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  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,533
    I'd prefer The Death Collector over Shatterhand.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Remington wrote: »
    I'd prefer The Death Collector over Shatterhand.
    Sounds like a sequel to this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bone_Collector
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,293
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Since Cary is of both Asian and Scandinavian heritage, it would be nice to see both reflected in Bond 25.

    About time we have one of the Skarsgård's, or possibly Mikael Persbrandt in a Bond film. Make it happen, Cary!
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,505
    I think Cary is being exceptionally tight-lipped. Three and a half months out to filming a huge franchise film, he certainly knows who the big bad is in his story. He knows the ending, the beginning, plot point one, mid-point, plot point two, climax and resolution. He's mapped out the twists and turns.

    The only thing I'd take as an honest answer: He's doing what any good writer/director worth his salt would do: massaging the script before digging into the action (which is opposite to the M:I films where they decide on action set-pieces and build a story around that (and perhaps why I forget about these films so easily; the story element is very secondary to action)). This is a good indicator to all those fans that think story should come first.

    I also believed he's truthful in saying there will be some great locations.

    Before Cary was hired, I assumed the new writers would amalgamate the DNA from the P&W and Hodge scripts.

    Now, and perhaps based on the way CF chats about B25, I get the sense he couldn't help but really create his own imprint on the story (with assists to P&W), and wanted to stay away from any bad mojo that Hodge and Boyle may have left behind.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    Yes to all of that, @peter.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Seconded.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    peter wrote: »
    I think Cary is being exceptionally tight-lipped. Three and a half months out to filming a huge franchise film, he certainly knows who the big bad is in his story. He knows the ending, the beginning, plot point one, mid-point, plot point two, climax and resolution. He's mapped out the twists and turns.

    The only thing I'd take as an honest answer: He's doing what any good writer/director worth his salt would do: massaging the script before digging into the action (which is opposite to the M:I films where they decide on action set-pieces and build a story around that (and perhaps why I forget about these films so easily; the story element is very secondary to action)). This is a good indicator to all those fans that think story should come first.

    I also believed he's truthful in saying there will be some great locations.

    Before Cary was hired, I assumed the new writers would amalgamate the DNA from the P&W and Hodge scripts.

    Now, and perhaps based on the way CF chats about B25, I get the sense he couldn't help but really create his own imprint on the story (with assists to P&W), and wanted to stay away from any bad mojo that Hodge and Boyle may have left behind.

    Love it, Peter.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited November 2018 Posts: 4,400
    Personally, I'm in the camp that wants a more personal and emotionally-driven Bond film.

    A generic mission doesn't suit Daniel's skillset. You need to make it personal and give him some dramatic meat. His most memorial turns as Bond have been driven by this. Whether it be his internal struggle with killing or loosing M and Vesper. Craig excels when given real dramatic material.

    If you acknowledge the fact that it would have been almost 14 years since CR and that Craig is 50 now, I think Fukunaga is envisioning an arc which sees Bond go from the rookie in CR to the old vet.

    I'm certain they'll lean more towards Logan. If that's the case, then I am seriously excited.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,979
    peter wrote: »
    I think Cary is being exceptionally tight-lipped. Three and a half months out to filming a huge franchise film, he certainly knows who the big bad is in his story. He knows the ending, the beginning, plot point one, mid-point, plot point two, climax and resolution. He's mapped out the twists and turns.

    The only thing I'd take as an honest answer: He's doing what any good writer/director worth his salt would do: massaging the script before digging into the action (which is opposite to the M:I films where they decide on action set-pieces and build a story around that (and perhaps why I forget about these films so easily; the story element is very secondary to action)). This is a good indicator to all those fans that think story should come first.

    I also believed he's truthful in saying there will be some great locations.

    Before Cary was hired, I assumed the new writers would amalgamate the DNA from the P&W and Hodge scripts.

    Now, and perhaps based on the way CF chats about B25, I get the sense he couldn't help but really create his own imprint on the story (with assists to P&W), and wanted to stay away from any bad mojo that Hodge and Boyle may have left behind.

    Agreed. That's also true of a few Bond films as well.

    What's so weird is that Mendes did one Bond film where story took precedence over action, and the other, the opposite.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,113
    As for Christoph Waltz, he is always dancing around the truth. He's some of his many 007 stories.

    https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/christoph-waltz-game-to-return-for-bond-25-but-only-if-daniel-craig-joins-him/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/bond-25-christopher-waltz-blofeld-return-a8025901.html

    https://nerdist.com/christoph-waltz-claims-hes-not-the-head-of-spectre-in-new-bond-film/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32204332/christoph-waltz-denies-rumours-hes-playing-james-bond-supervillain-blofeld

    https://metro.co.uk/2016/01/04/christoph-waltz-has-agreed-to-return-for-two-more-bond-movies-only-if-daniel-craig-does-too-5598801/

    If anything, wait until the final movie. With continuity being a big key in DC's Bond, and this being his final movie, there will be some returns. Just look at Mr. White, after how poorly QOS was received.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,293
    Nothing would be surprising in the DC era at this point. Blofeld returning? Wouldn't be surprising at all. The difference between Mr. White and Blofeld in the DC era though, is that the former is a well written/presented character, and the latter isn't.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,505
    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    I think Cary is being exceptionally tight-lipped. Three and a half months out to filming a huge franchise film, he certainly knows who the big bad is in his story. He knows the ending, the beginning, plot point one, mid-point, plot point two, climax and resolution. He's mapped out the twists and turns.

    The only thing I'd take as an honest answer: He's doing what any good writer/director worth his salt would do: massaging the script before digging into the action (which is opposite to the M:I films where they decide on action set-pieces and build a story around that (and perhaps why I forget about these films so easily; the story element is very secondary to action)). This is a good indicator to all those fans that think story should come first.

    I also believed he's truthful in saying there will be some great locations.

    Before Cary was hired, I assumed the new writers would amalgamate the DNA from the P&W and Hodge scripts.

    Now, and perhaps based on the way CF chats about B25, I get the sense he couldn't help but really create his own imprint on the story (with assists to P&W), and wanted to stay away from any bad mojo that Hodge and Boyle may have left behind.

    Agreed. That's also true of a few Bond films as well.

    What's so weird is that Mendes did one Bond film where story took precedence over action, and the other, the opposite.

    A good point. I think it's because SP was in such a mess, story-wise, this was the only route they could take to meet their deadline. Unfortunately, the action crew they had in place were not equipped to design set-pieces that would mask and overwhelm the script/story's weaknesses (like M:I have in place-- action is the star, and that's how their crew is built).

    I have to predict that CF's story/execution will soar above SP (and, because of this guy's relaxed confidence, will this Bond film enter the stratosphere of great Bond films??? As Hamlet would ask: That is the question...).
  • shamanimalshamanimal
    Posts: 623
    I don't think the next film will be a 'Spectre sequel' in any way. I think it'll acknowledge it, and the previous three films, but will work as a stand alone.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,034
    There's kind of a noisy rhythm to the Craig Bond era.

    Loved It - Casino Royale
    Hated It - Quantum of Solace (later redeemed)
    Loved It - Skyfall
    Hated It - Spectre

    So I expect love for BOND 25.

  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,293
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    There's kind of a noisy rhythm to the Craig Bond era.

    Loved It - Casino Royale
    Hated It - Quantum of Solace (later redeemed)
    Loved It - Skyfall
    Hated It - Spectre

    So I expect love for BOND 25.

    For me it's loved it, loved it, hated it, hated it more than any film I've seen in recent years… Hopefully we'll get a "loved it" this time around!
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,505
    shamanimal wrote: »
    I don't think the next film will be a 'Spectre sequel' in any way. I think it'll acknowledge it, and the previous three films, but will work as a stand alone.

    This can be a stand-alone, BUT themes 007 faces in 25, are perhaps re-visited in a full-circle kinda way; that the preaching of M in Royale, and his lessons learned, can now be explored, but, not as a rookie, but a seasoned 00-agent..
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,034
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,113
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,270
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?

    Weaker James Bond films are still great entertainment as far as I’m concerned.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,721
    FoxRox wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?

    Weaker James Bond films are still great entertainment as far as I’m concerned.

    Amen.

    Diamonds are forever, die another day, the man with the golden gun and spectre would be near the bottom of the list for me...and yet - doesn't that sound like a hell of a lot of fun to kick back and watch?!
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,270
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?

    Weaker James Bond films are still great entertainment as far as I’m concerned.

    Amen.

    Diamonds are forever, die another day, the man with the golden gun and spectre would be near the bottom of the list for me...and yet - doesn't that sound like a hell of a lot of fun to kick back and watch?!

    Those are 4 of my bottom 5! And yeah I’d much rather sit around watching those than doing many other things. Just kicking back to any Bond film with some snacks is my ultimate passtime.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,113
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    As for Christoph Waltz, he is always dancing around the truth. He's some of his many 007 stories.

    https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/christoph-waltz-game-to-return-for-bond-25-but-only-if-daniel-craig-joins-him/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/bond-25-christopher-waltz-blofeld-return-a8025901.html

    https://nerdist.com/christoph-waltz-claims-hes-not-the-head-of-spectre-in-new-bond-film/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/32204332/christoph-waltz-denies-rumours-hes-playing-james-bond-supervillain-blofeld

    https://metro.co.uk/2016/01/04/christoph-waltz-has-agreed-to-return-for-two-more-bond-movies-only-if-daniel-craig-does-too-5598801/

    If anything, wait until the final movie. With continuity being a big key in DC's Bond, and this being his final movie, there will be some returns. Just look at Mr. White, after how poorly QOS was received.

    P.S. EON didn't wait 50+ years to use Blofeld and Spectre and then just throw them away after one film.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
    Posts: 1,680
    Shouldn't have made us wait nearly five years for a follow up to that story
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 13,034
    Carried away by the gale of the world. Their only excuse.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    I wouldn't mind a female or dual villian for Bond25 may be Irma bunt will try to help blofeld escape from prison to become new author of his pain. And a Dual henchmen as well like diamonds are forever. It's been a long time since we have female Villian and henchmen.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730

    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    There's kind of a noisy rhythm to the Craig Bond era.

    Loved It - Casino Royale
    Hated It - Quantum of Solace (later redeemed)
    Loved It - Skyfall
    Hated It - Spectre

    So I expect love for BOND 25.




    Wait a second, so for me Craig’s films have been

    Great
    Great
    Okay
    Bad

    Does that mean Bond 25 will be terrible?
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited November 2018 Posts: 5,767
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Sorry, I had actually moved on to another article, and that’s what I was referencing. Here it is:

    https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/bond-25-director-cary-fukunaga-talks-007-181030

    Where he’s basically saying that some traditions must be followed. Some limitations are an enhancement; so it eases my mind in terms of Bond dying, Bond neutered, or other drastic potential mistakes.
    Ah, I see, thanks @Birdleson. Well, Fukunaga certainly knows how to formulate comforting Theory.


    FoxRox wrote: »
    Cary seems to be the right choice based on his words. Perhaps Boyle/Hodge did not follow the right traditions. ....
    In which case Fukunagas words could be taylored to smooth the waves caused by the Boyle misunderstanding.


    jake24 wrote: »
    The most interesting part of that interview is that B25 will follow the events of the last four films.
    He mentions character arc, whatever that´s supposed to be in the Craig era, not Events. So I Interpret it as Bond appearing a bit different from the last film, as he did the films before, and going through some character challenge throughout the film.

    I find it likeable and rather suiting for Bond that he was a Snowboarder and wanted to be a fighter Pilot. But I don´t quite understand why filmmaking is a backup when your eyes get bad? Not that it would Show so far. Or is it just that as a fighter Pilot he can´t wear glasses and as a filmmaker he can?

  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    For me it would be

    CR- Great
    QOS- Terrible
    SF- Okay
    SP-Good
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    edited November 2018 Posts: 5,767
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Nothing would be surprising in the DC era at this point. Blofeld returning? Wouldn't be surprising at all. The difference between Mr. White and Blofeld in the DC era though, is that the former is a well written/presented character, and the latter isn't.
    They´d just Need to write him well in the film they want to put him in.


    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Such a bloody shame she was exchanged for the admittedly not bad at all Sherryll Crow and didn´t sing at least three Bond title Songs.


    peter wrote: »
    shamanimal wrote: »
    I don't think the next film will be a 'Spectre sequel' in any way. I think it'll acknowledge it, and the previous three films, but will work as a stand alone.

    This can be a stand-alone, BUT themes 007 faces in 25, are perhaps re-visited in a full-circle kinda way; that the preaching of M in Royale, and his lessons learned, can now be explored, but, not as a rookie, but a seasoned 00-agent..
    That would actually be quite intelligent. So far Craig´s Bond doesn´t seem to have learned the lesson.


    MaxCasino wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?
    No, we also want a really good film on top of it. Greedy, yes, but that´s the way it is ;-).


    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?

    Weaker James Bond films are still great entertainment as far as I’m concerned.

    Amen.

    Diamonds are forever, die another day, the man with the golden gun and spectre would be near the bottom of the list for me...and yet - doesn't that sound like a hell of a lot of fun to kick back and watch?!
    I don´t consider the former three to be weak.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Blofeld0064 wrote: »
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/mgm-reference-bond-25-on-investment-call-181117

    MGM's latest comments on bond 25 in their latest investment call.

    Treasured evergreen franchise. I like that.
    Major_Boothroyd wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    So I... LOVED IT, Loved It, Loved It, Loved It.

    To each his own. But I'm thinkin' we'll all be lovin' the next one.

    That's the way to look at it. At least we're getting some more James Bond! Isn't that what we all want?

    Weaker James Bond films are still great entertainment as far as I’m concerned.

    Amen.

    Diamonds are forever, die another day, the man with the golden gun and spectre would be near the bottom of the list for me...and yet - doesn't that sound like a hell of a lot of fun to kick back and watch?!

    Absolutely!
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