No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Given how exhausted he seems after shooting one of these, I'd also be shocked if he signed on for another two, back-to-back or not.

    He has also claimed to have wanted out from the moment he signed up. SP presents the perfect opportunity to walk away, and allow some fresh blood to be injected into the role.
    That's very true. My gut tells me he's done but all the stories out there contradict that. Confusing. The only reason he would come back (imho) is if it's to help Babs. I sincerely feel he's moved on from this role.

    Regarding 'back to back': as I mentioned earlier, that's not what this is necessarily about. It could just be a commitment to a forthcoming two picture interconnected duology. They don't have to be filmed together.
    You're delusional.
    Surely we're all entitled to our wishes and hopes, in lieu of hard facts. We can't all be clandestinely 'in the know' now can we?

    Why don't you enlighten us. Is this a back to back? Is it Sony again? Come on, don't hold back now.
    Warner Brothers and Yann Demange will be directing.
    Thank you. I appreciate that.
    You're welcome, would you like the title next or plot?
    The title and plot were already revealed a few days back here weren't they (shortly after the Warner/Demange leaks)? Looking forward to your confirmation on that too of course.
    He's definitely trolling, mate. If you're referring to the whole Shatterhand debacle, that has been debunked.
    I know. Just playing along, and looking forward to the announcement whenever that may be (I'm not holding my breath for August/September).
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    bondjames wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Given how exhausted he seems after shooting one of these, I'd also be shocked if he signed on for another two, back-to-back or not.

    He has also claimed to have wanted out from the moment he signed up. SP presents the perfect opportunity to walk away, and allow some fresh blood to be injected into the role.
    That's very true. My gut tells me he's done but all the stories out there contradict that. Confusing. The only reason he would come back (imho) is if it's to help Babs. I sincerely feel he's moved on from this role.

    Regarding 'back to back': as I mentioned earlier, that's not what this is necessarily about. It could just be a commitment to a forthcoming two picture interconnected duology. They don't have to be filmed together.
    You're delusional.
    Surely we're all entitled to our wishes and hopes, in lieu of hard facts. We can't all be clandestinely 'in the know' now can we?

    Why don't you enlighten us. Is this a back to back? Is it Sony again? Come on, don't hold back now.
    Warner Brothers and Yann Demange will be directing.
    Thank you. I appreciate that.
    You're welcome, would you like the title next or plot?
    The title and plot were already revealed a few days back here weren't they (shortly after the Warner/Demange leaks)? Looking forward to your confirmation on that too of course.
    He's definitely trolling, mate. If you're referring to the whole Shatterhand debacle, that has been debunked.
    I know. Just playing along, and looking forward to the announcement whenever that may be (I'm not holding my breath for August/September).
    Ah, phew!
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    jake24 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Given how exhausted he seems after shooting one of these, I'd also be shocked if he signed on for another two, back-to-back or not.

    He has also claimed to have wanted out from the moment he signed up. SP presents the perfect opportunity to walk away, and allow some fresh blood to be injected into the role.
    That's very true. My gut tells me he's done but all the stories out there contradict that. Confusing. The only reason he would come back (imho) is if it's to help Babs. I sincerely feel he's moved on from this role.

    Regarding 'back to back': as I mentioned earlier, that's not what this is necessarily about. It could just be a commitment to a forthcoming two picture interconnected duology. They don't have to be filmed together.
    You're delusional.
    Surely we're all entitled to our wishes and hopes, in lieu of hard facts. We can't all be clandestinely 'in the know' now can we?

    Why don't you enlighten us. Is this a back to back? Is it Sony again? Come on, don't hold back now.
    Warner Brothers and Yann Demange will be directing.
    Thank you. I appreciate that.
    You're welcome, would you like the title next or plot?
    The title and plot were already revealed a few days back here weren't they (shortly after the Warner/Demange leaks)? Looking forward to your confirmation on that too of course.
    He's definitely trolling, mate. If you're referring to the whole Shatterhand debacle, that has been debunked.
    Correct. The only firm things I know are that Craig is doing 2 more back to back and an announcement for late August early September.
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    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25
    Apparently.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Craig will be Bond in Bond 25

    I kinda hope so. I don't want the next era of Bond in the hands of P+W. As long as WB gets distribution, that sets us up for a Nolan Bond film in future. I'll be happy with that.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    @timmer , here's a thread I put up a few years back that includes usage of the short story titles and plot points in the films (though the main focus is on the novels):

    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/8785/which-film-adaptations-are-the-most-faithful-to-the-fleming-novel-or-short-story/p1

    You'll note that a bit of 007 IN NEW YORK was used at the end of QOS.

    What's the connection with 007 on NY?
    I'd have to do refresh read?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    timmer wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    @timmer , here's a thread I put up a few years back that includes usage of the short story titles and plot points in the films (though the main focus is on the novels):

    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/8785/which-film-adaptations-are-the-most-faithful-to-the-fleming-novel-or-short-story/p1

    You'll note that a bit of 007 IN NEW YORK was used at the end of QOS.

    What's the connection with 007 on NY?
    I'd have to do refresh read?
    Bond tracking down a woman (Solange) and telling her that her boyfriend is dragging her into a honeypot and/or is a double agent.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    He's not tracking down Solange, Solange is a separate woman he plans to meet with while in New York. The target of the assignment is unnamed I think.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I really do need to revisit that short story.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    shamanimal wrote: »
    I have to ask .. why is everyone talking about Madelaine Swan coming back? In almost all the other Bond films he ends up with a girl, who is gone by the next movie without explanation. Why couldn't the happen in the next one?

    Because the Criag films are unique. They have tied themselves into a knot of shitty continuity
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Knots can be undone.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    Not only will we get news late August, we will also know if Quantum is full of it. ;)
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    I've got a few contacts myself but they're not high enough to know much yet, or so they say. Hmm maybe time to get some better leakers. Will contact the WH.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
    I predicted the announcement last month just because it would line up when they announced spectre. My opinion is Craig will give a consensus after Logan Lucky is over and done with
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    shamanimal wrote: »
    I have to ask .. why is everyone talking about Madelaine Swan coming back? In almost all the other Bond films he ends up with a girl, who is gone by the next movie without explanation. Why couldn't the happen in the next one?

    Because he left the service for her at the end of the movie. This time it's different.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
    I predicted the announcement last month just because it would line up when they announced spectre. My opinion is Craig will give a consensus after Logan Lucky is over and done with
    Very reasonable analysis and conclusion. I concur.

    You're also correct that the 'release date' announcement in July coincides perfectly with when the announced SP's release date in 2013. The only difference this time is that they have to get the director lined up (they knew it would be Mendes in 2013).

    I believe they will announce distributor, director and lead actor all at once.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    bondjames wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
    I predicted the announcement last month just because it would line up when they announced spectre. My opinion is Craig will give a consensus after Logan Lucky is over and done with
    Very reasonable analysis and conclusion. I concur.

    You're also correct that the 'release date' announcement in July coincides perfectly with when the announced SP's release date in 2013. The only difference this time is that they have to get the director lined up (they knew it would be Mendes in 2013).

    I believe they will announce distributor, director and lead actor all at once.
    Not sure about director, only actor and distributor.

  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    echo wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    I have to ask .. why is everyone talking about Madelaine Swan coming back? In almost all the other Bond films he ends up with a girl, who is gone by the next movie without explanation. Why couldn't the happen in the next one?

    Because he left the service for her at the end of the movie. This time it's different.

    MI6's reaction to Bond "coming back" for the second time

  • mattjoesmattjoes Me lleva el chanfle
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    Brian Blessed for Bond #7:

    "I have a reservation. MY NAME IS BOND, JAMES BOND!!!!!!!111111"
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 3,315
    peter wrote: »
    I'm not sure we can assume Craig is dictating the start of productions on these films? I thought, up until very recently, that distribution was holding up the start of B25? And the long hiatus between QoS and SF also seemed out of DC's control?...

    So, you may be tired of DC in the role, gentlemen, but bashing him for holding up productions of the Bond films seems wholly unfair.
    Sure, it's been recorded that the production of Skyfall was delayed for several months in 2010-11 due to the bankruptcy and delayed sale of studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer with the production being officially suspended on 19 April 2010. There's no disputing that as that was the press release from producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson, for the film, then known as 'Bond 23'. Which brings me to Bond 25 and lack of clarification. The only announcement we got at the end of Bond 24 was that Craig was unhappy in the role - wrist-slashing and that it would "only be for the money" and that "all I want to do is move on" comments springs to mind.

    Since then it's been pretty much radio silence from the producers, other than saying they still were hopeful of Craig returning. Still rumors continued to persist that Craig was done with Bond until his comments about having the "best job in the world". Sure, I bet it is. What other job does an employer give you long sabbaticals and rewards you with an eye-watering mega bucks contract after saying such disparaging remarks about it? Try it in your own workplace @peter - just as a fun exercise.

    I have no doubt that the continued MGM partnership fiasco has a huge part to play in Bond 25's delay - alongside the uncertainty of whether Craig will commit. But why didn't producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson release a similar press release about the reasons for the Bond 25 delay as they did for Skyfall? The only thing I can recall reading was that Barbara Broccoli was currently in production on some movie called "Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool," starring Jamie Bell and Annette Bening, and according to a certain tabloid, a source close to Broccoli, said the producer was planning on producing two other projects before jumping back into Bond. "It will give her time to work out a script and try to convince Daniel [Craig] to maybe return," the source told the tabloid.

    Also @peter, why didn't Craig himself come out and say he wasn't sure about when the next Bond film would be made due to the uncertainty of its distributor and that he was up for another? This is hardly classified information that would jeopardize a nation or break a studio deal? It wouldn't have taken him more than five seconds to set the record straight. Personally, I'm not "bashing him" for the film's delay, I'm targeting the producers for not having the cajones to find a replacement and making a proper announcement. I couldn't give two figs about "Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool" as I'm sure the majority of other Bond fans don't either, or the other slated vanity projects for that matter. And to think, dear old Harry Saltzman got internal grief over his other side projects from Cubby, and now his daughter is doing the exact same thing to his beloved franchise.

    So far, I've read nothing about Bond 25 to yet get excited about. The long hiatus hasn't helped.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    bondjames wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
    I predicted the announcement last month just because it would line up when they announced spectre. My opinion is Craig will give a consensus after Logan Lucky is over and done with
    Very reasonable analysis and conclusion. I concur.

    You're also correct that the 'release date' announcement in July coincides perfectly with when the announced SP's release date in 2013. The only difference this time is that they have to get the director lined up (they knew it would be Mendes in 2013).

    I believe they will announce distributor, director and lead actor all at once.

    Wait they still dont have a distributor?
    Is it looking like Sony will come back or will it be Warner Brothers or something
  • Further reinforcing the fact that the past partnership between EON/Sony had been positive. Is this their ticket in securing a Bond 25 deal?

    Sony Pictures Classics confirms acquisition of Annette Bening starrer ‘Film Stars Don’t Die in Liverpool

    http://deadline.com/2017/08/annette-bening-film-stars-dont-die-in-liverpool-sony-pictures-classics-distribution-deal-1202136294/



  • RC7RC7
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    bondjames wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
    I predicted the announcement last month just because it would line up when they announced spectre. My opinion is Craig will give a consensus after Logan Lucky is over and done with
    Very reasonable analysis and conclusion. I concur.

    You're also correct that the 'release date' announcement in July coincides perfectly with when the announced SP's release date in 2013. The only difference this time is that they have to get the director lined up (they knew it would be Mendes in 2013).

    I believe they will announce distributor, director and lead actor all at once.
    Not sure about director, only actor and distributor.

    You said it was Demange on the previous page. Keep up.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 11,425
    Wonder whether Felix will make an appearance in B25. Jeffrey Wright is due a return IMO. Would be nice to see him back.
  • RC7RC7
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Wonder whether Felix will make an appearance in B25. Jeffrey Wright is due a return IMO. Would be nice to see him back.

    Yeah, would like to see Felix again.

  • Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Wonder whether Felix will make an appearance in B25. Jeffrey Wright is due a return IMO. Would be nice to see him back.

    Yeah, would like to see Felix again.

    Count me in for that. Good idea.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    RC7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I thought @QuantumOrganization predicted the first announcement that came last month? If so he must know something about the second one coming.
    I predicted the announcement last month just because it would line up when they announced spectre. My opinion is Craig will give a consensus after Logan Lucky is over and done with
    Very reasonable analysis and conclusion. I concur.

    You're also correct that the 'release date' announcement in July coincides perfectly with when the announced SP's release date in 2013. The only difference this time is that they have to get the director lined up (they knew it would be Mendes in 2013).

    I believe they will announce distributor, director and lead actor all at once.
    Not sure about director, only actor and distributor.

    You said it was Demange on the previous page. Keep up.

    How dare you question the oracle's credibility!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @bondsum, I have no answers to your questions. I don't know what's going on in Craig's head. I was just pointing out that actual delays seem to be out of his control.

    And if the producers want to wait for an actor, or a director, that's absolutely their right. I don't have a say in that, one way or the other. They know what's going on behind the scenes. I don't.

    I also can't get in DC's head and surmise why he said what he said about the wrist-slashing comment, other than to say: it sounded like an ill-timed joke, by an actor who just finished a nine month shoot, which he came out of with a blown knee that required surgery.

    I personally didn't find it a funny, but I never once took it seriously either. Say what you want about Craig, but he wasn't trying to sabotage his, or his fellow cast and crew's, work on the film. My guess it was a joke from a guy who was tired.

    Unfortunately it's the quote heard around the world now, because people delight in the negative. The entire thing's been blown out of proportion. But, when the time comes, and if he is still Bond, it will be coming like a steam train, he will have to answer for it.

    Personally, I could care less. I love him in the role and welcome him back, as an admirer of his work in the role.

    But that's just my opinion. I understand all those who want the change; most of what they have said is reasonable and makes perfect sense. I just don't park myself in that camp. I enjoy DC as Bond immensely, and would have no problem seeing him suit up for one or two more films-- especially if we get a director who brings him full circle and delivers him back to his gritty performance (after all, I'm guessing any filmmaker taking on B25 looks at CR as being the template of this Bond era; SF was, and is, a Sam Mendes film, but CR is a Bond film, and best exemplifies what can be done with the character).
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