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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,330
    Listen to City of Lovers. That will change your mind.
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  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).

    Look back at few pages and see my post on a Sony 1 film deal and why it makes sense with MGM's current situation.

    That's fine. But we don't *know* whether that's in place or not. Here are the facts:

    --July 24: A Bond 25 release date is announced separately by MGM and Eon.

    --There has been *no announcement* about a Bond 25 distributor since.

    Yeah Gary Barber announced that details on distributor would follow. I suspect a verbal agreement has been made enought to lock in a date and get things moving, but could not confirm until i's dotted and T's crossed. Fairly confident it's Sony for one more.

    MGM said July 24 that an announcement on a distributor would come later.

    It has been almost three months later and there's no announcement.

    You may be confident. Maybe you'll be right. But as of Oct. 20, there is no Bond 25 distributor in place. This isn't just a formality.

    Barber said details would follow, but MGM and EON don't have the cash to produce it themselves and for Craig to confirm his return his fee and terms would have been agreed. Therefore they must know their budget and have a funding arrangement in place...everything points to Sony who have stumped up before for their 25% return of net profits.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Murdock wrote: »
    Listen to City of Lovers. That will change your mind.
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    "All you need is love." ;)
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
    Posts: 832
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Having just watched Spider-Man: Homecoming, again, and having had goosebumps every time the film's main theme played around with dramatic emergence, I endorse Michael Giacchino for a Bond gig. The guy deserves it and will be the greatest successor John Barry would have.

    Seconded
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    I love David Arnold and I would count myself as one of his biggest fans (seen him live twice and would go again and again) but to say he is even close to Barry is nuts.

    Barry was unique. There was/is nobody like him.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Shardlake wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    I will list all the possible scenarios that would spell disaster:

    - the return of Blofeld
    - David Arnold hired as composer
    - no third screenwriter polishing the script
    - Sony distributing

    @SirHilaryBray I really hope you are wrong about Sony.

    WHAT ARE YOU TAAAAAALKING ABOUT.
    David Arnold is as good as John Barry and it’s a shame that he hasn’t been working on the last two and it will be a disaster if he is not involved in B25.

    Arnold as good as Barry, continue smoking whatever it is you are puffing on as it must be pretty strong to formulate such an opinion.

    Barry is a one off, a genius likely this world will never see again, possibly a little new to the series are we, PB era fan.

    Some of you Bond fans make me laugh with such comments, do you realise what Barry bought to the series?

    One of the most significant contributors to the legacy of Bond and all that have followed have been playing catch up ever since.

    Go listen to OHMSS or YOLT score and then some of Arnold's efforts and try to even say that seriously.

    Maybe you were joking or you need to make an appointment at the Doctors to get your ears syringed.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You my friend have made my day. Anyone who knows me here knows that
    A) I don’t smoke
    B) I didn’t grow up during brosnan, I grew up during Craig ( and continue to grow?)

    Don’t get me wrong, I have more respect for Barry’s efforts and Arnold is essentially copying Barry half the time, but, what Arnold did with CR and QOS, in particular, is the best sound in film, I think ever, and it’s very Barry sounding so he probably gets some credit too.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,533
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    I will list all the possible scenarios that would spell disaster:

    - the return of Blofeld
    - David Arnold hired as composer
    - no third screenwriter polishing the script
    - Sony distributing

    @SirHilaryBray I really hope you are wrong about Sony.

    WHAT ARE YOU TAAAAAALKING ABOUT.
    David Arnold is as good as John Barry and it’s a shame that he hasn’t been working on the last two and it will be a disaster if he is not involved in B25.

    Arnold as good as Barry, continue smoking whatever it is you are puffing on as it must be pretty strong to formulate such an opinion.

    Barry is a one off, a genius likely this world will never see again, possibly a little new to the series are we, PB era fan.

    Some of you Bond fans make me laugh with such comments, do you realise what Barry bought to the series?

    One of the most significant contributors to the legacy of Bond and all that have followed have been playing catch up ever since.

    Go listen to OHMSS or YOLT score and then some of Arnold's efforts and try to even say that seriously.

    Maybe you were joking or you need to make an appointment at the Doctors to get your ears syringed.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You my friend have made my day. Anyone who knows me here knows that
    A) I don’t smoke
    B) I didn’t grow up during brosnan, I grew up during Craig ( and continue to grow?)

    Don’t get me wrong, I have more respect for Barry’s efforts and Arnold is essentially copying Barry half the time, but, what Arnold did with CR and QOS, in particular, is the best sound in film, I think ever, and it’s very Barry sounding so he probably gets some credit too.

    I agree Arnold is great but Barry is unbeatable. I think Arnold's best score was QOS. Amazing work. PS we must be the same age.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Remington wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    I will list all the possible scenarios that would spell disaster:

    - the return of Blofeld
    - David Arnold hired as composer
    - no third screenwriter polishing the script
    - Sony distributing

    @SirHilaryBray I really hope you are wrong about Sony.

    WHAT ARE YOU TAAAAAALKING ABOUT.
    David Arnold is as good as John Barry and it’s a shame that he hasn’t been working on the last two and it will be a disaster if he is not involved in B25.

    Arnold as good as Barry, continue smoking whatever it is you are puffing on as it must be pretty strong to formulate such an opinion.

    Barry is a one off, a genius likely this world will never see again, possibly a little new to the series are we, PB era fan.

    Some of you Bond fans make me laugh with such comments, do you realise what Barry bought to the series?

    One of the most significant contributors to the legacy of Bond and all that have followed have been playing catch up ever since.

    Go listen to OHMSS or YOLT score and then some of Arnold's efforts and try to even say that seriously.

    Maybe you were joking or you need to make an appointment at the Doctors to get your ears syringed.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You my friend have made my day. Anyone who knows me here knows that
    A) I don’t smoke
    B) I didn’t grow up during brosnan, I grew up during Craig ( and continue to grow?)

    Don’t get me wrong, I have more respect for Barry’s efforts and Arnold is essentially copying Barry half the time, but, what Arnold did with CR and QOS, in particular, is the best sound in film, I think ever, and it’s very Barry sounding so he probably gets some credit too.

    I agree Arnold is great but Barry is unbeatable. I think Arnold's best score was QOS. Amazing work. PS we must be the same age.

    Oh no I take pride in being the youngest member on this forum, what is your age?
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,533
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    I will list all the possible scenarios that would spell disaster:

    - the return of Blofeld
    - David Arnold hired as composer
    - no third screenwriter polishing the script
    - Sony distributing

    @SirHilaryBray I really hope you are wrong about Sony.

    WHAT ARE YOU TAAAAAALKING ABOUT.
    David Arnold is as good as John Barry and it’s a shame that he hasn’t been working on the last two and it will be a disaster if he is not involved in B25.

    Arnold as good as Barry, continue smoking whatever it is you are puffing on as it must be pretty strong to formulate such an opinion.

    Barry is a one off, a genius likely this world will never see again, possibly a little new to the series are we, PB era fan.

    Some of you Bond fans make me laugh with such comments, do you realise what Barry bought to the series?

    One of the most significant contributors to the legacy of Bond and all that have followed have been playing catch up ever since.

    Go listen to OHMSS or YOLT score and then some of Arnold's efforts and try to even say that seriously.

    Maybe you were joking or you need to make an appointment at the Doctors to get your ears syringed.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You my friend have made my day. Anyone who knows me here knows that
    A) I don’t smoke
    B) I didn’t grow up during brosnan, I grew up during Craig ( and continue to grow?)

    Don’t get me wrong, I have more respect for Barry’s efforts and Arnold is essentially copying Barry half the time, but, what Arnold did with CR and QOS, in particular, is the best sound in film, I think ever, and it’s very Barry sounding so he probably gets some credit too.

    I agree Arnold is great but Barry is unbeatable. I think Arnold's best score was QOS. Amazing work. PS we must be the same age.

    Oh no I take pride in being the youngest member on this forum, what is your age?

    Turned 20 last month.
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    I will list all the possible scenarios that would spell disaster:

    - the return of Blofeld
    - David Arnold hired as composer
    - no third screenwriter polishing the script
    - Sony distributing

    @SirHilaryBray I really hope you are wrong about Sony.

    WHAT ARE YOU TAAAAAALKING ABOUT.
    David Arnold is as good as John Barry and it’s a shame that he hasn’t been working on the last two and it will be a disaster if he is not involved in B25.

    Arnold as good as Barry, continue smoking whatever it is you are puffing on as it must be pretty strong to formulate such an opinion.

    Barry is a one off, a genius likely this world will never see again, possibly a little new to the series are we, PB era fan.

    Some of you Bond fans make me laugh with such comments, do you realise what Barry bought to the series?

    One of the most significant contributors to the legacy of Bond and all that have followed have been playing catch up ever since.

    Go listen to OHMSS or YOLT score and then some of Arnold's efforts and try to even say that seriously.

    Maybe you were joking or you need to make an appointment at the Doctors to get your ears syringed.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You my friend have made my day. Anyone who knows me here knows that
    A) I don’t smoke
    B) I didn’t grow up during brosnan, I grew up during Craig ( and continue to grow?)

    Don’t get me wrong, I have more respect for Barry’s efforts and Arnold is essentially copying Barry half the time, but, what Arnold did with CR and QOS, in particular, is the best sound in film, I think ever, and it’s very Barry sounding so he probably gets some credit too.

    I agree Arnold is great but Barry is unbeatable. I think Arnold's best score was QOS. Amazing work. PS we must be the same age.

    Oh no I take pride in being the youngest member on this forum, what is your age?

  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,115
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).

    Look back at few pages and see my post on a Sony 1 film deal and why it makes sense with MGM's current situation.

    That's fine. But we don't *know* whether that's in place or not. Here are the facts:

    --July 24: A Bond 25 release date is announced separately by MGM and Eon.

    --There has been *no announcement* about a Bond 25 distributor since.

    Yeah Gary Barber announced that details on distributor would follow. I suspect a verbal agreement has been made enought to lock in a date and get things moving, but could not confirm until i's dotted and T's crossed. Fairly confident it's Sony for one more.

    MGM said July 24 that an announcement on a distributor would come later.

    It has been almost three months later and there's no announcement.

    You may be confident. Maybe you'll be right. But as of Oct. 20, there is no Bond 25 distributor in place. This isn't just a formality.

    Barber said details would follow, but MGM and EON don't have the cash to produce it themselves and for Craig to confirm his return his fee and terms would have been agreed. Therefore they must know their budget and have a funding arrangement in place...everything points to Sony who have stumped up before for their 25% return of net profits.

    At this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact. Also, there's a different executive regime in place at Sony. Yes, Sony wants Bond. But Sony also wants to improve profits.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    //Wow mate, the whole thread is about speculation. Until EON make announcements nothing is definite that goes without saying.//

    I'd take this a step further. Until there's a distributor in place, a lot is uncertain.

    It would be different if either/or MGM and Eon self-financed Bond 25 and they simply needed to hire a studio to distribute it. But it's likely B25's distributor will be expected to kick in a significant chunk of the production budget. Sony, as we all know, co-financed Skyfall and SPECTRE.

    Until that distributor is in place (and the financing is nailed down), not much is going to happen.

    It has been almost 90 days since the Bond 25 release date was announced and there is still no distributor. Earlier in this thread, some posters were sure there'd be a major announcement on Oct. 5, Global James Bond Day. Didn't happen (except for that one-day T-shirt discount).

    Look back at few pages and see my post on a Sony 1 film deal and why it makes sense with MGM's current situation.

    That's fine. But we don't *know* whether that's in place or not. Here are the facts:

    --July 24: A Bond 25 release date is announced separately by MGM and Eon.

    --There has been *no announcement* about a Bond 25 distributor since.

    Yeah Gary Barber announced that details on distributor would follow. I suspect a verbal agreement has been made enought to lock in a date and get things moving, but could not confirm until i's dotted and T's crossed. Fairly confident it's Sony for one more.

    MGM said July 24 that an announcement on a distributor would come later.

    It has been almost three months later and there's no announcement.

    You may be confident. Maybe you'll be right. But as of Oct. 20, there is no Bond 25 distributor in place. This isn't just a formality.

    Barber said details would follow, but MGM and EON don't have the cash to produce it themselves and for Craig to confirm his return his fee and terms would have been agreed. Therefore they must know their budget and have a funding arrangement in place...everything points to Sony who have stumped up before for their 25% return of net profits.

    At this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact. Also, there's a different executive regime in place at Sony. Yes, Sony wants Bond. But Sony also wants to improve profits.
    I posted an article a few weeks back from 2015 where Babs/Wilson indicate that their relationships at Sony aren't what they once were. Pascal was their main contact from what I know.

    I was wondering if someone could answer a question I posted earlier today. Does anyone know why Craig wasn't announced when the release date announcement was made a few months back? He claimed to have made a decision prior to that release date announcement, so why wasn't his name included in said announcement? It's puzzling. Please don't tell me they wanted to wait for him to announce it himself on Colbert, because that really doesn't make any sense to me.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,017
    It's down to the publicity machine, isn't it? Play things out over time, especially if they plan for a November 2019 release date. Not related to the Colbert appearance. But that's my take on it.
    Nothing sinister.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    That's one take on it. However, if the rationale was consciously to let it 'play out over time' due to the release date being in 2019, then why did he announce just a few weeks later on Colbert?

    There was less than one month between the release date announcement and Craig's appearance where he confirmed his return.

    I'm not suggesting anything sinister, but I do find it quite puzzling, given his comments that he had made a decision a couple of months prior.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,017
    Well, what are the details. I honestly don't know what's out there, but did Craig make his own decision months ago. Then confirm with EON later. Then reveal on Colbert. It's pretty innocuous to me, I admit.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Having just watched Spider-Man: Homecoming, again, and having had goosebumps every time the film's main theme played around with dramatic emergence, I endorse Michael Giacchino for a Bond gig. The guy deserves it and will be the greatest successor John Barry would have.

    Did anyone else notice that the villain's theme sounds like You Know My Name?
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Even if I loved Arnold's work, I probably still wouldn't want him back. Why? Because he is the choice of the producers, and I would prefer the Bond movies to be as director driven as possible.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,330
    After Mendes, It should be EON's choice for Composer.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    In a perfect world, Jóhann Jóhannsson would be the composer of Denis Villeneuve's Bond 25, and Hans Zimmer would score Chris Nolan's Bond 26. ;)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,330
    I'm not familiar with Jóhannsson aside from 2 or 3 samples posted way back when. They were alright. But no to Zimmer.
  • moneyofpropre2moneyofpropre2 France
    edited October 2017 Posts: 850
    ggl007 wrote: »
    You're right. Here is the news: http://bit.ly/2gxZoE1

    So if my google translate have right, there are more Bond 25 news to come today ?

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Well, what are the details. I honestly don't know what's out there, but did Craig make his own decision months ago. Then confirm with EON later. Then reveal on Colbert. It's pretty innocuous to me, I admit.
    So presumably he had an offer on the table which he didn't formally accept at the time of the release date announcement in July, thereby precluding his inclusion in said announcement. He then decided to accept, signed and formally revealed his intentions on Colbert a couple of weeks later.

    If this is in fact the case, then I'm also assuming that his salary and other financial arrangements are funded via EON/MGM and not the distributor, because as far as I'm aware they don't have a distributor yet (and certainly didn't have one in June, when he apparently made his decision by his own admission - i.e. a couple of months prior to his Colbert revelation).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,087
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
    Given how little we really know and how high expectations are these days, I think there's a fair chance we could see some rather extreme behaviour here prior to B25's release, as announcements start rolling in.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,087
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
    Given how little we really know and how high expectations are these days, I think there's a fair chance we could see some rather extreme behaviour here prior to B25's release, as announcements start rolling in.

    Maybe, but not from me. I'm not invested in Bond 25 in the slightest. I'm watching from the sidelines on this one. As far as I'm concerned, they made the mistakes a long time ago, and they are baked in now. Even making it standalone won't do it either. I've gotten myself hyped up for SF and SP, and neither have deviated from the mission statement Craig and Co set out with. In a way, I'm glad Craig is doing a fifth though. I think part of what has been necessary for Bond to come back fighting has been due to how the series seems to run itself into the ground every few cycles. In order for a phoenix to be reborn from the ashes, there have to be ashes.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
    Given how little we really know and how high expectations are these days, I think there's a fair chance we could see some rather extreme behaviour here prior to B25's release, as announcements start rolling in.

    Maybe, but not from me. I'm not invested in Bond 25 in the slightest. I'm watching from the sidelines on this one. As far as I'm concerned, they made the mistakes a long time ago, and they are baked in now. Even making it standalone won't do it either. I've gotten myself hyped up for SF and SP, and neither have deviated from the mission statement Craig and Co set out with. In a way, I'm glad Craig is doing a fifth though. I think part of what has been necessary for Bond to come back fighting has been due to how the series seems to run itself into the ground every few cycles. In order for a phoenix to be reborn from the ashes, there have to be ashes.
    I can completely relate. I'm not all that enthused by what I've heard so far either, but I think you and I could be pleasantly surprised by the outcome precisely because we're not all that invested in this go-around (based on the known information). The good thing about low expectations is that they can normally be exceeded.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,087
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
    Given how little we really know and how high expectations are these days, I think there's a fair chance we could see some rather extreme behaviour here prior to B25's release, as announcements start rolling in.

    Maybe, but not from me. I'm not invested in Bond 25 in the slightest. I'm watching from the sidelines on this one. As far as I'm concerned, they made the mistakes a long time ago, and they are baked in now. Even making it standalone won't do it either. I've gotten myself hyped up for SF and SP, and neither have deviated from the mission statement Craig and Co set out with. In a way, I'm glad Craig is doing a fifth though. I think part of what has been necessary for Bond to come back fighting has been due to how the series seems to run itself into the ground every few cycles. In order for a phoenix to be reborn from the ashes, there have to be ashes.
    I can completely relate. I'm not all that enthused by what I've heard so far either, but I think you and I could be pleasantly surprised by the outcome precisely because we're not all that invested in this go-around (based on the known information). The good thing about low expectations is that they can normally be exceeded.

    Yes, I won't be underwhelmed, that's for sure! I got any disappointments out of the way months ago. The only way is up from here.
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    Posts: 732
    I was over-enthusiastic with SP ... bought 3 movie tickets in advance and have to admit I was let down even there were some excellent things in it.

    But I am happy Craig does one more - because to me he made 3 brilliant Bond movies and I would really be happy if he is sent off on a high note (agree with members here stating he would not do B25 if SP would have received the critical acclaim of CR or SF).

    I hope very much for Felix (and hope I‘m not let down), and for a decent Fleming-based story (as stated very often I would love a MR/OHMSS/YOLT blend).

    So my hopes aren‘t as high as they were prior SP ... but I am excited to see Craig coming back. What I would expect is he plays out his strengths again like he did in his first 2 movies - even I liked SF quite much.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    SeanCraig wrote: »
    What I would expect is he plays out his strengths again like he did in his first 2 movies - even I liked SF quite much.
    This would certainly be the much preferred option from my perspective as well. It would make his return and long run in the role more palatable for me.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 15,818
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
    Given how little we really know and how high expectations are these days, I think there's a fair chance we could see some rather extreme behaviour here prior to B25's release, as announcements start rolling in.

    Maybe, but not from me. I'm not invested in Bond 25 in the slightest. I'm watching from the sidelines on this one. As far as I'm concerned, they made the mistakes a long time ago, and they are baked in now. Even making it standalone won't do it either. I've gotten myself hyped up for SF and SP, and neither have deviated from the mission statement Craig and Co set out with. In a way, I'm glad Craig is doing a fifth though. I think part of what has been necessary for Bond to come back fighting has been due to how the series seems to run itself into the ground every few cycles. In order for a phoenix to be reborn from the ashes, there have to be ashes.

    With the extreme aching for the entire cast of SP to return for an encore performance , 4 years later, to continue a story arc I personally never really cared for, I can't say I've been leaping for joy regarding B25 either.
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is not hired, I will throw the second biggest fit this forum has ever seen.

    That's nothing compared to what I'll do if they don't hire Campbell for the Turner reboot in 2022.
    Given how little we really know and how high expectations are these days, I think there's a fair chance we could see some rather extreme behaviour here prior to B25's release, as announcements start rolling in.

    Maybe, but not from me. I'm not invested in Bond 25 in the slightest. I'm watching from the sidelines on this one. As far as I'm concerned, they made the mistakes a long time ago, and they are baked in now. Even making it standalone won't do it either. I've gotten myself hyped up for SF and SP, and neither have deviated from the mission statement Craig and Co set out with. In a way, I'm glad Craig is doing a fifth though. I think part of what has been necessary for Bond to come back fighting has been due to how the series seems to run itself into the ground every few cycles. In order for a phoenix to be reborn from the ashes, there have to be ashes.

    Let me give you a long bear hug. I know so well, how are you are feeling!
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