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  • edited April 2019 Posts: 19,339
    Now that the person who started the Brexit thread torpedoed his own thread, can the mods please start a new thread dedicated to Brexit?


    You have something to say to me? You’re not even British and I have defended you on here before MOD EDIT: angry comments discussed and apologised for.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    As previously stated, we took that opportunity to go in a politics-free direction for the foreseeable future. It's been proven time and time again that politics don't really work here, much like other threads.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Supported!
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    As previously stated, we took that opportunity to go in a politics-free direction for the foreseeable future. It's been proven time and time again that politics don't really work here, much like other threads.

    Good. No more politics on MI6.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    "Democracy."
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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Very good! :D
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    You have no authority.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    And now we know what C stands for.

    "Crab dance".
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Hello all.
    Hopefully you will all pick up this post. Please offer feedback, as the thread will remain open for a few days or until it descends into spam, whichever comes first ;)

    Anyway, we have become increasingly aware that some of our forum rulings have not been accepted very well in some quarters. We have been accused of being draconian in our moderating duties, and even been told we are running the place like a police state. This is mainly by ex members, but I'm sure current ones hold certain views which may go against our normal rulings.

    As usual the main bug bear is swearing. We have always tried to stamp it out, traditionally because our minimum membership age is 13. We always strived to make this as much a family friendly forum as possible.

    We do however recognise that there is a difference between swearing in an aggressive and hostile manner, and someone offering a film quote with a particularly fruity adjective in it. Therefore we have tried to be reasonable when it comes to moderating the tone of said language.

    The problem is, there are always grey areas, and if we warn someone for persistent swearing they could easily get upset due to how they perceive the tone or meaning of their bad language. This will of course lead to more fall out which we always try to avoid.

    I don't want to waffle on about this, but its a debate we can have between ourselves, and hopefully compromise and move forward. The last thing we want is to see members disappear because they feel unfairly treated, when a message to a mod can resolve all kinds of differences.

    As a result of this we will strive to be relax the way we view any bad language we see. But, if we do request someone to tone it down and they take particular offence please remember you can message one of the mods and we will always be approachable and accommodating.

    It really isn't the end of the world, it's just a bunch of Bond fans having a chat.

    Thanks for your time
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
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    On the topic of swearing, I noticed there is a lot of it, in particular a word that gets much frowned upon here, in the new Daniel Craig interview on the front page, submitted by MI6 Staff. Some of it even bolded. It doesn t bother me, but there is an example of something that could trigger feelings of injustice in those who do like to swear a lot here.
  • I do curse myself occasionally though the less offensive words, though I will be more mindful. Every site has to have its rules or chaos ensues, and a reminder of said rules is never a bad thing.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    On the topic of swearing, I noticed there is a lot of it, in particular a word that gets much frowned upon here, in the new Daniel Craig interview on the front page, submitted by MI6 Staff. Some of it even bolded. It doesn t bother me, but there is an example of something that could trigger feelings of injustice in those who do like to swear a lot here.
    That’s why I did say that quoting a film or in this case an interview can’t be addressed in the same way as someone using it in an abusive manner.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?

    We've reached out to admins with no reply yet.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    NicNac wrote: »
    Hello all.
    Hopefully you will all pick up this post. Please offer feedback, as the thread will remain open for a few days or until it descends into spam, whichever comes first ;)
    Seems to me over the top swearing or just outright offensive language deserve deletion and a warning. Then if it continues, those portions of a post can be deleted outright or the entire post if appropriate. Doesn't need negotiation, just action and the individual is compelled to adjust behavior on the idea they want their ideas to be read and considered versus extinguished. And following bad acts could lead to a ban.

    Beyond swearing when responses get personally heated and/or severely off topic and a warning is given, I support deletion og following posts repeating or responding to the offense. Usually the proper thread is already suggested to get back on subject and continue conversation. As long as the provocative or off-topic posts exist they naturally draw more of the same.

    I also recognize it can be hard to single out mischief-makers and pot stirrers. And singling them out is appreciated.

    Times leading up to the film release on these type forums historically draw sensitive reactions, pushing back on perceived insults or unsupported claims. For anyone it's best to avoid making chronically negative comments on any subject, that goes for new posters alongside mods. Especially in the growing climate, introducing a steady negative drumbeat into discussions goes beyond free speech and quickly becomes boorish behavior.
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  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Thanks @RichardTheBruce . You highlight many of the problems we face.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?

    I've just sent a reminder to the admin and asked for this to be done. It's one button the mods don't have unfortunately.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    NicNac wrote: »
    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?

    I've just sent a reminder to the admin and asked for this to be done. It's one button the mods don't have unfortunately.

    Which is unfortunate considering we have buttons for pretty much everything else:
    • banning;
    • ordering pizza;
    • reserving JamesPage's private jet because grabbing an Uber is, well, a bit much no?;
    • getting Barbara Broccoli on the phone;
    • ...
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?

    I've just sent a reminder to the admin and asked for this to be done. It's one button the mods don't have unfortunately.

    Which is unfortunate considering we have buttons for pretty much everything else:
    • banning;
    • ordering pizza;
    • reserving JamesPage's private jet because grabbing an Uber is, well, a bit much no?;
    • getting Barbara Broccoli on the phone;
    • ...

    But where can we order this pizza? :-?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    JamesCraig wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?

    I've just sent a reminder to the admin and asked for this to be done. It's one button the mods don't have unfortunately.

    Which is unfortunate considering we have buttons for pretty much everything else:
    • banning;
    • ordering pizza;
    • reserving JamesPage's private jet because grabbing an Uber is, well, a bit much no?;
    • getting Barbara Broccoli on the phone;
    • ...

    But where can we order this pizza? :-?

    You can't, sadly. It's a mod's privilege. @NicNac always has a double pepperoni, @Creasy47 prefers anything with extra cheese, @Benny is the one who craves anchovies, @MajorDSmythe wants chips on top and I'll settle for nothing less than a pizza with bacon, garlic and gorgonzola. Now, don't get me started on @Samuel001, @DiscoVolante and @Birdleson... the pizza's they like are--look, let's just say it was a traumatic experience for the lot of us seeing them devour that filth. (I'm still in therapy because of it.)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Enemy of the state
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    Looks delicious to me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Great, now I'm starving.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Great, now I'm starving.

    Good! You know what the doctor said, @Creasy47. "No more greasy for big boy Creasy."

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    How'd you get ahold of my private photos?!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    How'd you get ahold of my private photos?!

    We have people everywhere...
    I do curse myself occasionally though the less offensive words, though I will be more mindful. Every site has to have its rules or chaos ensues, and a reminder of said rules is never a bad thing.

    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns
    I do so too. I believe we're all clever enough to find the means to express ourselves in a colourful way without using some of the more explicit swear words. There's some fun in that. At the same time, I'm glad you agree that we need a few basic rules to keep the forum safe from turmoil.

    We haven't put an auto-censor bot on this, though. We're still people who can assess the general context and tone of a profanity-rich sentence. But even if we concede that no-one was meant any harm, we may still feel that a polite request to tone things down is needed, before things get out of hand.

    As mods, we rarely reprimand or warn or ban; our first intention is always to approach a member with reasonable and friendly requests, not with demands, reproaches or even soft admonishments. What happens next, however, is critical. Sometimes, a member feels backstabbed by us just for being asked to please consider the rules. Sometimes, good-willed advice is misread as us scolding a member for something. Sometimes, digital doors are slammed shut, the mods are called fascists and stuff gets blown out of proportion.

    But let us not forget that we're all guests here. It's only polite that we live by the rules of our hosts. Our job, first and foremost, is reminding people of those rules every once in a while. ;-)
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Anything further to add here folks? If not I need to prise it from the grasp of these spamming mods (although I do love them deeply) and close it until the next time.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 34,963
    Hello mods, just a quick thing. When will the Bond 25 category in this forum be finally changed to No Time To Die?

    It's now been changed.
  • mattjoesmattjoes ...and actor Cesare Danova in the role of "Actor"
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
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    "The front is opening up! I repeat, the front is opening up!"

    ...

    Sorry. Just wanted to get that in before the inevitable close.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Hamburg, near the Atlantic Hotel
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
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    "The front is opening up! I repeat, the front is opening up!"

    ...

    Sorry. Just wanted to get that in before the inevitable close.

    Just when I thought this thread was about moderation...
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