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Rambo: Last Blood (September 20, 2019)

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    It had a couple of entertaining moments but took way too long to get going and essentially all of the best bits were in the trailers, leaving virtually no surprises. Its predecessor entry was leagues better in every sense of the word, in my opinion.
  • LibrarianLibrarian
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Its predecessor entry was leagues better in every sense of the word, in my opinion.

    It's my opinon too.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Agreed. The fourth Rambo is the best overall sequel by quite a margin, too.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Let's hope he has now finally retired "Rambo".

    Any news on Expendables IV? :-?
  • LibrarianLibrarian
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    Only this:
    https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2020/01/29/the-expendables-spin-off/
    Nothing new so far.

    Maybe it's not exactly part IV but it's still a part of "the Expendables" franchise.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    I also found this:

    https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/expendables-star-fourth-movie-happening/
  • LibrarianLibrarian
    edited March 2020 Posts: 317
    Nice.
    I wonder now if they'll turn this spin-off into part IV or they'll do both movies.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited July 2022 Posts: 26,296
    Kirk Douglas fury: Star quit Rambo franchise amid snub that saw his scenes cut
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/kirk-douglas-fury-star-quit-rambo-franchise-amid-snub-that-saw-his-scenes-cut/ar-AAZdtvU?cvid=bd413ca3c62643f0b7777cfac46dfa25&ocid=winp2sv1plus

    Crenna was great though I would have loved to see Kirk Douglas in the role.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I found RAMBO reasonably compelling, and I thought it was a fitting end to the franchise. Last Blood is a cow too milked.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I liked certain aspects of Last Blood and it certainly did not pull any punches. My biggest issue with it is the direction it made the film look cheap, Sly should have directed the film.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    'Last Blood' was awful, as far removed from the original as you can get. 'First Blood' has just been rereleased in the cinema, I still regard it as one of the very best thrillers. I knew that Douglas was originally up for Crennas role, think he would have been great, but he probably would have upstaged Sly!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    I found RAMBO reasonably compelling, and I thought it was a fitting end to the franchise. Last Blood is a cow too milked.
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    I liked certain aspects of Last Blood and it certainly did not pull any punches. My biggest issue with it is the direction it made the film look cheap, Sly should have directed the film.

    I agree 100% Rambo (2008) is a really good film and would have made a great conclusion of Rambo’s story.

    I was excited about Last Blood; on the surface it was a good story but what ended up on the screen was a generic, cheep looking action film that did no justice to the character. In fact it didn’t even seem like Rambo; too often it was Stallone on screen not John Rambo.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I enjoyed Last Blood but I think the 2008 film rounded off the character's story well enough - he needed to go home to find real peace, and that's what he did.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    The excellent 2008 installment should've been a wrap for the series. Last Blood was horrible.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    ‘Rambo' Origins Pic ‘John Rambo' At Millennium Has Noah Centineo In Its Crosshairs To Star
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/rambo-origins-pic-john-rambo-at-millennium-has-noah-centineo-in-its-crosshairs-to-star-the-dish/ar-AA1Kk8xZ?ocid=BingNewsSerp
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    An Idea for if they want to involve Stallone..
    The film opens , at dusk, with a camera slowly flying over a vast plain,, then over an Indian reservation. In the distance we see a campfire surrounded by young members of the tribe. Sitting in front of the fire a lone figure has their attention. The camera approaches him from behind ; it pivots around an, lit by the flickering firelight is Rambo, Sly; he has been living on the reservation following the events of Last Blood

    “ Tell the story about the mean sheriff” says a young woman.
    “ you’ve heard all of those stories; it’s time for the whole story “ says Rambo

    At that point he begins to tell the tale that began when he was a young man ; the camera fades to 1960’s Arizona and we see a young John Rambo…
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    That would register with me @talos7.

    I saw First Blood on its release and I'm actually good with all the Rambo films including Last Blood. I very much appreciate Stallone made it and made it the way he did.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I kind of feel like First Blood is his origin story..? Does he need more explaining than that?
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    First Blood is one of my favourite action thrillers!
    I think they should have left it at that, could easily have done without the sequels ( though Rambo 4 is the best of the rest, I could still live without it, Last Blood was dire!)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 11:27am Posts: 18,794
    Must admit I've never gone near Last Blood, it sounded pretty bad and I didn't really see how it could be a Rambo film. The previous 'last' Rambo film they did before that was decent enough really, and that involved him basically just standing still shooting a massive gun.
    Rambo doesn't suit ageing as well as Rocky did. If you watch First Blood, which is a brilliant film as you say Mathis, and kind of separate in quality from the others, it's kind of clear that Rambo isn't someone who's going to live long enough to get old.
    The two 80s sequels are nothing much to do with the first film really, but work as guilty pleasures. In terms of muscley man shooting big gun I prefer Commando as it at least has a sense it knows how silly it is, most Arnies do really.

    If you haven't seen it, I'd recommend Rebel Ridge as a sort of twist on First Blood. It feels like it's going to be a retread, but the hero's approach and mindset is not at all the same as Rambo's and the film goes in a different direction, but regardless still feels like a grounded, modern take on it to some extent.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    When Last Blood was first announced , despite a silly title, I was looking forward to it; I thought the premise had promise. Ultimately it turned out to be a terrible film ; it looked cheap and was horribly executed.

    I thoroughly enjoyed Rambo (2008) It was a perfect ending for his story, particularly the ending of his finally arriving home.

    One thing that bodes well for this new film is it's director, Jalmari Helander; his film , Sisu, was excellent.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's true, Sisu is a lot of fun. Quite tongue in cheek too, which I guess he won't bring to Rambo, although I wouldn't mind it.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    talos7 wrote: »
    When Last Blood was first announced , despite a silly title, I was looking forward to it; I thought the premise had promise. Ultimately it turned out to be a terrible film ; it looked cheap and was horribly executed.

    I thoroughly enjoyed Rambo (2008) It was a perfect ending for his story, particularly the ending of his finally arriving home.

    One thing that bodes well for this new film is it's director, Jalmari Helander; his film , Sisu, was excellent.

    That may sway me to see it! 'Sisu' was great
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