing book to be written on Bond locations doubling for other countries. Spain comes to mind: while featured in many Bond films, I think the only time it was officially and unofficially Spain was in TWINE.

    Back on topic, Cubby never squandered on showing actual, vibrant locations. I hope B25 offers us the same.
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    I'm all for Camille and Leiter to return for Bond 25!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    octofinger wrote: »
    -this leads me to guess that a Canadian location could be used like Mt.Asgard was in TSWLM. More recently, a stunning Alberta waterfall was used as a stand-in for a remote Alaskan training location in The Bourne Legacy.
    I'm with you. 'If' Canada is used, this is what I expect as well, based on the 'icy desert' comment from the man who started this rumour.
    octofinger wrote: »
    Or, sadly (and probably more likely), this is all just a bunch of Chinese Whispers and pre-pre-production speculation, and the production won't come within a thousand miles of Canada.
    Also quite possible.
    If they use Canada right, go to some of the scenic places maybe in the mountains, it can be great, however it’ll be dull if it’s just like Bond walking around Vancouver, that’s boring I don’t want to see that
    True. I don't think they'll use a big Canadian city as itself, but let's see.
  • Two tracks I can’t stop listening to: “The Landing” from FIRST MAN by Justin Hurwitz (which was posted here earlier) and “Sherlocked” by David Arnold. In the case of the latter does it remind anyone a little of Paris’ theme from TND or Elektra’s theme from TWINE? It has that beautiful late 90s Arnold sound that I love.
  • As a Canadian, I'd like to see Canada play itself. For the most part, the major cities don't provide anything too exotic or Bondian, however I could see Toronto playing itself, as I think it's a city with a very interesting aesthetic but it's so often doubling as another city.

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    As an Albertan, I think Banff and Jasper would make fantastic locations, although it's hard to imagine them going for another alpine locale after Spectre. That said, the Fairmont Banff Springs hotel has always oozed Bond to me.

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    I'm all for Canada as a location. I think it would be very cool.

    I actually think it would be interesting if B25 featured only one or 2 main locales. I love that DN is set primarily in Jamaica, TB in the Bahamas, YOLT in Japan, OHMSS in Portugal and Switzerland, and so forth.
    Some of the later films flip from location to location so fast the film doesn't give the environment a chance to make much of an impression. Rome as seen in SP, doesn't exactly make me want to go there to visit. Whereas I'd love to see Piz Gloria someday, or the James Bond Island from TMWTGG.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    As a Canadian, I'd like to see Canada play itself. For the most part, the major cities don't provide anything too exotic or Bondian, however I could see Toronto playing itself, as I think it's a city with a very interesting aesthetic but it's so often doubling as another city.

    19413024526_1632813c98_h.jpg

    As an Albertan, I think Banff and Jasper would make fantastic locations, although it's hard to imagine them going for another alpine locale after Spectre. That said, the Fairmont Banff Springs hotel has always oozed Bond to me.

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    What majestic and timeless beauty.

    Yes, James Bond should come to Canada, as Fleming had him do-- we have a wonderful and terrifying landscape....

    However, I have to reiterate, and I want to be wrong, but no one in the industry is talking JB. At all. And considering, from a production POV, 25 would be the most sought after gig.

    There's no hint of EoN landing on our shores. No one is talking about nailing the Bond gig anywhere in Canada...

    I still hold out hope that we have a quick scene in Alberta, or Quebec-- an action sequence that is two weeks here and doesn't need a studio space (since most, if not all, will be close to being booked out for March)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    peter wrote: »
    Yes, James Bond should come to Canada, as Fleming had him do-- we have a wonderful and terrifying landscape....

    Agreed! FYEO, TSWLM...
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Is it to late to revert back to the original release date?

    You really can't make this stuff up.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Filming in Canada? Possible Icebreaker adaptation in the works? You would need to modernize the Soviets plot, and I would swap the main villain with Blofeld. It seems like a plot for him and SPECTRE anyway.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited October 2018 Posts: 45,489
    As a Canadian, I'd like to see Canada play itself. For the most part, the major cities don't provide anything too exotic or Bondian, however I could see Toronto playing itself, as I think it's a city with a very interesting aesthetic but it's so often doubling as another city.

    19413024526_1632813c98_h.jpg

    As an Albertan, I think Banff and Jasper would make fantastic locations, although it's hard to imagine them going for another alpine locale after Spectre. That said, the Fairmont Banff Springs hotel has always oozed Bond to me.

    124447069.jpg


    Beautiful video.

    Any location depends on how it is utilized and shot.
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    I´d love to see that Clip made into a 2h movie, Bond or not.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I just hope this time around where ever we end up locationwise it's not squandered. The past few movies have done a disappointing job in really giving us a chance to be immersed within the atmosphere of some lovely locations.
  • doubleoego wrote: »
    I just hope this time around where ever we end up locationwise it's not squandered. The past few movies have done a disappointing job in really giving us a chance to be immersed within the atmosphere of some lovely locations.

    Intriguing.

    I couldn't disagree more.

    ⚫ CR had a terrific 'summer in Europe' feel to it. Furthermore, you also had a lovely jaunt in the Bahamas to add some exoticism to the affair.
    ⚫ QOS had a terrifically eclectic array of locations. It probablt has the most interesting and diverse selection of locations. All of which are deftly handled.
    ⚫ SF is a slight let-down. But there is something quite exciting fro native Londoners to see Bond in familiar sights. Though it was disheartening that the second unit only went to China.
    ⚫ SP had amazing locations. Enough to top QOS and apologise for SF.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I'll give you CR and QoS as I thought locationwise they did a good job but SF and SP just didn't do it for me. Don't get me wrong, the locations themselves were nice but too little time was spent really getting thorough flavour. Also, outside of briefing purposes I'm not a fan of "London" in Bond films.
  • RC7RC7
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    New director. New vision.
  • edited October 2018 Posts: 3,333
    I concur @doubleoego. I also am not a fan of Bond in London. As an ex-Londoner it just feels phoney. Take the sliding down the escalator scene in SF for instance, which is not possible to do anymore since LFL erected buffers to stop this from happening. As a matter of fact, I used to think this would've made a good stunt back in the 70's and 80's when I used to see people do it for real. These inaccuracies just take me out of the movie. Same goes for magically getting from one part of London to the next in a blink of an eye.

    All this talk of Canada is great and it's a beautiful location, but is there really any validity in the rumour?
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    I actually like seeing London and the UK in Bond movies.
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
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    Is it to late to revert back to the original release date?

    You really can't make this stuff up.

    I think it's a little too late to reverse back to the original release date since it's likely fukunaga is completely reworking the script right now with purvis and wade
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Agreed. I don’t see them reverting back to the original release date. Especially when they have six months to shoot, how much time are they going to invest in post-production? Mere weeks?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    I'll give you CR and QoS as I thought locationwise they did a good job but SF and SP just didn't do it for me. Don't get me wrong, the locations themselves were nice but too little time was spent really getting thorough flavour. Also, outside of briefing purposes I'm not a fan of "London" in Bond films.

    On my wish list for the next film is a more vibrant color palette. When I look at Craig’s four films, his first two, CR and QoS, strike me as colorful and rich; his second two , combined, strike me as “grey”; this has an effect on how locations, and they were presented, are perceived.
    Now I know that examples can be found that somewhat contradict this, but as a whole it fairly representative.

    It has occurred to me, that the story direction, and many of the choices made by Sam Mendes are what ‘created the feeling of “grey” ;)
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    talos7 wrote: »
    It has occurred to me, that the story direction, and many of the choices made by Sam Mendes are what ‘created the feeling of “grey” ;)

    He was secretly trying to make Daniel look less blonde ;) That actually worked a bit in SF, but he had to shave Danny's head while he was asleep.

    Seriously now, couldn't agree more. We need more colour in these films. Although to be fair, SF was saved by Deakins in that department.
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
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    I really like that they pushed the release date back by only three months instead of rushing production so it could meet the Nov 2019 release date it shows that they really want to make craig's last bond film the best they can make it
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I saw an interview somewhere in which Craig and Mendes commented on the need to painstakingly colour correct SF after the fact. It had something to do with the digital cameras creating a look which made folks look older, or something along those lines. The benefit of digital is the night photography (including Shanghai and the finale at SF ranch) are top notch (as they were in the similarly lensed Collateral), but the daytime scenes in contrast have a bit of a washed out look. I'm not sure what the excuse was on SP (for which they didn't use digital) but I suspect it was either a creative choice by Hoyte or it was to cover up shoddy CGI effects.

    I definitely agree on all points recently expressed. I too am longing for more colour in the next Bond film (that was one of the things which drew me to these films in the first place - that sense of wonderment at travelling vicariously as a kid to these great locations and experiencing something vibrant, cultural and exotic with Bond), would also like more immersion in one or two specific locations, and would prefer to see less London going forward.
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    London should be seen,but only during the mission briefing scene,for a while.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    London should be seen,but only during the mission briefing scene,for a while.
    +1
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    London should be seen,but only during the mission briefing scene,for a while.
    +1

    I agree. A month ago I was in London and what a breathtaking city. Even if just used as a location to send Bond off on his mission, show it in it’s best light as the vital, international hub that it is . Enough of the fog and gloom.
  • talos7 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    London should be seen,but only during the mission briefing scene,for a while.
    +1

    I agree. A month ago I was in London and what a breathtaking city. Even if just used as a location to send Bond off on his mission, show it in it’s best light as the vital, international hub that it is . Enough of the fog and gloom.

    I personally love the way Mendes used London in his films. I live in the city and look for any excuse to watch it in film. I actually went to see some of the filming after work as it was around the corner and met Mendes and Gary Powell.


    The scenes have an authenticity to them. It felt sincere and honest, which makes the inclusion of Bond in such a setting all the more compelling. I got a real kick out of seeing Bond in the Underground chasing a villain. Also, the cinematography on the Thames and Westminster bridge is absolutely stunning.

    Also, Mendes was right to portray the drab and dreary nature of Whitehall. Many have shirked away from it, but I love the slightly bureaucratic and gloomy nature of these scenes. It always plays nicely against Bond’s more lavish and larger than life world.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited October 2018 Posts: 2,541
    talos7 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    London should be seen,but only during the mission briefing scene,for a while.
    +1

    I agree. A month ago I was in London and what a breathtaking city. Even if just used as a location to send Bond off on his mission, show it in it’s best light as the vital, international hub that it is . Enough of the fog and gloom.

    I personally love the way Mendes used London in his films. I live in the city and look for any excuse to watch it in film. I actually went to see some of the filming after work as it was around the corner and met Mendes and Gary Powell.


    The scenes have an authenticity to them. It felt sincere and honest, which makes the inclusion of Bond in such a setting all the more compelling. I got a real kick out of seeing Bond in the Underground chasing a villain. Also, the cinematography on the Thames and Westminster bridge is absolutely stunning.

    Also, Mendes was right to portray the drab and dreary nature of Whitehall. Many have shirked away from it, but I love the slightly bureaucratic and gloomy nature of these scenes. It always plays nicely against Bond’s more lavish and larger than life world.

    I liked Spectre's London cinematography more than skyfall especially boat chase in the end.
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