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  • edited March 2017 Posts: 2,107
    I did a google search on the picture and I'm sorry to say it's from Spectre's german premiere. :(

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    SharkBait wrote: »
    I did a google search on the picture and I'm sorry to say it's from Spectre's german premiere. :(

    As I said in another thread, it is an old photograph. Dan's hair looks entirely different in both, and there's no way he got a snip that fast, and even parts of his build were visibly unique.
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    It was posted at DTD, too. I asked her about a link. But I am sure, its legit. They were together at the Awards show, so its a pretty sure thing, they will spend more time together. Even only as friends, which they are.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    It was posted at DTD, too. I asked her about a link. But I am sure, its legit. They were together at the Awards show, so its a pretty sure thing, they will spend more time together. Even only as friends, which they are.

    Yes, they go to events together like that all the time, but that image being reported as recent (as in the last week) is patently false.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    It's just a stock photo of the two of them together. If no actual image from the event was available, I guess this is what they've used.
    This isn't exactly ground breaking news, but it's good that they socialise and probably discuss Bond when they do.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I do believe that Broccoli co-produced Othello. So it's not as if the two have been "apart" since SP premiered.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    TripAces wrote: »
    I do believe that Broccoli co-produced Othello. So it's not as if the two have been "apart" since SP premiered.

    They've often creatively linked outside of Bond, and do little favors for each other in that way, such as Barbara producing something Dan wants to do and him starring in it, as well as all the ambassador work he does partly on account of the Bond brand with the likes of Omega. They're a great team and clearly get on splendidly. Barbara seems to be a good friend to him, and she's invited to a lot of events he's at, or events that are for him.

    Even after Dan is done being Bond I'm sure they will find a way to work together in some way, shape or form afterward, possibly through a play that Barbara and EON produce in between the filming of the Bond movies.
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    Glad to see this thread back in action again. Yeah it looked like an older picture. Still with Craig and Barbara hanging out hopefully some headway is being made on B25.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    It's like she doesn't let him too far out of her sight - he's nailed on for B25 I'm sure.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.
  • Posts: 2,400
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    @StirredNotShaken I haven't turned on Craig. I still like him and would be happy if he did another Bond film, I'm just saying I'd also be fine if another actor took over. I'm expressing indifference, not animus.
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 3,275
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    @StirredNotShaken I haven't turned on Craig. I still like him and would be happy if he did another Bond film, I'm just saying I'd also be fine if another actor took over. I'm expressing indifference, not animus.

    I was a huge fan of Craig, particularly with CR. I was hoping the rest of his tenure would follow in the same vain - back to the Fleming novels.

    I was really optimistic when the title of QoS was announced. It suddenly felt like Cubby was alive and we were back to the 80's again - resurrecting short stories by Fleming.

    But I felt a tad disappointed after QoS, mainly because there wasn't one reference check to the novel, but I was still pleased to hear the Arnold early 70's Barry vibe. The film overall wasn't bad, but it was definitely a step away from the more human Bond we saw in CR, who bleeds and feels physical pain. In QoS Bond bleeds, but doesn't appear to feel pain anymore, with some of his super human feats in the film having no physical consequences (that ludicrous freefall scene for example).

    With SF and SP, I feel Mendes undid all that hard work that CR brought us. No reliance on the Fleming novels, and gone was the more realistic aspects - Bond bloodied and battered. SF at least tries to cover this at the beginning of the film, with Bond losing his mojo due to a serious injury, but after that the film tries to explore new territory, and with no reliance on Fleming whatsoever.

    I really despise the Newman soundtrack in both films. It feels a severe departure from Barry, and at least with Arnold, for all his faults, he still evokes a Barry sound wherever possible.

    So I will look back on Craig's tenure as a massive improvement over Brosnan, but not quite good as Dalton. It started brilliantly with CR, but went slowly downhill as each film passed. The only constant who has remained solid through all 4 films is Craig himself, so for that alone I'll be sorry when he leaves.

    But again, I'll be up for a new Bond if it means we go in a new direction. Well, not that new. I want them to go back to the books. Untapped Fleming material. Resurrect it, in all its glory. Not a half-arsed loose adaptation.

    And let's hear the next actor say things that Dalton used to come out with. I want him to be a massive fan of the novels. I want him to be the driving force in forcing the producers to go back to the books - just like Dalton did.

    I've never once heard Craig speak of the novels fondly like Dalton did. He's obviously read them, but I don't get the sense he is really trying to interpret the character Fleming wrote. He is a very good actor, and brilliant at conveying hidden depth emotions. But I feel his performance is driven purely by the script he's given, and not by the Fleming source material.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I'm curious to know if the next actor would have even read Fleming. At this rate we're likely to get an actor who's more knowledgeable and read from cover to cover JK Rowling than Fleming. (I love the Potter books btw).
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 3,275
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I'm curious to know if the next actor would have even read Fleming. At this rate we're likely to get an actor who's more knowledgeable and read from cover to cover JK Rowling than Fleming. (I love the Potter books btw).

    If its a classically trained actor, then no doubt he would go back to the novels, because most thespians who take the craft seriously try to understand the root of a character, and this usually means going back to the source, wherever it may be.

    If they go down the route of something silly like Idris Elba, or another actor who is a popular choice but not necessarily classically trained, then I doubt it. We'll just get another generic action hero who dresses in nice suits and likes bedding women.

  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Please refer to the following thread to discuss potential actors in the role of James Bond.
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/10108/who-should-could-be-a-bond-actor#latest
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.
    +1

    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.
    I have and he has my gratitude for CR/QoS and to a lesser extent SF. Through no fault of of his own, we have had only four films over eleven long years. He can stay or he can go. Doesn't matter to me. Some of us have respect for the franchise first and foremost, and the actor second. I happen to be one of them.
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I'm curious to know if the next actor would have even read Fleming. At this rate we're likely to get an actor who's more knowledgeable and read from cover to cover JK Rowling than Fleming. (I love the Potter books btw).

    If its a classically trained actor, then no doubt he would go back to the novels, because most thespians who take the craft seriously try to understand the root of a character, and this usually means going back to the source, wherever it may be.
    Agreed. He would at least have read it, but it's the essence of Fleming's creation that must be captured along with the film iteration's flippancy. They tried with SP and didn't do it very successfully in my view. Right idea, bad execution. Hopefully they get it right with B25.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I think that with the likes of Deadpool, John Wick, Logan, the upcoming atomic blonde and others, particularly deadpool and Logan some studios are taking advantage of the knowledge that some of the films based on certain characters that need and should be portrayed in a certain way that doesn't neuter them can not only proves to be authentic but still make a great deal of money.

    I bring this up because going forward I feel like Bond maybe able to recapture elements that made him unique and were truly authentic to who the character is have been watered down. Going in a new/slightly new direction would be the perfect opportunity to see a more Fleming portrayal. Audiences have shown that heroes/antiheroes can operate in grey/dicey areas and still be a crowd pleaser where there aren't any adverse effects on the bottom line.

    I'm not advocating an R-rated Bond as such but I want a return to a less PC Bond and a character/film that is confident in the story it wants to tell while unashamedly embracing the source material upon which it is based. There's an audience out there for it and more than enough money to be made from it. Bond at the moment isn't the joke it was or at least it was becoming in the 90s, however, a lot more authenticity can be restored to the character and now's the perfect opportunity to take advantage of this recent opening. The last thing EoN should be faced with is for some other studio to make a full blown R rated spy movie that's a box office smash hit. EoN need to get in front and on top of this asap.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    Are you kidding me? He's the one who doesn't even want to be bond, he's the one who never wanted to do more than 3 bond films. He would rather slit his wrists then do another one, so why doesn't he just go
  • Posts: 12,506
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    Are you kidding me? He's the one who doesn't even want to be bond, he's the one who never wanted to do more than 3 bond films. He would rather slit his wrists then do another one, so why doesn't he just go

    I think their is quite some over reacting here? We are simply going to have to wait to hear something official! Sooner or later we will find out as the clock is ticking VERY loudly now.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited March 2017 Posts: 1,756
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I think that with the likes of Deadpool, John Wick, Logan, the upcoming atomic blonde and others, particularly deadpool and Logan some studios are taking advantage of the knowledge that some of the films based on certain characters that need and should be portrayed in a certain way that doesn't neuter them can not only proves to be authentic but still make a great deal of money.

    I bring this up because going forward I feel like Bond maybe able to recapture elements that made him unique and were truly authentic to who the character is have been watered down. Going in a new/slightly new direction would be the perfect opportunity to see a more Fleming portrayal. Audiences have shown that heroes/antiheroes can operate in grey/dicey areas and still be a crowd pleaser where there aren't any adverse effects on the bottom line.

    I'm not advocating an R-rated Bond as such but I want a return to a less PC Bond and a character/film that is confident in the story it wants to tell while unashamedly embracing the source material upon which it is based. There's an audience out there for it and more than enough money to be made from it. Bond at the moment isn't the joke it was or at least it was becoming in the 90s, however, a lot more authenticity can be restored to the character and now's the perfect opportunity to take advantage of this recent opening. The last thing EoN should be faced with is for some other studio to make a full blown R rated spy movie that's a box office smash hit. EoN need to get in front and on top of this asap.

    Agree.

    Bond needs to learn a lot from John Wick. Wick proved to audiences you don't need extreme action set pieces to make a captivating action movie. I also wouldn't mind a more R rated Bond film.

    I feel like Bond needs to take a sharp left turn from where SPECTRE went. Even more left than Casino Royale.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    It's not because of Craig, it's because of SPECTRE.

    First of all, the movie felt like an ending chapter for Craig's era (scenes from CR, QOS and SF were in the title sequence, the movie wrapped all three together, all loose ends were tied, the "author of all [Bond's] pain" has been arrested and Bond left MI6 to settle down with Madeleine). I'm not saying there's no way to carry his story on, but there's no reason to. The whole movie really feels like the final chapter.

    Secondly, SPECTRE is such a mess that we'd rather move on from the "daddy loved you more" storyline and the "this time it's personal" themes, which is way bringing a new actor and starting a new story would be much better.
  • Posts: 4,325
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I think that with the likes of Deadpool, John Wick, Logan, the upcoming atomic blonde and others, particularly deadpool and Logan some studios are taking advantage of the knowledge that some of the films based on certain characters that need and should be portrayed in a certain way that doesn't neuter them can not only proves to be authentic but still make a great deal of money.

    I bring this up because going forward I feel like Bond maybe able to recapture elements that made him unique and were truly authentic to who the character is have been watered down. Going in a new/slightly new direction would be the perfect opportunity to see a more Fleming portrayal. Audiences have shown that heroes/antiheroes can operate in grey/dicey areas and still be a crowd pleaser where there aren't any adverse effects on the bottom line.

    I'm not advocating an R-rated Bond as such but I want a return to a less PC Bond and a character/film that is confident in the story it wants to tell while unashamedly embracing the source material upon which it is based. There's an audience out there for it and more than enough money to be made from it. Bond at the moment isn't the joke it was or at least it was becoming in the 90s, however, a lot more authenticity can be restored to the character and now's the perfect opportunity to take advantage of this recent opening. The last thing EoN should be faced with is for some other studio to make a full blown R rated spy movie that's a box office smash hit. EoN need to get in front and on top of this asap.

    Agree.

    Bond needs to learn a lot from John Wick. Wick proved to audiences you don't need extreme action set pieces to make a captivating action movie. I also wouldn't mind a more R rated Bond film.

    I feel like Bond needs to take a sharp left turn from where SPECTRE went. Even more left than Casino Royale.

    Spectre is a far superior film to John Wick.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Walecs wrote: »
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    It's not because of Craig, it's because of SPECTRE.

    First of all, the movie felt like an ending chapter for Craig's era (scenes from CR, QOS and SF were in the title sequence, the movie wrapped all three together, all loose ends were tied, the "author of all [Bond's] pain" has been arrested and Bond left MI6 to settle down with Madeleine). I'm not saying there's no way to carry his story on, but there's no reason to. The whole movie really feels like the final chapter.

    Secondly, SPECTRE is such a mess that we'd rather move on from the "daddy loved you more" storyline and the "this time it's personal" themes, which is way bringing a new actor and starting a new story would be much better.
    I completely agree. While Craig can indeed return, there's really no reason for him to, as they closed off his reboot arc (including reintroducing Blofeld and reimagining his importance within the Bond universe) with SP.

    There was a poster on the old leaks thread who claimed to know Mendes. He postulated that Craig & Mendes had made a conscious decision to wrap up his arc and make it impossible for him to return. While I disagree with his premise, I agree that they certainly did wrap it up with the last film, even if ham-fistedly.

    I can imagine that there are lots of discussions behind closed doors on how to proceed next, especially given the studio situation, trends in the movie business, changes in the global scene etc. etc. I hope for a strategic focus (with a decade or so in mind) rather than something short term, 'next film' oriented and tactical.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I think that with the likes of Deadpool, John Wick, Logan, the upcoming atomic blonde and others, particularly deadpool and Logan some studios are taking advantage of the knowledge that some of the films based on certain characters that need and should be portrayed in a certain way that doesn't neuter them can not only proves to be authentic but still make a great deal of money.

    I bring this up because going forward I feel like Bond maybe able to recapture elements that made him unique and were truly authentic to who the character is have been watered down. Going in a new/slightly new direction would be the perfect opportunity to see a more Fleming portrayal. Audiences have shown that heroes/antiheroes can operate in grey/dicey areas and still be a crowd pleaser where there aren't any adverse effects on the bottom line.

    I'm not advocating an R-rated Bond as such but I want a return to a less PC Bond and a character/film that is confident in the story it wants to tell while unashamedly embracing the source material upon which it is based. There's an audience out there for it and more than enough money to be made from it. Bond at the moment isn't the joke it was or at least it was becoming in the 90s, however, a lot more authenticity can be restored to the character and now's the perfect opportunity to take advantage of this recent opening. The last thing EoN should be faced with is for some other studio to make a full blown R rated spy movie that's a box office smash hit. EoN need to get in front and on top of this asap.

    Agree.

    Bond needs to learn a lot from John Wick. Wick proved to audiences you don't need extreme action set pieces to make a captivating action movie. I also wouldn't mind a more R rated Bond film.

    I feel like Bond needs to take a sharp left turn from where SPECTRE went. Even more left than Casino Royale.

    Spectre is a far superior film to John Wick.
    To the first one, yes. But, the second one is indefinitely an unbeatable film.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Walecs wrote: »
    For me, in my opinion, bond 25 happening in 2018 vs 2019 is a bigger deal than daniel Craig being in vs someone else

    I agree. I don't really care if Craig stays or goes at this point.

    It blows my f@#$ing mind that people who call themselves Bond fans can just turn against a lead actor at the snap of a finger like this. 11 years ago, Daniel Craig was instrumental in stopping these films from ending. We still have a Bond franchise because of him. Just think about that for a minute.

    It's not because of Craig, it's because of SPECTRE.

    First of all, the movie felt like an ending chapter for Craig's era (scenes from CR, QOS and SF were in the title sequence, the movie wrapped all three together, all loose ends were tied, the "author of all [Bond's] pain" has been arrested and Bond left MI6 to settle down with Madeleine). I'm not saying there's no way to carry his story on, but there's no reason to. The whole movie really feels like the final chapter.

    Secondly, SPECTRE is such a mess that we'd rather move on from the "daddy loved you more" storyline and the "this time it's personal" themes, which is way bringing a new actor and starting a new story would be much better.

    Yes, absolutely. I agree with every word of that. My only problem is that I'm not too keen on any of the rumored possible replacements.
  • Posts: 12,837
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I think that with the likes of Deadpool, John Wick, Logan, the upcoming atomic blonde and others, particularly deadpool and Logan some studios are taking advantage of the knowledge that some of the films based on certain characters that need and should be portrayed in a certain way that doesn't neuter them can not only proves to be authentic but still make a great deal of money.

    I bring this up because going forward I feel like Bond maybe able to recapture elements that made him unique and were truly authentic to who the character is have been watered down. Going in a new/slightly new direction would be the perfect opportunity to see a more Fleming portrayal. Audiences have shown that heroes/antiheroes can operate in grey/dicey areas and still be a crowd pleaser where there aren't any adverse effects on the bottom line.

    I'm not advocating an R-rated Bond as such but I want a return to a less PC Bond and a character/film that is confident in the story it wants to tell while unashamedly embracing the source material upon which it is based. There's an audience out there for it and more than enough money to be made from it. Bond at the moment isn't the joke it was or at least it was becoming in the 90s, however, a lot more authenticity can be restored to the character and now's the perfect opportunity to take advantage of this recent opening. The last thing EoN should be faced with is for some other studio to make a full blown R rated spy movie that's a box office smash hit. EoN need to get in front and on top of this asap.

    Good post and I agree (except the bit about the 90s, on the whole I was very happy with Brosnan's first few with GE and TWINE being two of my all time favourites).

    I wouldn't want an R rated Bond (after all I'm sure most of us were kids when we became fans, I'd never want to rob a new generation of the same feeling I had sitting in the cinema watching my first Bond film) but it'd be nice to bring back a few of his traits from the novels that have been lost over the years even if it means making him more of an anti hero (he frequently kills people, but he can't smoke because he'd be a bad role model?) or a man out of time (Kingsman did this quite well I thought with the suits and Colin Firth's character in general). Bond should move with the times sure but I think certain elements are timeless and should carry over no matter what.
    Walecs wrote: »
    the movie felt like an ending chapter for Craig's era (scenes from CR, QOS and SF were in the title sequence, the movie wrapped all three together, all loose ends were tied, the "author of all [Bond's] pain" has been arrested and Bond left MI6 to settle down with Madeleine). I'm not saying there's no way to carry his story on, but there's no reason to. The whole movie really feels like the final chapter.

    I agree. They could find a way to continue but SP definitely felt like it was written as a possible ending to the Craig era imo. And while I loved that film, love Craig as Bond and am on the whole incredibly happy for how his era turned out and thankful for what he did for the series, a fresh start seems infinitely more exciting to me at this point. The prospect of having waited four or five years just to see a film that pointlessly drags out the SP story or (even worse) casually brushes the ending of that film under the carpet completely just to get Craig back for one more doesn't sound very appealing to me. I'd be much happier if they went the soft reboot route and took the films in a fresh, new direction, with lots of new blood (new director, writers, composer, etc, and the only cast member I want to carry over is Wishaw).
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited March 2017 Posts: 1,756
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    I think that with the likes of Deadpool, John Wick, Logan, the upcoming atomic blonde and others, particularly deadpool and Logan some studios are taking advantage of the knowledge that some of the films based on certain characters that need and should be portrayed in a certain way that doesn't neuter them can not only proves to be authentic but still make a great deal of money.

    I bring this up because going forward I feel like Bond maybe able to recapture elements that made him unique and were truly authentic to who the character is have been watered down. Going in a new/slightly new direction would be the perfect opportunity to see a more Fleming portrayal. Audiences have shown that heroes/antiheroes can operate in grey/dicey areas and still be a crowd pleaser where there aren't any adverse effects on the bottom line.

    I'm not advocating an R-rated Bond as such but I want a return to a less PC Bond and a character/film that is confident in the story it wants to tell while unashamedly embracing the source material upon which it is based. There's an audience out there for it and more than enough money to be made from it. Bond at the moment isn't the joke it was or at least it was becoming in the 90s, however, a lot more authenticity can be restored to the character and now's the perfect opportunity to take advantage of this recent opening. The last thing EoN should be faced with is for some other studio to make a full blown R rated spy movie that's a box office smash hit. EoN need to get in front and on top of this asap.

    Agree.

    Bond needs to learn a lot from John Wick. Wick proved to audiences you don't need extreme action set pieces to make a captivating action movie. I also wouldn't mind a more R rated Bond film.

    I feel like Bond needs to take a sharp left turn from where SPECTRE went. Even more left than Casino Royale.

    Spectre is a far superior film to John Wick.

    John Wick is superior in every single way imaginable. The end credits of John Wick is a better movie than the entireity of Spectre. The stunt work puts Spectre to shame. Hell, the stunt work puts Bond to shame.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Walecs wrote: »
    the movie felt like an ending chapter for Craig's era (scenes from CR, QOS and SF were in the title sequence, the movie wrapped all three together, all loose ends were tied, the "author of all [Bond's] pain" has been arrested and Bond left MI6 to settle down with Madeleine). I'm not saying there's no way to carry his story on, but there's no reason to. The whole movie really feels like the final chapter.

    I agree. They could find a way to continue but SP definitely felt like it was written as a possible ending to the Craig era imo. And while I loved that film, love Craig as Bond and am on the whole incredibly happy for how his era turned out and thankful for what he did for the series, a fresh start seems infinitely more exciting to me at this point. The prospect of having waited four or five years just to see a film that pointlessly drags out the SP story or (even worse) casually brushes the ending of that film under the carpet completely just to get Craig back for one more doesn't sound very appealing to me. I'd be much happier if they went the soft reboot route and took the films in a fresh, new direction, with lots of new blood (new director, writers, composer, etc, and the only cast member I want to carry over is Wishaw).
    I completely agree.
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