Live And Let Die vs Tomorrow Never Dies - By the Elements

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  • edited November 2013 Posts: 2,483
    I thought OHMSS had a shot of winning this bout, but had no idea it would do so in a rout, right? OHMSS wins the overall categories tally 11-6, and mashes FRWL in total points 172-117?

    Well, at any rate, the better film wins!

    ;;)

    Next on the agenda--a couple of golden films.

    PS--Congrats on voting honestly and in the spirit of the contest. It's the easiest thing to vote as a partisan of a particular film just because you want to see it win, rather than voting truly for the best elements.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,336
    Can you do Octopussy vs Live And let Die next?
  • Murdock wrote:
    Can you do Octopussy vs Live And let Die next?

    We'll do that one after Goldfinger versus Goldeneye, which we now commence with this post.

    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GF (but just barely!)
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GF
    Main Bond Girl: GE
    Overall Plot: GF
    Dialogue: GF
    Score: GF
    Settings: GF
    Action: GE
    Humor: GE
    Cinematography: GF
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GE
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GE

    GF wins 10-8 although I rate GE much higher. Strange. I didn't think this would ever happen to me. ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,670
    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GF
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GE
    Main Bond Girl: GE
    Overall Plot: GE
    Dialogue: GE
    Score: GE (Sorry, guys, I'm one of the rare few that likes Serra's score).
    Settings: GE
    Action: GE
    Humor: GE
    Cinematography: GF
    Benign Bizarre: GE
    Suspense: GE
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GE
    Ally: GE

    15-3, GE. Surprise surprise.
  • Posts: 6,396
    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GF
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GF
    Main Bond Girl: GE
    Overall Plot: GF
    Dialogue: GF
    Score: GF
    Settings: GF
    Action: GE
    Humor: GF
    Cinematography: GF
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GF
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GE
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,336
    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GE
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GE
    Main Bond Girl: GE
    Overall Plot: GE
    Dialogue: GE
    Score: GE (I have the dignity to admit it too!)
    Settings: GE
    Action: GE
    Humor: GE
    Cinematography: GE
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GF
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GE
  • Posts: 1,497
    PTS: GF
    Title Track: GF
    Title Credits: GF
    Main Villain: GF
    Main Bond Girl: GF
    Overall Plot: GF
    Dialogue: GF
    Score: GF
    Settings: GF
    Action: GE
    Humor: GF
    Cinematography: GF
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GF
    Minor Characters: GF
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GE
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,698
    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GF
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GE
    Main Bond Girl: GF
    Overall Plot: GE
    Dialogue: GE
    Score: GF
    Settings: GE
    Action: GE
    Humor: GE
    Cinematography: GF
    Benign Bizarre: GE
    Suspense: GE
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GE

    Wow, GE wins for me!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,352
    PTS: Goldfinger
    Title Track: Goldfinger
    Title Credits: GoldenEye
    Main Villain: Goldfinger
    Main Bond Girl: GoldenEye
    Overall Plot: Goldfinger
    Dialogue: Goldfinger
    Score: Goldfinger
    Settings: GoldenEye
    Action: GoldenEye
    Humor: Goldfinger
    Cinematography: Goldfinger
    Benign Bizarre: Goldfinger
    Suspense: Goldfinger
    Minor Characters: GoldenEye
    Glamor: Goldfinger
    Henchmen: Goldfinger
    Ally: GoldenEye
  • PTS: Goldfinger
    Title Track: Goldfinger
    Title Credits: GoldenEye
    Main Villain: Goldfinger
    Main Bond Girl: GoldenEye
    Overall Plot: GoldenEye
    Dialogue: Goldfinger
    Score: Goldfinger
    Settings: GoldenEye
    Action: GoldenEye
    Humor: GoldenEye
    Cinematography: Goldfinger
    Benign Bizarre: Goldfinger
    Suspense: Goldfinger
    Minor Characters: GoldenEye
    Glamor: Goldfinger
    Henchmen: GoldenEye
    Ally: GoldenEye
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    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GE
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GE
    Main Bond Girl: GE
    Overall Plot: GE
    Dialogue: GE
    Score: GE
    Settings: GE
    Action: GE
    Humor: GE
    Cinematography: GE
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GE
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GE
    Henchmen: GE
    Ally: GE

    18-1 for GoldenEye. I consider that a sweep as I don't really think the BB category really counts in terms of the quality of the film.
  • Two of my favorite Bond movies:

    PTS: GF
    Title Track: GF
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GF
    Main Bond Girl: GF
    Overall Plot: GF
    Dialogue: GF
    Score: GF
    Settings: GE
    Action: GE
    Humor: GF
    Cinematography: GE
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GF
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GF

    13-4 for Goldfinger. A lot of the matches that went Goldfinger's way (PTS, Villain, Bond Girl, Plot, Dialogue, Suspense) were very close. Tough to beat the standard-setter, though.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    PTS: GE
    Title Track: GF
    Title Credits: GE
    Main Villain: GE
    Main Bond Girl: GE
    Overall Plot: GF
    Dialogue: GF
    Score: GF
    Settings: GF
    Action: GE
    Humor: GF
    Cinematography: GE
    Benign Bizarre: GF
    Suspense: GE
    Minor Characters: GE
    Glamor: GF
    Henchmen: GF
    Ally: GE

    I ended up with a tie. That sounds about right. I prefer GF but they are pretty close in quality in my opinion.
  • pts - goldeneye
    tt - goldfinger
    tc - goldeneye
    mv - goldfinger
    mbg - goldfinger
    op - goldeneye
    dialogue - goldeneye
    score - goldeneye
    setting - goldeneye
    action - goldeneye
    humor - goldfinger
    cinema - goldeneye
    bb - goldfinger
    suspense - goldeneye
    mc - goldfinger
    glam - goldeneye
    henchmen - goldeneye
    ally - goldeneye
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Title Track: Goldfinger
    Title Credits: GoldenEye
    Main Villain: Goldfinger
    Main Bond Girl: GoldenEye
    Overall Plot: Goldfinger
    Dialogue: Goldfinger
    Score: Goldfinger
    Settings: GoldenEye
    Action: GoldenEye
    Humor: Goldfinger
    Cinematography: GoldenEye
    Benign Bizarre: Goldfinger
    Suspense: GoldenEye
    Minor Characters: GoldenEye
    Glamor: Goldfinger
    Henchmen: Goldfinger
    Ally: GoldenEye
  • Well, well, well. We have our first split decision. GF wins the overall categories count 10-8, but Goldeneye takes the point total 123-110. Kind of like Bush vs. Gore back in 2000. Here's how the categories shook out:

    PTS: 8-4 GE
    Title Track: 11-2 GF
    Title Credits: 12-1 GE
    Main Villain: 8-5 GF
    Main Bond Girl: 9-4 GE
    Overall Plot: 7-6 GF
    Dialogue: 8-5 GF
    Score: 9-4 GF
    Settings: 9-4 GE
    Action: 13-0 GE
    Humor: 7-6 GF
    Cinematography: 7-6 GF
    Benign Bizarre: 11-2 GF
    Suspense: 7-6 GE
    Minor Characters: 11-2 GE
    Glamor: 11-2 GF
    Henchmen: 9-4 GF
    Ally: 12-1 GE

    Next up, as per an earlier request, LALD versus OP.
  • LALD vs. OP

    PTS: LALD
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: OP
    Main Bond Girl: LALD
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: LALD
    Settings: OP
    Action: LALD
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: OP
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: TIE
    Main Bond Girl: TIE
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: LALD
    Settings: OP
    Action: LALD
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: OP
  • Posts: 2,400
    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: OP
    Main Bond Girl: LALD
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: OP
    Score: OP
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: OP
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: OP
    Ally: OP

    13-5 for OP.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: LALD
    Main Bond Girl: LALD
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: LALD
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: LALD

    Fairly close but LALD edges out OP 11-7
  • PTS - OP
    TT - LALD
    TC - LALD
    MV - OP
    MBG - LALD
    OP - OP
    DIALOGUE - LALD
    SCORE - LALD
    SETTINGS - OP
    ACTION - LALD
    HUMOR - OP
    CINEMA - OP
    BB - LALD
    SUSPENSE - LALD
    MC - LALD
    GLAM - OP
    HENCH - LALD
    ALLY - OP

    Live and Let Die leads the way by 10 - 8
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: LALD
    Main Bond Girl: OP (tough choice!) I want to say a tie, rally ...
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: LALD
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: OP
  • Posts: 6,396
    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: LALD
    Main Bond Girl: LALD
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: OP
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: LALD
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2013 Posts: 13,352
    PTS: Octopussy
    Title Track: Live And Let Die
    Title Credits: Live And Let Die
    Main Villain: Live And Let Die
    Main Bond Girl: Live And Let Die
    Overall Plot: Octopussy
    Dialogue: Live And Let Die
    Score: Live And Let Die
    Settings: Octopussy
    Action: Octopussy
    Humor: Live And Let Die
    Cinematography: Octopussy
    Benign Bizarre: Live And Let Die
    Suspense: Octopussy
    Minor Characters: Live And Let Die
    Glamor: Octopussy
    Henchmen: Live And Let Die
    Ally: Octopussy
  • Posts: 1,497
    PTS: LALD
    Title Track: LALD - though to it's credit I quite enjoy ATH
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: LALD
    Main Bond Girl: OP
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: OP
    Settings: OP
    Action: LALD - the boat chase alone puts it over the top for me
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD - Guy Hamilton in the early 70's, this one's a no brainer
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: OP
  • PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: OP
    Main Villain: LALD
    Main Bond Girl: LALD
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: LALD
    Settings: OP
    Action: LALD
    Humor: OP
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD (close one)
    Ally: LALD

    10-8 for LALD
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,698
    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: OP
    Main Bond Girl: LALD
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: OP
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamor: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: LALD

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,670
    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD (It's one of my favorite title tracks in the series, if not the favorite.)
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: OP
    Main Bond Girl: LALD (Solitaire is so beautiful, and Seymour still is.)
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: OP
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: OP
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD (By far.)
    Suspense: OP (That bomb scene takes the cake.)
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamour: OP
    Henchmen: OP
    Ally: LALD

    11 - 7, OP.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,698
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Main Bond Girl: LALD (Solitaire is so beautiful, and Seymour still is.)
    Yes...
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Suspense: OP (That bomb scene takes the cake.)
    OHHHHHH YEAH!
    :)>-
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    PTS: OP
    Title Track: LALD
    Title Credits: LALD
    Main Villain: OP
    Main Bond Girl: OP
    Overall Plot: OP
    Dialogue: LALD
    Score: LALD
    Settings: OP
    Action: OP
    Humor: LALD
    Cinematography: OP
    Benign Bizarre: LALD
    Suspense: OP
    Minor Characters: LALD
    Glamour: OP
    Henchmen: LALD
    Ally: LALD

    LALD- 9 OP- 9
    But probably LALD :)
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