No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    The only thing for me though,is that this quote was January 2017.
    As far as most people were concerned at that time,SP closed off Craig's tenure and he wasn't coming back,so I think they were referring to a new Bond and a new direction.

    Now Craig is back,it kind of makes that comment defunct.

    Craig was always coming back. I think EON have found a way of keeping Bond in the news and the excitement going with the whole will he won't.

    I must have missed that.

    I'm thoroughly bored by EON's cockteasing and wish they'd just shit or get off the pot.

    ashes dear boy, ashes! - Ian Fleming
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Where did these "less personal" comments come from?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited October 2017 Posts: 9,147
    BOND 25

    This time it's not personal.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Where did these "less personal" comments come from?

    Telegraph in March
    Added Wade: “But for sure, ‘Spectre’ felt like it closed off a certain way of doing Bond. And I think whatever happens next will be quite different.” "They also acknowedged long term fans are clamouring for less of the personal"


    “Each time, you’ve got to say something about Bond’s place in the world, which is Britain’s place in the world,” Purvis told the Telegraph last month. “But things are moving so quickly now, that becomes tricky. With people like Trump, the Bond villain has become a reality.”
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.

    @noSolaceleft : is there anything or anyone involved with Bond that you do like? LOL
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    TripAces wrote: »
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.

    @noSolaceleft : is there anything or anyone involved with Bond that you do like? LOL

    Popcorn at the ready..
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    TripAces wrote: »
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.

    @noSolaceleft : is there anything or anyone involved with Bond that you do like? LOL

    In the last two actually there isn't.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    TripAces wrote: »
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.

    @noSolaceleft : is there anything or anyone involved with Bond that you do like? LOL

    In the last two actually there isn't.
    Understandable imho. They aren't for everyone.
  • Posts: 1,162
    You know what really kills me? QoS gave them such a great template for a glorious future complete with an omnipotent adversary and everything else you would imagine a Bond film to have, but they choose to sacrifice at all to give Mendes his washed up Bond.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    You know what really kills me? QoS gave them such a great template for a glorious future complete with an omnipotent adversary and everything else you would imagine a Bond film to have, but they choose to sacrifice at all to give Mendes his washed up Bond.
    It's a pity it was considered a bit lacklustre (and derivative of Bourne) upon release, especially in comparison to its predecessor. That and the long gap perhaps caused them to re-evaluate approach. Nolan nailed it with TDK in the meanwhile and the rest is history.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Quantum of Solace would've been so much better if the story was given some longer pace to breathe and the shaky-cam Bourne influence was abandoned.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Quantum of Solace would've been so much better if the story was given some longer pace to breathe and the shaky-cam Bourne influence was abandoned.
    Completely agree. There is a noticeable improvement around the time Bond enters Austria, when it slows down at the Opera after the quite frenetic start.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Quantum of Solace would've been so much better if the story was given some longer pace to breathe and the shaky-cam Bourne influence was abandoned.
    Completely agree. There is a noticeable improvement around the time Bond enters Austria, when it slows down at the Opera after the quite frenetic start.
    Precisely... only to lose the cool during that shootout in the restaurant and that sad depressive cello music playing over a silent scene with no sound.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    jake24 wrote: »
    According to Archivo007 (who doesn't precise where they have the "info), Ben Cooke will be the stunt coornator in B25 :

    Dan's stunt double on Casino, QOS and Skyfall replaced by Gordon Alexander, Andy Lister and James Embree in Spectre.
    Replacing Gary Powell? Any more info with this, @ggl007?

    You're right. Here is the news: http://bit.ly/2gxZoE1

    Ben Cooke in Bond 25. No Gary Powell.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    You know what really kills me? QoS gave them such a great template for a glorious future complete with an omnipotent adversary and everything else you would imagine a Bond film to have, but they choose to sacrifice at all to give Mendes his washed up Bond.

    100% agreed. And as bondjames said, the 4 year gap did not help either.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 4,619
    You know what really kills me? QoS gave them such a great template for a glorious future complete with an omnipotent adversary and everything else you would imagine a Bond film to have, but they choose to sacrifice at all to give Mendes his washed up Bond.
    WHAT? You should spend some time pondering why Skyfall is UNIVERSALLY regarded a masterpiece compared to the messy QOS.
    bondjames wrote: »
    That and the long gap perhaps caused them to re-evaluate approach. Nolan nailed it with TDK in the meanwhile and the rest is history.
    In the meanwhile? Umm, TDK was released before QOS.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Quantum of Solace would've been so much better if the story was given some longer pace to breathe and the shaky-cam Bourne influence was abandoned.
    Completely agree. There is a noticeable improvement around the time Bond enters Austria, when it slows down at the Opera after the quite frenetic start.

    Bang on when writers strike hit and Haggis didn't want to cross the picket line. QOS final scenes are like a fire at Ikea. Intended ending was Bond driving to Whites home observing him meet with Guy Haynes and executes them both. I wasn't a fan of Dominic Greene as the main villain. His introduction is woeful just hanging around in a fish shack. I still enjoy QOS's place in the series. TOSCA scenes and his time with Mathis are a highlight. I think Giancarlo was excellent as Mathis.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    According to Archivo007 (who doesn't precise where they have the "info), Ben Cooke will be the stunt coornator in B25 :

    Dan's stunt double on Casino, QOS and Skyfall replaced by Gordon Alexander, Andy Lister and James Embree in Spectre.
    Replacing Gary Powell? Any more info with this, @ggl007?

    You're right. Here is the news: http://bit.ly/2gxZoE1

    Ben Cooke in Bond 25. No Gary Powell.
    Interesting. Ben Cooke himself was the stunt coordinator for both the 2010 Bond video games Blood Stone and GoldenEye 007: Reloaded (and its Wii counterpart).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    Quantum of Solace would've been so much better if the story was given some longer pace to breathe and the shaky-cam Bourne influence was abandoned.
    Completely agree. There is a noticeable improvement around the time Bond enters Austria, when it slows down at the Opera after the quite frenetic start.

    Bang on when writers strike hit and Haggis didn't want to cross the picket line. QOS final scenes are like a fire at Ikea. Intended ending was Bond driving to Whites home observing him meet with Guy Haynes and executes them both. I wasn't a fan of Dominic Greene as the main villain. His introduction is woeful just hanging around in a fish shack. I still enjoy QOS's place in the series. TOSCA scenes and his time with Mathis are a highlight. I think Giancarlo was excellent as Mathis.
    Yes, QoS has some very memorable individual scenes. Giancarlo Giannini's Mathis is one of the best allies Bond has had in some time.

    I really am interested in that alternate ending. I think it would have been spectacular and a nice closure and mirror to the ending from CR. The one we actually got wasn't bad either though, and perhaps was more fitting to showcase that Bond wasn't the loose cannon haphazard killer he was made out to be during the film.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I don't think we'll be seeing that alternate ending until extras become a thing again.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I really hope they get back to giving us better extras, instead of featurettes you can find online.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I really hope they get back to giving us better extras, instead of featurettes you can find online.
    I dream of that day.
  • //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).
  • Posts: 1,162
    You know what really kills me? QoS gave them such a great template for a glorious future complete with an omnipotent adversary and everything else you would imagine a Bond film to have, but they choose to sacrifice at all to give Mendes his washed up Bond.
    WHAT? You should spend some time pondering why Skyfall is UNIVERSALLY regarded a masterpiece compared to the messy QOS.

    I already did the pondering and came to the conclusion that most people are very easily gullible by pretensions and an air of grandeur. Just look at yourself.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).

    Look back at few pages and see my post on a Sony 1 film deal and why it makes sense with MGM's current situation.
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    Really upset if Gary Powell is indeed not returning for Bond 25. Bond has been with his family for decades. I have to imagine that, if he isn't returning, it's because of his own busy schedule and he likely recommended his replacement. I'm just not sure the current report is to be taken at face value just yet. Things are only just getting started.
  • //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).

    Look back at few pages and see my post on a Sony 1 film deal and why it makes sense with MGM's current situation.

    That's fine. But we don't *know* whether that's in place or not. Here are the facts:

    --July 24: A Bond 25 release date is announced separately by MGM and Eon.

    --There has been *no announcement* about a Bond 25 distributor since.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    Really upset if Gary Powell is indeed not returning for Bond 25. Bond has been with his family for decades. I have to imagine that, if he isn't returning, it's because of his own busy schedule and he likely recommended his replacement. I'm just not sure the current report is to be taken at face value just yet. Things are only just getting started.
    Is he the descendant of a Bond crew member?
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    @JWESTBROOK What do you mean by "if he is not returning"? He is not returning.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).

    Look back at few pages and see my post on a Sony 1 film deal and why it makes sense with MGM's current situation.

    That's fine. But we don't *know* whether that's in place or not. Here are the facts:

    --July 24: A Bond 25 release date is announced separately by MGM and Eon.

    --There has been *no announcement* about a Bond 25 distributor since.

    Yeah Gary Barber announced that details on distributor would follow. I suspect a verbal agreement has been made enought to lock in a date and get things moving, but could not confirm until i's dotted and T's crossed. Fairly confident it's Sony for one more.
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