It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
^ Back to Top
The MI6 Community is unofficial and in no way associated or linked with EON Productions, MGM, Sony Pictures, Activision or Ian Fleming Publications. Any views expressed on this website are of the individual members and do not necessarily reflect those of the Community owners. Any video or images displayed in topics on MI6 Community are embedded by users from third party sites and as such MI6 Community and its owners take no responsibility for this material.
James Bond News • James Bond Articles • James Bond Magazine
Comments
Well that sells is really. All of Craig's outings had a lukewarm reception. Let's tell Craig he's fired. Next.
I am a long term defender of Daniel Craig. I am also a big defender of QOS. But the moment I voiced criticisms of SF is was attacked by people on here as a troll and a 'Brosnan lover' (as if). Some members need to grow up a bit and chill out.
I really enjoyed SP but at the same time can totally see where a lot of the critics are coming from. I mostly disagree with them but it doesn't make my blood boil just to see them share their views.
It's more fun sharing contradictory ideas than everyone just mindlessly agreeing all the time and saying how great everything is.
The fact that absolutely no one has criticized Craig's acting and the fact that despite that you "asked" people here to say how great he was has been already noted here.
IMO, the forum was a much friendlier place each time you left it for a few months in the past because of the clashes you had with other persons.
We had to read here you searching for photos and the biography of a critic who dared to find SPECTRE meh, and to read you proving to us she was a hysterical and ugly feminist with a hidden agenda. How can you think the negativity here is caused by others ?
We needn't go the way of making things personal and insulting one another in general, though. Please keep things on topic and stop attacking one another.
Well said. Yes, I have been lurking for a long time, but followed GG's stats for a long time. He is an outstanding contributor to this forum. Thank you for saying so, Smitty, and thank you GG. I am not sure why my replies are always appearing in the blue box.
I find it tragic, that there are a lot of so called Bond fans, who really celebrate every negative aspect of a film, if it stars a lead actor they don't like.
They are deluded into thinking that if a film was to be a flop, then that actor would have to go, and somehow everything in the future would be to their liking.
What some don't seem to realize is that film making is a serious, and risky financial business, and a major financial flop for a Bond film would more than likely end the franchise, or certainly put it on hold for a long time. Does LTK ring any bells?
Plus, if a film were to fail, and a new lead actor was selected, that doesn't mean the naysayers would automatically like the new selection, plus the fact, the direction of the next film, may be not to everyone's liking anyway.
I absolutely loved Skyfall (although not a huge fan of the 3rd act) and was thrilled when it reached a billion. As such I was anticipating SPECTRE probably more so than any other movie ever. Watching the reviews come out for the film were great at first, but just got worse and worse as some critics slammed it. This kind of worried me a bit, but being in the U.S., I sat back and watched how well it did in the UK at first and was very happy that even it if wasn't as good as Skyfall, it would still at least likely break a billion, especially with China coming so far since 2012.
I've seen SPECTRE 4 times in theaters now, and am seeing it for a 5th with my good buddy who I've seen all of the films since Goldeneye with in theaters for the 2nd time (1st being Thursday opening) later this week. It's a great film, and I am hugely disappointed that it's not going to break a billion, especially with those China numbers. It actually is kind of sad that China has come so far, and SP couldn't break a billion, when Skyfall technically did it without China's help, if you look at the final numbers.
I know it had a few things working against it (France attacks, currency conversions rates etc.) but I think really it's the film itself that ultimately has caused it to not break the billion.
Even though it's a great film, I do have to say there are some problems with it, but what's strange is it's hard for me to put my finger on exactly what the problem was. I guess "pacing" is the easiest way to put it, as the pacing just seems off in the film, especially in the 2nd act, compared to Skyfall that was an absolute thrill ride through that 2nd act. Blofeld/Waltz definitely wasn't as good as he could have been either. The beginning (opening scene) and ending (3rd act + DB5 at the end) are far superior to my than Skyfalls opener and ending, so it's even more confusing to me why I still feel Skyfall is superior.
I even did a break down, scene by scene of the two movies, rating each scene on a 1-5 scale to try and determine the problem.
To my surprise, both movies ended up with the same score hah, yet I still feel Skyfall is pretty superior to SPECTRE. Not sure what it is.
Anyways, I could go on for pages, but just wanted to pop in and join the community.
For those interested in the breakdown I did, I'll paste it here. I'm sure most will not agree (everyone seems to love the train scene/fight, I was meh on it)
Scale 1-5
1 = Meh
5 = Amazing
Opening Scene
Skyfall - Turkey Chase = 2
SPECTRE - Mexico City Long Shot/Chopper = 4
MI6/M Interaction
Skyfall - Back From Death, Fitness/Phsych Tests, Judi Dench M, Meeting Mallory = 3
SPECTRE - Mallory/Moneypenny = 2
Q
Skyfall - National Gallery = 3
SPECTRE - Q's Workshop = 4
Act 2 Begins
Skyfall - Shanghai Jellyfish = 5 (AMAZING SCENE!)
SPECTRE - Rome, Bellucci, and Secret Meeting = 3
Act 2 Continues
Skyfall - Macau Casino & Love Boat = 2
SPECTRE - Austria, Pale King, Swann, & Plane vs Cars = 3
Moving Along
Skyfall - Island Rats = 4
SPECTRE - Tangier L'American & Train = 1
Act 2 Concludes
Skyfall - London Subway & Public Inquiry = 4
SPECTRE - Morocco Lair & Torture = 2
Act 3
Skyfall - Scotland Mansion = 2
SPECTRE - London MI6 Sprint = 3
Finishy
Skyfall - THIS IS THE END = 2
SPECTRE - BMT-216A = 5
Skyfall - 27 = MUCH better middle part of movie
SPECTRE - 27 = much better beginning and end
While I find GG a somewhat overpowering presence when it comes to his defense of anything Craig, he is a knowledgeable fellow who does say interesting stuff. But that goes for a lot of people here.
You are a troll if you come from Sweden/Norway and have certain features. You cannot call a Brit a German either (even if that came close in 1941).
Shall I leave forever then? I actually agree with you. It's better if I leave forever, instead of returning...after a few weeks break.
It's the same old story for me :-). In here, on my work, during my studies. I didn't graduate, I have no single paper. I can't keep my job. Usually after 9 months I get fired or moved to a different department. At university I was impossible to work with in projects and team research. As a young kiddo at highschool I was bullied to death.
I am 33 now. I think it's better if I'm completely gone. You know? Hence why I lock myself up all day after work behind this computer. But even there....at the tiniest place I feel happy....even there the same happens.
It's better if I go. Could you perhaps message me on [email protected] and remind me every once in a while that I should...stay away from this forum @Suivez_ce_parachute ? It would be greatly appreciated.
If we worry about what one person says/thinks about us, and that opinion drives us to leave, we've begun to lose the plot. The spats between members is getting old, and if people aired grievances in a mature and professional manner instead of pointing fingers like a child and whining like one after they got yelled at by the mods or other members, this would be a much more harmonious place to be.
I've never gotten the reason behind fights between members. Honestly, what is the damn point? If it gets to the stage where you just can't get along with another member for whatever reason, just don't quote them in posts and address them only when you have to in forum discussions, in a professional manner. It isn't hard.
Leave and you will damage my calm....
#-o
I'm actually.......crying at the moment. And it's not because of you. But it's because of the notion that there are people in here who think the forum is better off with someone being absent here permanently.
Please don't call this 'amateurish drama'. It's just a fact in this society. Not everyone blends in perfectly. Sometimes with very sad end results. But that's nature. My presence is 'overpowering' to some, and even unwanted by some. I also know how the board of moderators think of me.....
So it's better to realize that. I'm also tired of myself to be honest. Very very tired. So here you go. Another reason to leave. Don't feel bad about it.
You are forbidden to leave.
Sorry. That's final.
I give this a mod's stamp of approval. You leaving is against the rules.
Thanks! and yea I figured most would disagree on the train scene. Everyone I know says the fight was awesome. I just personally am not a huge fan of fist fights in films. This just seemed like two dudes going at it on a train, while destroying everything in their path. The SF fist fight however (at the end of the Shanghai "Jellyfish" scene) was amazing to me. All done in one long shot and very well choreographed, against the dark shadowy backdrop of the night, and didn't go on for too long.
The PTS in SF wasn't bad per se, certainly better than QoS' PTS, but just didn't have anything amazing to me. Chasing on a bike, the CAT on the train, fist fight on the train. Nothing too stand out to me, although the part where he drives the bike into the wall and flips over onto the train was hilarious.
Yea, the editing is what gets me. It's so fast, and mixed with a bit of that shaky cam, I actually have to look away from the screen every time I watch it.
Love the opening shot over the lake as well and Arnold's score.
Dammit, the whole opening is actually excellent. Far better than SF.