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Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited January 2022 Posts: 45,489
    mtm wrote: »
    I think they all pass the time effectively enough, I don't think any are properly terrible. But for me Salvation is just about something else really, and the silly gags in T3 cheapen it a lot (and I usually like silly gags!).
    But I'm sure we all agree that only 1 & 2 are the only properly good films in the series.

    I liked Terminator when it came out, but it has aged badly. I found it awful on my last watch. Always thought Judgment Day was the best of the bunch, and it had some truly groundbreaking effects, but that hasn t aged so well either. The dialogue is pretty bad.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Not sure what you mean there; I rewatched both in lockdown I think and they were as good as ever.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    They're both brilliant. The stop-motion stuff at the end of the first film certainly doesn't look great (and probably never looked great), but it doesn't take a lot away from the film overall as you're always heavily invested in it.

    Every time I rewatch the first film I'm truly baffled that someone thought Jai Courtney was an acceptable replacement for Michael Biehn in Genisys. Leagues apart in presence and class.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    I liked 1 and 2 didn't like 3 and loved the Sarah Connor Chronicles one day I will see 5
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited January 2022 Posts: 13,892
    The first two are excellent. T2 was the Casino Royale of the series. Great music too. Tahnee and Tryanglz are in my 80s playlist!

    The stop-motion of the T-800 adds to its creepy factor as it moves unnaturally. I often have dreams of a T-800 chasing me. Not sure what that symbolizes.

    I remember buying a Rage magazine in 1991 with Arnie's half T-800 face on the cover and the Terminator 2 show bag which I think had a mask and M16 or similar.

    T3 has some memorable moments, like when the machines go online and a small HK turns down the hallway after them. That's an eerie moment, but a little annoying how they hang around so long and wait for it to come back. Surely they'd move like buttered pigs!

    Quite enjoy Salvation. That one T-600 with the mini gun that gets trapped under the train wheels and the bike getting hot-wired to GnR. The factory scene with Arnie is pretty cool too. Hoped to see the future war as it appeared in '84/91 though: mostly night-time scenes with blue lighting and lots of lasers! Incognito machines alerting the German Shepherds and whatnot.

    I watched a bit of Sarah Connor Chronicles when it aired - don't know why I didn't stick with it - but worth another look.

    Agree on Jai Courtney, nothing like Reese! Actually, that's pretty much all I could think about while watching Genisys. Also, there was something off about their costumes and overall look in this film - maybe not enough wear and tear on the clothes during action scenes.

    Didn't bother watching the last one - the trailer told me all I need to know. Maybe I will get to it one day?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    The first two are fantastic and the only two I ever bother to revisit these days. T3 also has some solid moments, particularly in its earlier action sequences, but loses its consistency as the film progresses. Beyond that, the rest of the series is pretty much pure garbage to me and I've only seen those installments once. I might need a rewatch of Salvation, only saw it the once when it was released in theaters, but I wasn't crazy about it at the time.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,928
    The ending of T3 is quite strong, but up until that point it doesn’t really have a good reason to exist (so that strong ending comes as a bit of a surprise as the film didn’t really show any balls up to that point), as watchable as it is.
    I can’t remember who the director is, but he didn’t seem to have a firm hold of the tone of the thing.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Salvation doesn't get the credit it is due IMHO. Well directed, well acted, it looks terrific, fantastic action, awesome music, ultimate CGI Cameo....
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    mtm wrote: »
    Is that just because you’re more familiar with T2?
    And yes Salvation tries to dig into the backstory and finds there’s not much interesting there, for my money. Terminator is a simple high concept idea about a robot coming back in time to kill its enemy: that’s the idea and it’s great. What is less interesting is the idea of a war in the future.

    I've seen them each multiple times so I'm not sure it's familiarity so much as it is rewatchability. I appreciate T2 for all it does well (especially the extended version with Biehn in it), but it's not a "throw on at any time" kind of film for me.
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Salvation doesn't get the credit it is due IMHO. Well directed, well acted, it looks terrific, fantastic action, awesome music, ultimate CGI Cameo....

    Terminator Genisys (creepy voice): "I could be speaking to my own reflection..."
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
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    Jonathan Mostow directed T3. He also directed Breakdown, one of my favorite movies.

    I prefer T2 to T1. T1 is a near-horror film; I like T2's tone better. The extended cut has some good scenes, like the T-1000 "scanning" Connor's bedroom with his hands.
  • RyanRyan Canada
    Posts: 692
    I saw the extended cut of T2 first, and at a young age, so it's the only version of the film I've ever been able to watch. It feels incomplete to me otherwise!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited January 2022 Posts: 23,265
    Breaking News...

    Arnie involved in car accident.
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
    edited February 2022 Posts: 1,394
    The directors cut of Salvation is an improvement on the theatrical cut.More violence and a nice shot of Moon Bloodgoods tits.

    Nothing can be done about Sam Worthingtons wooden acting though.

    It’s interesting how the trailers of both Salvation and Genisys gave away massive plot twists about who was an actual Terminator in disguise.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 23,265
    2 Goats Walk Into a Gym - The Arnold and Ronnie Workout

    These two are awesome.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Introducing Arnold Intelligence (A.I.)

  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited November 2023 Posts: 23,265
    Terminator: The Anime Series | Official Announcement | Geeked Week '23 | Netflix
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,525
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Terminator: The Anime Series | Official Announcement | Geeked Week '23 | Netflix

    Okay, I'm somewhat intrigued.
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