No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 1,162
    It's also a concern to me, because they'll give us a miserable Bond film.

    Skyfall 2

    No, don't worry. Not that bad.
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
    Posts: 805
    I'm not saying that I would particularly welcome EON going down the Logan route, just that it wouldn't surprise me if they did, as they've often looked to other successful formulas in the past (Blaxploitation=LALD, Bruce lee =TMWTGG, Star Wars=MR, Miami vice=LTK, Dark Knight=SF etc.). If so, wouldn't be the worse idea IMO to use some appropriate Fleming material as a source.

    There's nothing more I'd like then a straight Commander Bond on mission, no personal angles, no navel-gazing movie but i don't think with Craig, particularly at this stage of his tenure, we're going to get it. Let him have his emotional send-off and then all guns blazing for a fresh reimagining with the new guys (hopefully Nolan and Hardy).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
    Posts: 7,293
    I'm not saying that I would particularly welcome EON going down the Logan route, just that it wouldn't surprise me if they did, as they've often looked to other successful formulas in the past (Blaxploitation=LALD, Bruce lee =TMWTGG, Star Wars=MR, Miami vice=LTK, Dark Knight=SF etc.). If so, wouldn't be the worse idea IMO to use some appropriate Fleming material as a source.

    There's nothing more I'd like then a straight Commander Bond on mission, no personal angles, no navel-gazing movie but i don't think with Craig, particularly at this stage of his tenure, we're going to get it. Let him have his emotional send-off and then all guns blazing for a fresh reimagining with the new guys (hopefully Nolan and Hardy).

    I would be very surprised if that wasn't the route they take if Craig is back.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Nolan and Hardy won't be any different from the Craig extravaganza of the emotional parade.
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    Nolan and Hardy won't be any different from the Craig extravaganza of the emotional parade.

    So why bother with them at all?
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    I get Nolan and Hardy for a trilogy post Craig I am beyond
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Nolan and Hardy won't be any different from the Craig extravaganza of the emotional parade.

    So why bother with them at all?
    Exactly. I'm dead against the idea.

    And I'm not talking about Hardy's utmost unsuitability for the role, yet.
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
    Posts: 805
    Nolan and Hardy won't be any different from the Craig extravaganza of the emotional parade.

    The online film critic HULK had a really good article the other day about how Nolan doesn't really do emotion in his films so perhaps not! (bit of a long read but I'll post it any way)

    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/07/26/film-crit-hulk-smash-christopher-nolan-the-cruelty-of-time

    I really do think it would be one of the great missed opportunities if Nolan isn't given the chance at some stage. The spectacular OHMSS-inspired action sequence from Inception is almost enough in my book. He's the biggest film director in the world right now with Warner Bros happy to bankroll him to make pretty much anything he likes, there really would be no boundaries to bringing his vision for Bond to the screen. Just imagine sitting down to a spectacular IMAX-shot PTS.... goosebumps!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    The Dark Knight trilogy and Inception have become the templates for Nolan's way of making films and all I saw in those films were emotions, personal melodramas with a storyline that's done in a vein of what he thinks to be the Rubik's Cube when it's actually not. The way people think Skyfall comes across as. I'd rather not see yet another Bond movie where everything is moving the quasi-intellectuals and immediately everyone elects it to be an Academy Award nominee. I just want my Bond out there, entertaining the viewers as he saves the world, defeats the villain in style and gets the girl. That's what I want from Bond. Not a mind solving puzzle.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
    Posts: 7,293
    The Dark Knight trilogy and Inception have become the templates for Nolan's way of making films and all I saw in those films were emotions, personal melodramas with a storyline that's done in a vein of what he thinks to be the Rubik's Cube when it's actually not.

    That was before Dunkirk. This is phase 2 Nolan we're into now.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    The Dark Knight trilogy and Inception have become the templates for Nolan's way of making films and all I saw in those films were emotions, personal melodramas with a storyline that's done in a vein of what he thinks to be the Rubik's Cube when it's actually not.

    That was before Dunkirk. This is phase 2 Nolan we're into now.
    I hope you're right.
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    The Dark Knight trilogy and Inception have become the templates for Nolan's way of making films and all I saw in those films were emotions, personal melodramas with a storyline that's done in a vein of what he thinks to be the Rubik's Cube when it's actually not.

    That was before Dunkirk. This is phase 2 Nolan we're into now.

    Dunkirk isn't emotional?!
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,127
    jake24 wrote: »
    Is there a date for the Kings premiere? I'll probably go just to see Barbara (insert heart face)
    Trying to find that out, @dominicgreene. Planning on going myself.

    The schedule doesn't come out until 22nd August.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited July 2017 Posts: 1,756
    bondjames wrote: »
    At the risk of offending his die hard fans, after SP I've felt that Craig's iteration has to some extent hijacked Bond. It's too much about him and his iteration's troubles & history. I find that distracting when I go back and watch the earlier films (which I much prefer).

    Moreover, the whole thing doesn't jive for me due to the poor execution in the last film. I find it 'shoehorned' in to accommodate his sensibilities and reboot iteration. It doesn't help that I grew up with Blofeld and Bond.

    These are the primary reasons I want a new Bond actor, and not because I have any dislike against Craig's portrayal (although I didn't like how he played it in SP). It's more on account of it all being about him these days. Even the 'wrist slash', 'money' and 'will he won't he' thing all revolves around him. It's becoming a bit tiresome.

    Again, sorry to offend.

    I agree with you. Things seem to revolving around Craig a bit too much for comfort. Will he or won't he? Wait until Craig's in the mood to tell us. Doesn't help Barbara is basically infatuated with him. Bond is not Craig.

    You can't just take a job like Bond and expect everyone to forget about your status. One of the downfalls of being in that position; you want people to take you seriously as an actor, yet we're only concerned about whether or not he's coming back. Maybe it's out of spite.

    And I'm not saying these things out of impatience. But as fans, who've basically made Bond the billion dollar franchise it is... I don't think it's unfair to be a bit frustrated.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Kingdumb of Norway
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    Yes, damn EON! Damn them to hell!
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    Yes, damn EON! Damn them to hell!

    Damn and blast! Fiddlesticks, blundering, half-witted operation. I
  • I would be happy with anyone, but Craig.
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    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25.

    Just reminding you all!!
  • Posts: 1,162
    Until they officially confirm it, I still very much doubt it.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,724
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25.

    Just reminding you all!!

    Still hoping you're right!
  • Posts: 4,619
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25.

    Just reminding you all!!

    Exactly. Bond 25 = Craig. Demange. Warner. Last EON Bond film. Bond 26 = New actor. Nolan. Warner. New producers.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Nolan doesn't appear to have spoken with EON since pre-SP based on recent interviews. He's still jockeying for the job in the future. This 'sale' talk is speculation too. Craig is still unconfirmed.

    For all we know the shakeup is coming in 2019.
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    The trades, while they haven't confirmed, they're confident that Craig is back...
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25.

    Just reminding you all!!

    Exactly. Bond 25 = Craig. Demange. Warner. Last EON Bond film. Bond 26 = New actor. Nolan. Warner. New producers.

    Bond 24 theme = Radiohead


    Oh wait...


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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 34,609
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25.

    Just reminding you all!!

    Exactly. Bond 25 = Craig. Demange. Warner. Last EON Bond film. Bond 26 = New actor. Nolan. Warner. New producers.

    Bond 24 theme = Radiohead


    Oh wait...


    423.gif

    Post of the week right here!
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    Posts: 3,244
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25.

    Just reminding you all!!

    Exactly. Bond 25 = Craig. Demange. Warner. Last EON Bond film. Bond 26 = New actor. Nolan. Warner. New producers.

    Bond 24 theme = Radiohead


    Oh wait...


    423.gif

    Hahahaha
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    But Panchito was close. Radiohead did a song. For all we know this could be situation with Craig right now (close to a deal but not confirmed).

    At the end of the day we really don't know right now.
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    Maybe not Bond 26, but Nolan is definitly going to direct at least one Bond movie in the not so distant future. My message to Nolan haters: Deal. With. It. ;)

    @bondjames Maybe they are planning a shakeup with Bond 25. If so, hiring P & W again was an even bigger mistake than otherwise.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    Posts: 2,989
    All I can say about B25 is I don't want to see EON attempt to wrap up Craig's story line, or have them over react to SP's less than great reception by going dark and gritty again. I'm fine with a return of Craig so long as these things don't happen, but I fear they will. In fact, I fear they may still occur even with a new actor.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    All I can say about B25 is I don't want to see EON attempt to wrap up Craig's story line, or have them over react to SP's less than great reception by going dark and gritty again. I'm fine with a return of Craig so long as these things don't happen, but I fear they will. In fact, I fear they may still occur even with a new actor.
    Are you my alter ego or summin'?
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