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  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    From what I understand seen in the previous report, Ben Cooke is upped from a stunt double for Craig to the stunt coordinator for the whole film? Gary Powell is out?

    Broken by a French tweeter on twitter. Not sure if crossed wires, and what they meant was he is to return as Craig's double.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 1,162
    barryt007 wrote: »
    He always does.
    One thing you cant fault Daniel on is his preparation and dedication once he is committed.

    I find it quite interesting, how many of you comment on him just as you a really knew him.
    All you actually know about him is what he says in interviews ( and he seems to contradict himself quite often ) and what the public relations department lets out.

    The injuries he has sustained during filming of Casino, QOS then Spectre are testament to how much he puts in. All through stunts he choose to undertake himself rather than sit out and let the double do it. Unheard of for the title character, but Cruise made such a big deal over doing his own stunts on MI films I am pleased Craig has stepped up for the franchise by doing the same. I don't hear contradictions, a lot of the time I hear him responding to speculation like "is it true you wrote on Spectre", in which he was hoenst and said "I would call Sam in the middle of the night with ideas, and we would discuss them the next day, I wasn't writing down dialogue if that is what you mean".

    First of all it's absolutely ridiculous to compare Craig's effort's to Cruises.
    Second of all, I very often read these kind of comments and apart from the Train fighting scene in Spectre (btw when we first heard about his injury it was reported that he was hurt when they were shooting the scene where he wants to stop Madeleine to watch the video of her father committing suicide. You know when the bouncer hit his knee with a rod or something. Just saying). I really wonder where exactly did these accidents happen. And why? Watching CR and QoS I don't see him in any of the real tough scenes. At the beginning (the parcour) it's very obvious that just about everything is done by the stuntman. And the part when he's running up the crane he is pulled by cables (embarrassing obviously). In QoS actually all we see him doing is jump on the rooftop and hit the ceiling of the bus.
    Not that I seriously doubt that he hurt himself but could anyone enlighten me in which scenes exactly that happened?
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,138
    Wishaw, Harris, Fiennes, Seydoux, Bautista, Bellucci, Jeffrey Wright and Waltz all have no projects listed for 2019. Furthermore the only projects for release any of them have for 2018 are post production pieces. Considering this is October 2017 it would appear all have been asked to keep 2018/19 free.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 4,619
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    He always does.
    One thing you cant fault Daniel on is his preparation and dedication once he is committed.

    I find it quite interesting, how many of you comment on him just as you a really knew him.
    All you actually know about him is what he says in interviews ( and he seems to contradict himself quite often ) and what the public relations department lets out.

    The injuries he has sustained during filming of Casino, QOS then Spectre are testament to how much he puts in. All through stunts he choose to undertake himself rather than sit out and let the double do it. Unheard of for the title character, but Cruise made such a big deal over doing his own stunts on MI films I am pleased Craig has stepped up for the franchise by doing the same. I don't hear contradictions, a lot of the time I hear him responding to speculation like "is it true you wrote on Spectre", in which he was hoenst and said "I would call Sam in the middle of the night with ideas, and we would discuss them the next day, I wasn't writing down dialogue if that is what you mean".

    First of all it's absolutely ridiculous to compare Craig's effort's to Cruises.
    Second of all, I very often read these kind of comments and apart from the Train fighting scene in Spectre (btw when we first heard about his injury it was reported that he was hurt when they were shooting the scene where he wants to stop Madeleine to watch the video of her father committing suicide. You know when the bouncer hit his knee with a rod or something. Just saying). I really wonder where exactly did these accidents happen. And why? Watching CR and QoS I don't see him in any of the real tough scenes. At the beginning (the parcour) it's very obvious that just about everything is done by the stuntman. And the part when he's running up the crane he is pulled by cables (embarrassing obviously). In QoS actually all we see him doing is jump on the rooftop and hit the ceiling of the bus.
    Not that I seriously doubt that he hurt himself but could anyone enlighten me in which scenes exactly that happened?

    Remind me again how Cruise buggered his foot? Hardly Dan's fault if he's more competent.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,138
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 4,619
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.
    Bellucci and Waltz are not even seriously rumoured. That recent Bellucci rumour is obviously complete rubbish. Maybe all of the actors you listed already have non-Bond-movie-roles lined up for 2019 that are not officially announced yet.

    My bet is that the gang + Leiter + MAYBE Swann will return, but forget about Blofeld, Bellucci's character and Bautista's character.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Why he will be hard for EON to replace, the next actor has to buy in and make it there own. Days of an Actor turning up reading lines, sitting out of stunts and not having any say on wardrobe etc. should be a thing of the past. Craig's laid down the standard, if you want to be Bond speak up and own it.
    I have read this a lot on here over the past year. I tend not to contradict or directly disagree with comments, but on this I will, vigorously.

    I'm not certain of much in life, but I do know Craig will be replaceable. The next actor will make it his own. Nearly all of them have done. I can't guarantee that all of you will like it, but he will deliver and reinvigorate the franchise.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Why he will be hard for EON to replace, the next actor has to buy in and make it there own. Days of an Actor turning up reading lines, sitting out of stunts and not having any say on wardrobe etc. should be a thing of the past. Craig's laid down the standard, if you want to be Bond speak up and own it.
    I have read this a lot on here over the past year. I tend not to contradict or directly disagree with comments, but on this I will, vigorously.

    I'm not certain of much in life, but I do know Craig will be replaceable. The next actor will make it his own. Nearly all of them have done. I can't guarantee that all of you will like it, but he will deliver and reinvigorate the franchise.

    Unless it's this fat pratt :

    james-corden-b2-23209-250.jpg

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    Christopher Nolan should be the next Bond actor. He could play the role with the help of motion capture technology and they could make Bond look just like Fleming envisioned him with some CGI wizardry. :))
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    He always does.
    One thing you cant fault Daniel on is his preparation and dedication once he is committed.

    I find it quite interesting, how many of you comment on him just as you a really knew him.
    All you actually know about him is what he says in interviews ( and he seems to contradict himself quite often ) and what the public relations department lets out.

    That's a pretty smart remark. Indeed, we Bond fans in here sometimes act like we are workin on the set of EON's next Bond film, or, worse, as Craig's/Bond's foster brother :-).
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,138
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.
    Bellucci and Waltz are not even seriously rumoured. That recent Bellucci rumour is obviously complete rubbish. Maybe all of the actors you listed already have non-Bond-movie-roles lined up for 2019 that are not officially announced yet.

    My bet is that the gang + Leiter + MAYBE Swann will return, but forget about Blofeld, Bellucci's character and Bautista's character.

    Waltz's “I don’t know about [playing Blofeld again]." He told the publication. “Nobody knows. It wasn’t talked about, except in the press.”

    He added: “Right now, nobody even knows which studio will produce the next and if Daniel will return. All of that is filed under ‘carry on.’”

    Well we know that Sony is going to distribute it, and Craig's return confirmed there is no more "Carry on".

    As for Bautista the job description put out to casting agents was "Casting has begun for the main assassin, with the search specifically focussed on someone extremely physically fit and over 6' 2". Whoever wins the role will have several altercations with Daniel Craig's 007 throughout the film and also a driving sequence. Former sports athletes will be under consideration along with anyone 'very unusual'. The character has the working name of 'Hinx' (which may change before shooting starts) and is said to be between 30 and 45 years old.The goal is to find the next Jaws a henchman so different to anything that has gone before that they will become instantly iconic in the film series". a re-occurring Henchman is something missing from the series since Sir RM's days.

    EON paid a lot of money for Spectre rights, not to make one film with the org and bin it.

    Considering Bond had Leiter extract Lucia, it would be more likely Bellucci return as part of the story.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    The trick/challenge won't be the first film of the new man. The anticipation and pressure has traditionally been more than enough to ensure it's a killer outing. It will be the second one. The sophomore entry. That's where things can get derailed. I hope EON are aware of this based on the past.

    Only Connery really killed it with his second and third entries (not just in terms of performance, but also in terms of the films) and that is why he remains far and away THE James Bond.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    The thing is @bondjames from a success point of view and this is from someone you well know hates SPECTRE but really liked SF.

    I'm not sure apart from fanboy perspective what needs reinvigorating, yes we here on MI6 bitch and moan (sometimes rightly) but the big picture is that DC has been involved in a hugely successful period for the series and while some us might exaggerate DC's impact I think you are downplaying the effect he's had on the series.

    Dalton might have bought the Fleming but Craig took that gritty darker take and ran with it and fans of TD can try and say he got there first but Tim never had the confidence that Dan showed from the get go.

    I'm not saying his tenure is perfect far from it but you underestimate the chances that the next Bond will look at DC's take in the way that all actors have looked to Connery.

    No I'm not putting him up there with Sean but the actor will be younger and likely there lasting impression of Bond will be his take.

    Nearly every actor that is interviewed about possibly taking more than often says how much they are blown away by Craig and I'll say it again he's changed the type of actor who could be cast and he's changed the way the character is perceived.

    We just happen to live in a bubble where some of us live, sleep and breathe Bond, the details matter a jot to the masses and they have without a doubt embraced Daniel Craig to great degree.

    Please don't make out this will be like who was going to follow Brosnan, things have changed and the next actor will reflect that, he'll more than likely be their blue print of the character even to extent that Connery was to GL, RM, TD & PB.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 4,619
    Well we know that Sony is going to distribute it
    What? Since when do we know that?
    bondjames wrote: »
    . The sophomore entry. That's where things can get derailed. I hope EON are aware of this based on the past.
    MGW and BB don't really need to be aware of this as they will be out of the picture after Bond 25.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,138
    Well we know that Sony is going to distribute it
    What? Since when do we know that?
    bondjames wrote: »
    . The sophomore entry. That's where things can get derailed. I hope EON are aware of this based on the past.
    MGW and BB don't really need to be aware of this as they will be out of the picture after Bond 25.

    Ok I have comment on this before, I do not see a new partner come on board at the end of one Bond Era. As far as I know there is a one movie deal on the table from Sony while MGM/EON mull over the longer terms offers on the table.

    Read this, makes a lot of sense http://www.indiewire.com/2017/04/sony-james-bond-bidding-war-annapurna-1201807300/

    But given MGM’s precarious financial situation (held together by private equity firms), and its continuing bid for a sale, this new distribution agreement will likely be for “Bond 25” only.

    Still, Bond is Bond, and the five studios in contention would love to add a sure-fire hit to their release schedules (particularly Megan Ellison’s very hot Annapurna, which already has an international distribution deal with MGM, beginning with Bigelow’s “Detroit” riots movie). If Ellison could deliver Bigelow as director, that would be a great coup.

    Yet with Sony chairman Tom Rothman on the hot seat in his second year — he’s still in search of a breakout smash — there’s both pressure and pride to keep Bond in the Sony family. Naturally, Sony has the advantage of incumbency, which gives it a definite edge in wooing back MGM and Eon. The studio knows Bond inside out, and has enjoyed great success with MGM, Eon, and Craig.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @Shardlake, I could be mistaken, but I don't think the next actor will look at Craig's take like others looked at Connery's, good though he has been. Given the age of the next man when he takes on the role, I'm certain he will still be influenced by Connery, Moore and Dalton.

    Who said anything about Brosnan? In fact, I'd go so far as to say Craig had an advantage in following Brosnan, for reasons that I shall leave to others to consider. Much of it has to do with the films he was saddled with, rather than the actor.

    I'm not comparing Craig to Dalton either. There are certain elements of Dalton's portryal that I far prefer to Craig's. They are both distinct though.

    I've said this before and I'll repeat it. Connery to me was the 'total package'. He could do everything with incredible effortless style and grace while still being a credible and ruthless killer. He was also a magnetic larger than life screen presence. A true movie star in the making. That is what set film James Bond on the trajectory to legend. The other actors (including Craig) have brought certain aspects of the Connery package and accented elements which are more suited to their personality (in Craig's instance, it's his seriousness, moodiness and intensity). That is, again, one of the reasons why this series has survived Connery imho. It's because each actor to come after has brought an almost exaggerated component of the Connery Bond persona to their portrayal without having that perfect balance that big Sean had. So the next man can always supply what was missing previously, thereby creating interest again.

    I realize you are more impressed by Mr. Craig than I am. You've cited some of his earlier films in the past which I am not familiar with as evidence. I personally like his intensity. He really had that when he was young, but I've not seen it in him in the last 10 years on film (apparently it's still there in theatre, and I can vouch for that in Betrayal).

    What's been missing with Craig which many of the other actors had is that natural elegance, suaveness, style, grace, calm cool and insouciance. I know many say he brought that in SP but I couldn't disagree more. He can't sell that for me in the way a lot of the other actors could, and I really hope he doesn't try to in B25. That is what the next man can bring and that is where he will make his mark. I'm sure of it.
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    @SirHIlaryBray , you speculated a few pages back that you think it's Sony back again. I'm inclined to agree that this is the most likely scenario with Craig back. Like you, I think if it's Warner or someone else it's a brand new take with a new man in the seat.

    Can someone explain to me why, if Craig agreed to come back a few months back, the announcement of the B25 release date didn't include his name? Please don't tell me it was because he could make a big splash on Colbert, because it really wasn't a big splash at all. Couldn't they have just announced it with his name associated with the film, like they did for SP? It's something which I've been wondering about.
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    Before anyone says anything,yes,i know its WIKI,but on the SP page it says : 'A sequel is set for a 2019 release'.

    I don't like the word 'sequel'...makes me nervous re this film.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Of course it's going to be a sequel @barryt007 . I think that goes without saying.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 19,339
    bondjames wrote: »
    Of course it's going to be a sequel @barryt007 . I think that goes without saying.

    I was living in false hope for a standalone or a loose connection to SP....ah well.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Of course it's going to be a sequel @barryt007 . I think that goes without saying.

    I was living in false hope for a standalone or a loose connection to SP....ah well.

    I've already given up hope that this kind of thing is happening in the Craig era. As others have mentioned, it'll likely continue the same story/motif that the prior two had, so I'm not optimistic in that regard. I figure it'll go back to more standalone stories when the new actor takes over.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Of course it's going to be a sequel @barryt007 . I think that goes without saying.

    I was living in false hope for a standalone or a loose connection to SP....ah well.

    I've already given up hope that this kind of thing is happening in the Craig era. As others have mentioned, it'll likely continue the same story/motif that the prior two had, so I'm not optimistic in that regard. I figure it'll go back to more standalone stories when the new actor takes over.

    Deep down I knew...bugger.

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    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.
    That's certainly how I see him. His stock has fallen dramatically since his stint with Tarantino imho. He definitely peaked there.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.
    That's certainly how I see him. His stock has fallen dramatically since his stint with Tarantino imho. He definitely peaked there.

    How dare you ?!!!!!

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  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,138
    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.

    Wishaw has just finished Disney's new Mary Poppins as lead male.

    Fiennes just finished playing Moriarty in Will Ferrell's comedy Sherlock & Watson - Fiennes is always in demand, has been since the English patient.

    Waltz has turned his hand to Directing so explain why not really delved back to acting

    Baustista just did Marvel's Guardian 2 , Blade Runner and the new Marvels Avengers

    Lea has just finished making Drake Doremus new film with Ewan McGregor & Theo James as well as Kursk with Colin Firth.

    Bellucci has just done the Twin Peak reboot.

    If all of the above are not top drawer and the work of in demand actors I don't know what is. Sometimes I feel like you just say polar opposite to stir the pot.


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2017 Posts: 23,883
    If we're talking box office, then Bautista is the one who has done the most significant work in the past two years. I honestly haven't heard of the rest although I'm sure they are going to be reasonably successful efforts, financially speaking.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    bondjames wrote: »
    If we're talking box office, then Bautista is the one who has done the most significant work in the past two years. I honestly haven't heard of the rest although I'm sure they are going to be reasonably successful efforts, financially speaking.

    None of the above struggled for continuous quality work pre Bond, and haven't since Bond. Back to my original point, none of them have been cast in film due for a 2019 release.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    If we're talking box office, then Bautista is the one who has done the most significant work in the past two years. I honestly haven't heard of the rest although I'm sure they are going to be reasonably successful efforts, financially speaking.

    None of the above struggled for continuous quality work pre Bond, and haven't since Bond. Back to my original point, none of them have been cast in film due for a 2019 release.
    Which makes sense of course. Things can change between now and filming start date, including script changes which may preclude their involvement.

    Regarding them not hurting for work, that's to be expected imho. They were all reasonably well known prior to SP.
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    @SirHilaryBray All those actors could already have 3 movies each announced for 2019 and still appear in Bond 25... On the other hand, the fact that they haven't officially signed on for any movie to be released in 2019 doesn't mean anything.

    These are all massive in demand actors, yet none of them have a film with 2019 target release date other than Bond 25 rumoured? when 2019 is 14 months away and None of them are cast for 2019 production .. I say that says more than your seeing from it my dear fellow.

    Be honest with you - they are not serious in demand. In demand maybe, but certainly not serious. They are not in that kind of class. Two years ago Waltz probably was, but these days I gather he is very much seen as an one trick pony.

    Wishaw has just finished Disney's new Mary Poppins as lead male.

    Fiennes just finished playing Moriarty in Will Ferrell's comedy Sherlock & Watson

    Waltz has turned his hand to Directing so explain why not really delved back to acting

    Baustista just did Marvel's Guardian 2 , Blade Runner and the new Marvels Avengers

    Lea has just finished making Drake Doremus new film with Ewan McGregor & Theo James as well as Kursk with Colin Firth.

    Bellucci has just done the Twin Peak reboot.

    If all of the above are not top drawer and the work of in demand actors I don't know what is. Sometimes I feel like you just say polar opposite to stir the pot.


    Again, I didn't say that weren't in demand. Still I just don't think these are those kind of actors who just can't find any spare time in their schedule for a Bond movie. Bautista for example is not that very busy in the movie industry apart from the guardians of the galaxy movies.
    So many of you here are thinking and talking in absolutes. This is not the way to approach things if you want to find solutions or answers or whatever. Absolutes lead to wars of faith, nothing else.
    Just because somebody doubts and asks questions doesn't mean he hates anyone or wishes him doom or whatever.
    It's never the believers, who find answers, since they don't search for them!
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