No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 5,812
    thank you @CraigMooreOHMSS ... I didn't exactly love the last film, but, like you I've never disliked any of Craig's performances either. I think this hate has gone a little wild-fire, fuelled by tabloid gossip of Craig having temper tantrums.

    One of our members posted a long list of very renowned directors and actors Craig has worked with-- not one has a bad word to say (just the opposite, in fact). You'd think if the guy was a douche, a few of those people would have leaked something.

    I have also said that ppl in the industry love the guy. I'm presently working with a man that worked with him on multiple occasions as a second unit/stunt team, and his people love him; an industry member of this site who no longer comments here (because he was verbally kicked and called a liar) knows people who have also worked with DC and admire him as a man and as an actor.

    The only ones calling him a diva are some papers like The Sun or the Mirror-- and haters on this site gobble it up...

    Deadline, which has consistently broken news on Bond (and has been correct), has never reported this bad behaviour....

    Industry people praise him.

    And, maybe there's a reason why Babs loves him-- because, apart from his sardonic humour that's purposefully misread so there are headlines tomorrow-- he actually cares about the legacy of Bond, and his role in that legacy.
  • Posts: 5,673
    I actually love it that Craig is always being criticised only to prove everyone wrong constantly. It's his thing by now. The more you bitch about him, the greater he is. So please be free to extend him all of your hate (to the members with vitriol towards the gentleman), he'll only prove himself to be awesome. That's the Craig I know.

    And @Peter, you're right, on all accounts. Cheers mate.
  • Posts: 15,566
    Univex wrote: »
    I haven't read every article of the latest developments, but has the Russian character been described as an oligarch? Just curious.
    No, I don't think so.

    Thanks! An oligarch Russian villain would make sense. It will be interesting to see what kind of character this Russian will be.
  • RC7RC7
    edited August 2018 Posts: 10,487
    Univex wrote: »
    I actually love it that Craig is always being criticised only to prove everyone wrong constantly. It's his thing by now. The more you bitch about him, the greater he is. So please be free to extend him all of your hate (to the members with vitriol towards the gentleman), he'll only prove himself to be awesome. That's the Craig I know.

    And @Peter, you're right, on all accounts. Cheers mate.

    A fair point. The childish cries of ‘I wish he’d just be Bond!’ are amusing. He was, is and continues to be, Bond. Get over yourselves.

    EDIT: The funniest thing I’ve noticed recently are those lauding SP as the perfect swan song, having consistently ridiculed it. It really is like being in my daughter’s nursery. We can see you!
  • Posts: 10,539
    I’ll never understand all the Craig hate. His run hasn’t been perfect, but he’s brought so much to the table as James Bond. Personally, I think his first 3 Bond films are awesome, with SP being the only real disappointment. I’m going to remain cautiously optimistic that his last one can be another great one.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 5,673
    Spectre had story problems, it was badly written and poorly executed. But it will always be the Bond film that pushed my expectations to the fullest and was more fun to follow in production. Every piece of info, casting, photo, press conferences and all, it was all perfect. All except the film itself. But the production, man, it was wonderful. Monica Bellucci being in it, the cars, ... Well, everything except the music, that was awful on all accounts. Then the first trailer came along, with that ohmss theme going on. All great. The film itself was a disappointment. But mostly because of the story.

    All and all, the Craig era so far as been wonderful. I bet that if Thomas Waldek made a trailer with the four films, we would be quite aware of their greatness.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 559
    I might not have liked all of the material he's been working with, but I never disliked any of Craig's performances.

    He's terrific in CR and QOS, giving very energetic and nuanced performances.

    I thought he was coasting through the last two.

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Nice to see more Craig supporters stepping up on here.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 9,144
    It's funny what's seized on to damn Craig.

    The slit the wrist comment is a prime example. Every time I hear that cited I'm reminded of a remark Craig made to the press after the success of Casino Royale, claiming he'd stopped working out because he "didn't want to be known as the fit Bond."

    I've never faulted him for that.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 4,473
    peter wrote: »
    I don't get a one-note tortured Bond from Craig, IMHO. We have an arrogant rookie in the first film who gets dealt some useful blows and learns something about himself-- and the game he's in, which is humbling, and devastating in equal measures.

    QoS sees a man on a mission, with one scene, ONE, where he shows how f***ed-up he is.

    SF, he's betrayed by his mentor (he heard her order), and he has to overcome that to see she made the right choice...

    SP-- I don't get where, in this film, he's tortured-- other than physically (where he recovers in no-time, unfortunately). But he's a man married to his job at the beginning, who seemingly leaves it at the end...

    Craig delivered four, unique perspectives from the one man he was playing. I'd say he was quite varied.

    Agreed on these points. Also, QoS is misunderstood by some as a revenge film. The key to the entire Bond character in that film is the very last line. (And it's one of the best lines in the franchise.)
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    I’m with you guys. Craig’s Bond was extremely varied and we’ve gotten to see all sorts of sides to him. QOS isn’t really a revenge film - it’s just a film about Bond continuing after a very painful loss. It’s sort of connected to the plot, but not in a way that makes the film feel too distracting or personal. My only issue with Craig at all is that I think he is sometimes a bit too lighthearted in SP compared to his other films; it doesn’t quite fit in as well sometimes. That’s something of a script issue probably. But for the most part, he has been quite consistent and been an amazing James Bond - IMO, the best since Connery. I think some haters may come around about it when we get our next Bond actor...
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’ll never understand all the Craig hate. His run hasn’t been perfect, but he’s brought so much to the table as James Bond. Personally, I think his first 3 Bond films are awesome, with SP being the only real disappointment. I’m going to remain cautiously optimistic that his last one can be another great one.
    That's a fair opinion, delivered maturely and without taking veiled jabs at those who may disagree with you.

    I like CR and SF. I don't mind QoS, but I don't like as much as other members here. Craig gives an excellent performance in it, which fits the tone of the film. I still think his best performance by far was in CR, which was made for him. Sadly, it was too good a film to start a tenure on and he's been chasing it ever since.

    In terms of swansongs, I've commented previously that I think SP would be a good note to go out on, despite my dislike for that film - especially given how it ties it all together. Sure, it was done hamfistedly, but I think technically it's a far better film than DAF or AVTAK. Furthermore, as I noted prior to his announcement of return, going out on a somewhat mediocre entry like that helps the new guy to establish himself quicker, and I'm all about the continued success of this franchise - more than I am about any one actor.

    I don't see his run as being special personally. I think he's been a decent Bond, but I still far prefer Sean and Rog, as well as Tim (he's moved up to my #3 spot). Craig's interpretation has never hit all the notes I would like, but I've been accepting of it. What choice do I have? Also, with a good script, he can be reasonably good.

    I don't deny that I am longing for a change however, as he's been around for what seems like an eon (forgive me..) now. Whenever I hear of things that can potentially further delay his desired 'high', I get upset because it means having to wait longer.

    I was ok with Boyle as director but not entirely enthused. Now I just want them to get on with it and give us something worth the wait. If they must get creative to allow him to exercise his acting chops and position himself for his post-Bond career, then so be it. Whatever you want Babs. I draw the line at any radical concepts that could make it more difficult for the franchise to move forward quickly (such as this idiotic rumoured death idea), or that result in further delays.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Anyone care to guess when we’ll hear who the director will be? I think sooner than later, possibly this week.
  • Posts: 5,812
    Univex wrote: »
    I actually love it that Craig is always being criticised only to prove everyone wrong constantly. It's his thing by now. The more you bitch about him, the greater he is. So please be free to extend him all of your hate (to the members with vitriol towards the gentleman), he'll only prove himself to be awesome. That's the Craig I know.

    And @Peter, you're right, on all accounts. Cheers mate.

    I agree with your assessment, as well, @Univex ... In the end, like the film, or no, Craig delivers as 007.

    P
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,547
    talos7 wrote: »
    Anyone care to guess when we’ll hear who the director will be? I think sooner than later, possibly this week.
    I'd be surprised if we don't here anything by early September.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    I don't get a one-note tortured Bond from Craig, IMHO. We have an arrogant rookie in the first film who gets dealt some useful blows and learns something about himself-- and the game he's in, which is humbling, and devastating in equal measures.

    QoS sees a man on a mission, with one scene, ONE, where he shows how f***ed-up he is.

    SF, he's betrayed by his mentor (he heard her order), and he has to overcome that to see she made the right choice...

    SP-- I don't get where, in this film, he's tortured-- other than physically (where he recovers in no-time, unfortunately). But he's a man married to his job at the beginning, who seemingly leaves it at the end...

    Craig delivered four, unique perspectives from the one man he was playing. I'd say he was quite varied.

    Agreed on these points. Also, QoS is misunderstood by some as a revenge film. The key to the entire Bond character in that film is the very last line. (And it's one of the best lines in the franchise.)

    It's great.
    SF was pompous crap (no other was this pseudo maudlin).
    SP was fun nonsense (like YOLT. Not a bad thing imo).

    It's like life- we start out with grand intentions and leave with simple comfort.

  • Posts: 5,812
    echo wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    I don't get a one-note tortured Bond from Craig, IMHO. We have an arrogant rookie in the first film who gets dealt some useful blows and learns something about himself-- and the game he's in, which is humbling, and devastating in equal measures.

    QoS sees a man on a mission, with one scene, ONE, where he shows how f***ed-up he is.

    SF, he's betrayed by his mentor (he heard her order), and he has to overcome that to see she made the right choice...

    SP-- I don't get where, in this film, he's tortured-- other than physically (where he recovers in no-time, unfortunately). But he's a man married to his job at the beginning, who seemingly leaves it at the end...

    Craig delivered four, unique perspectives from the one man he was playing. I'd say he was quite varied.

    Agreed on these points. Also, QoS is misunderstood by some as a revenge film. The key to the entire Bond character in that film is the very last line. (And it's one of the best lines in the franchise.)

    yep!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 4,473
    bondjames wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’ll never understand all the Craig hate. His run hasn’t been perfect, but he’s brought so much to the table as James Bond. Personally, I think his first 3 Bond films are awesome, with SP being the only real disappointment. I’m going to remain cautiously optimistic that his last one can be another great one.
    That's a fair opinion, delivered maturely and without taking veiled jabs at those who may disagree with you.

    I like CR and SF. I don't mind QoS, but I don't like as much as other members here. Craig gives an excellent performance in it, which fits the tone of the film. I still think his best performance by far was in CR, which was made for him. Sadly, it was too good a film to start a tenure on and he's been chasing it ever since.

    In terms of swansongs, I've commented previously that I think SP would be a good note to go out on, despite my dislike for that film - especially given how it ties it all together. Sure, it was done hamfistedly, but I think technically it's a far better film than DAF or AVTAK.

    If Babs is the one responsible for the bad of the Craig era, she's also responsible for the good. In choosing Craig, and in getting the rights to and making CR, she and MGW were able to attract some of the best talent in front of and behind the camera in the entire series.
  • Goldeneye0094Goldeneye0094 Conyers, GA
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Anyone care to guess when we’ll hear who the director will be? I think sooner than later, possibly this week.

    It has to be either this week or next otherwise I will very worried
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    echo wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’ll never understand all the Craig hate. His run hasn’t been perfect, but he’s brought so much to the table as James Bond. Personally, I think his first 3 Bond films are awesome, with SP being the only real disappointment. I’m going to remain cautiously optimistic that his last one can be another great one.
    That's a fair opinion, delivered maturely and without taking veiled jabs at those who may disagree with you.

    I like CR and SF. I don't mind QoS, but I don't like as much as other members here. Craig gives an excellent performance in it, which fits the tone of the film. I still think his best performance by far was in CR, which was made for him. Sadly, it was too good a film to start a tenure on and he's been chasing it ever since.

    In terms of swansongs, I've commented previously that I think SP would be a good note to go out on, despite my dislike for that film - especially given how it ties it all together. Sure, it was done hamfistedly, but I think technically it's a far better film than DAF or AVTAK.

    If Babs is the one responsible for the bad of the Craig era, she's also responsible for the good. In choosing Craig, and in getting the rights to and making CR, she and MGW were able to attract some of the best talent in front of and behind the camera in the entire series.
    That's certainly true, but it is CR that remains the high water mark of this tenure. That film was delivered by a journeyman, and without any big name talent in front or behind the camera in other areas either (except competent and charismatic, but relatively unknown European actors). They would be well placed to remember that.
  • Posts: 5,812
    Perhaps I missed something, but I haven't seen any pro-Craig people take a veiled jab at anyone who disagrees with them. In fact these posters seem to be the more apologetic of their opinions-- that they can see the faults in his tenure, BUT, they like him and his portrayal.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 6,064
    I’m bringing my Daughter to school in London on September 8 , if they don’t have it sorted out by then I might have to go in and handle it myself. :D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    There have been several comments here over the past few days criticizing members by name and also commenting in general about attitudes on this forum, as if there is some sort of hysteria or cancer here. That's not how I see it. There are just members stating their preferences either way, which is their right.

    By all means express 'your' opinion, but it's not necessary to criticize those who you disagree with. It adds nothing to the conversation.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 6,064
    bondjames wrote: »
    There have been several comments here over the past few days criticizing members by name and also commenting in general about attitudes on this forum, as if there is some sort of hysteria or cancer here. That's not how I see it. There are just members stating their preferences either way, which is their right.

    By all means express 'your' opinion, but it's not necessary to criticize those who you disagree with. It adds nothing to the conversation.

    Well said. The anonymity of internet sometimes blunts civility.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited August 2018 Posts: 4,473
    bondjames wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’ll never understand all the Craig hate. His run hasn’t been perfect, but he’s brought so much to the table as James Bond. Personally, I think his first 3 Bond films are awesome, with SP being the only real disappointment. I’m going to remain cautiously optimistic that his last one can be another great one.
    That's a fair opinion, delivered maturely and without taking veiled jabs at those who may disagree with you.

    I like CR and SF. I don't mind QoS, but I don't like as much as other members here. Craig gives an excellent performance in it, which fits the tone of the film. I still think his best performance by far was in CR, which was made for him. Sadly, it was too good a film to start a tenure on and he's been chasing it ever since.

    In terms of swansongs, I've commented previously that I think SP would be a good note to go out on, despite my dislike for that film - especially given how it ties it all together. Sure, it was done hamfistedly, but I think technically it's a far better film than DAF or AVTAK.

    If Babs is the one responsible for the bad of the Craig era, she's also responsible for the good. In choosing Craig, and in getting the rights to and making CR, she and MGW were able to attract some of the best talent in front of and behind the camera in the entire series.
    That's certainly true, but it is CR that remains the high water mark of this tenure. That film was delivered by a journeyman, and without any big name talent in front or behind the camera in other areas either (except competent and charismatic, but relatively unknown European actors). They would be well placed to remember that.

    Best talent doesn't necessarily mean best known.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    echo wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’ll never understand all the Craig hate. His run hasn’t been perfect, but he’s brought so much to the table as James Bond. Personally, I think his first 3 Bond films are awesome, with SP being the only real disappointment. I’m going to remain cautiously optimistic that his last one can be another great one.
    That's a fair opinion, delivered maturely and without taking veiled jabs at those who may disagree with you.

    I like CR and SF. I don't mind QoS, but I don't like as much as other members here. Craig gives an excellent performance in it, which fits the tone of the film. I still think his best performance by far was in CR, which was made for him. Sadly, it was too good a film to start a tenure on and he's been chasing it ever since.

    In terms of swansongs, I've commented previously that I think SP would be a good note to go out on, despite my dislike for that film - especially given how it ties it all together. Sure, it was done hamfistedly, but I think technically it's a far better film than DAF or AVTAK.

    If Babs is the one responsible for the bad of the Craig era, she's also responsible for the good. In choosing Craig, and in getting the rights to and making CR, she and MGW were able to attract some of the best talent in front of and behind the camera in the entire series.
    That's certainly true, but it is CR that remains the high water mark of this tenure. That film was delivered by a journeyman, and without any big name talent in front or behind the camera in other areas either (except competent and charismatic, but relatively unknown European actors). They would be well placed to remember that.

    Best talent doesn't necessarily mean best known.
    I agree. I'd be open to unknowns in front or behind the camera for the next outing and have even come round to Demange. Lower (or even no) expectations can result in a better received product sometimes.
  • Posts: 10,539
    I have a feeling this week or next week we will have our new director.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 6,064
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I have a feeling this week or next week we will have our new director.
    +1

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,748
    Hope you guys are right. I for one don’t see any immediate announcements for a while.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Basically we either get announcements in the very near future, or B25 is definitely delayed.
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