No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Yann Demange looks set to do another series of "Top Boy' for 2019.
    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/netflix-british-drug-dealer-drama-top-boy-1202609880/
    Does this rule him out?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Denis Villeneuve.

    Yann Demange didn't have much of a chance, anyway.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    Yann Demange looks set to do another series of "Top Boy' for 2019.
    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/netflix-british-drug-dealer-drama-top-boy-1202609880/
    Does this rule him out?

    Denis-Villeneuve.jpg
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    SaintMark wrote: »
    Bond just doesn’t bang 50 year old women. Craig’s Bond ducked out early. He had enough time to fool around. Once he got his info he was gone lol.

    Really your comment shows so much respect for the character of 007 and a splendid actress.

    Besides OHMSS, has Bond ever actually dated a girl or had more than a hook up? How many times have we heard the term “You use women as disposable objects”.. He didn’t care that Solange died. He used her for info and left her. Didn’t even have sex with her.

    Didn’t even show remorse when she died. He seemed to care a little when Fields got killed, but he didn’t care when Severine died? Who said I didn’t respect 007? I am merely stating the obvious..

    I don’t understand why she would realistically be back. It worked for Connery. He could have a random girl come back sure. Craig’s Bond is more human with a backstory. He left with Swann at the end of the last film and they are “in love”. He quit the service for her. Why would he ditch her for Lucia? That would confuse the general audience.. He barely even knew her and he also didn’t seem to care about her.

    She’s just another solange to me. Would have I loved to see more of solange? Who wouldn’t.. Plot wise no reason to bring her back..
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 5,767
    Minion wrote: »
    Except Ben Kingsly was the real Mandarin, it's just in the context of the film The Mandarin was just a figure head. Whatever Guy Pierce's character's name was is the real villain. I'm not suggesting Oberhauser isn't Blofeld. He IS Blofeld. Just, he's not the real head of SPECTRE. Stand-in, second in command, take your pick.

    I know about the Hail to the King short, but that doesn't really count because it's just a fun thing for the fans, not apart of an official movie.
    Actually, I meant my above suggestion as a joke.

  • I think Caroline should reappear as an insider mole who has secretly headed up SPECTRE all along. The stuttering and prudery were both a ruse. Campbell needs to finish what he started!
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    He left with Swann at the end of the last film and they are “in love”. He quit the service for her. Why would he ditch her for Lucia? That would confuse the general audience.. He barely even knew her and he also didn’t seem to care about her.

    it was never fully explained what Bond's intentions were at the end of the movie..

    yes, Mendes wanted Craig to have an 'out' (the whole tossing the Walther away, and recycled leaving the service bit from CR) in case he decided to call it off after SP.. but now that Craig is back, the ending of that movie - and Bond's intentions are more ambiguous... what you might view as him leaving the service, i could view as him wanting a temporary leave of duty (vacation) - he's done it before... as far as Bond and Swann being in love, she is the only one out of the two who expresses that feeling - and who knows, maybe she is doing it to snap Bond's attention?.. but if she means it, she isn't the only one who has told James she loves him - only to have him ditch them between films (Tatiyana Romanova in FRWL being the most notably example - who professes her love, all the while Bond is slapping her around).. the ending to SP, with Bond driving off with Swann, could be easily explained away like the ending of 95% of the Bond movies that came before.... also, James throwing away his gun - it was out of bullets, the police were already there to take Blofeld in, what further use did he have for it? - he could just as easily get another from Q.
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    I was expecting that to be honest. Even though Bond won't enter their territory, that much I am sure of, Disney eventually will buy the entire Hollywood. They're that much of a monster company all in one.

    Just like in the movie Demolition Man, where every restaurant is Taco bell ( or Pizza Hut ) in our reality every future movie or tv program will come from the mouse studios and EA ( or Activision) is the only video game company.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    SharkBait wrote: »
    I was expecting that to be honest. Even though Bond won't enter their territory, that much I am sure of, Disney eventually will buy the entire Hollywood. They're that much of a monster company all in one.

    Just like in the movie Demolition Man, where every restaurant is Taco bell ( or Pizza Hut ) in our reality every future movie or tv program will come from the mouse studios and EA ( or Activision) is the only video game company.
    Which is why it's frightening.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    If Monica is returning Felix must be also because in spectre she was to go to Felix
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I think Caroline should reappear as an insider mole who has secretly headed up SPECTRE all along. The stuttering and prudery were both a ruse. Campbell needs to finish what he started!

    How about Small Fawcett being behind it all?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I think Caroline should reappear as an insider mole who has secretly headed up SPECTRE all along. The stuttering and prudery were both a ruse. Campbell needs to finish what he started!
    How about Small Fawcett being behind it all?
    I'd be all for that. Oh the glory that'll be sung on the screen...
  • Posts: 4,619
    Yann Demange looks set to do another series of "Top Boy' for 2019.
    http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/netflix-british-drug-dealer-drama-top-boy-1202609880/
    Does this rule him out?
    A couple of months ago I would have been extremely happy with Demange directing Bond 25, and I still believe he would be a good choice. Having said that, Villeneuve would be an infinitely better choice, so this is great news! Although the article only says that Demange is going to be an executive producer of this second season of a tv show he has previously worked on. I just checked, and he did direct half of the episodes of the first season of "Top Boys", so he might end up directing some of this second season as well, but it's not official yet.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    I think Caroline should reappear as an insider mole who has secretly headed up SPECTRE all along. The stuttering and prudery were both a ruse. Campbell needs to finish what he started!

    :))
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    Besides Bond and the usual MI6 crew, I most want to see Felix return for the next one. Hopefully we get big news like director, casting, title, etc by this time next year, if not earlier.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Bellucci returning is a crap idea as far as I'm concerned.

    If they want to bring someone back, they should perhaps consider Gregory Beam (David Harbour).

    I can see a scenario where he's implicated in some Spectre infiltration of the CIA. Perhaps Felix gets caught up in it, bringing Bond in to help out an old friend. I realize it's the personal angle again, but they could make it work.

    Harbour is a great actor and I quite liked Beam.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Surely if they plan on some sort of course correction for B25, they aren't going to bring back characters from SP. I see themselves either embracing SP wholeheartedly and continuing the story, or going totally standalone and not mentioning a thing.

    General audiences aren't going to remember the likes of Swann and Lucia four years later, that's for damn sure. Bellucci was one of the very few highlights of SP for me, but I don't see what more her character can bring to the table.
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 2,115
    The whole notion of Craig wanting Bellucci to return in Bond 25 originated with The Mirror in mid-October.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/james-bond-star-daniel-craig-11342764


    You remember the Mirror? The tabloid that said this summer Bond 25 was going to be based on a Raymond Benson novel.

    If you forgot, don't feel bad. Various Bond-related Twitter feeds were all agog about Bellucci earlier today (probably because of the Variety story and the actress being coy). Clearly they forgot also.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bellucci returning is a crap idea as far as I'm concerned.

    If they want to bring someone back, they should perhaps consider Gregory Beam (David Harbour).

    I can see a scenario where he's implicated in some Spectre infiltration of the CIA. Perhaps Felix gets caught up in it, bringing Bond in to help out an old friend. I realize it's the personal angle again, but they could make it work.

    Harbour is a great actor and I quite liked Beam.

    Good call on Gregory Beam. I thought he was great character in QoS, wonderfully played by David Harbour.
    Funny, last year I had a job where one the employees was a dead ringer for Gregory Beam. I was tempted to say: "Anyone ever tell you you look exactly like David Harbour in Quantum of Solace?"
    The guy has since grown a full beard, changed his hairstyle and no longer resembles Gregory Beam.
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    She doesn’t even have to necessarily play the same character if they say screw continuity entirely, since that happened in the old days of Bond. Like I said, I’m open to her SP character returning, but they would have to be very careful with how it’s handled.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bellucci returning is a crap idea as far as I'm concerned.

    If they want to bring someone back, they should perhaps consider Gregory Beam (David Harbour).

    I can see a scenario where he's implicated in some Spectre infiltration of the CIA. Perhaps Felix gets caught up in it, bringing Bond in to help out an old friend. I realize it's the personal angle again, but they could make it work.

    Harbour is a great actor and I quite liked Beam.

    i've been watching Stranger Things - i thought he looked familiar! lol.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bellucci returning is a crap idea as far as I'm concerned.

    If they want to bring someone back, they should perhaps consider Gregory Beam (David Harbour).

    I can see a scenario where he's implicated in some Spectre infiltration of the CIA. Perhaps Felix gets caught up in it, bringing Bond in to help out an old friend. I realize it's the personal angle again, but they could make it work.

    Harbour is a great actor and I quite liked Beam.

    Wasn’t he arrested in QOS? Leiter got his job?
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bellucci returning is a crap idea as far as I'm concerned.

    If they want to bring someone back, they should perhaps consider Gregory Beam (David Harbour).

    I can see a scenario where he's implicated in some Spectre infiltration of the CIA. Perhaps Felix gets caught up in it, bringing Bond in to help out an old friend. I realize it's the personal angle again, but they could make it work.

    Harbour is a great actor and I quite liked Beam.

    Wasn’t he arrested in QOS? Leiter got his job?

    yes... i dont know if he was arrested - but he was ousted from his position, and Leiter was promoted into it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    HASEROT wrote: »
    i've been watching Stranger Things - i thought he looked familiar! lol.
    I've just picked the show up and am going to get to it soon. Looking forward to it.
    Wasn’t he arrested in QOS? Leiter got his job?
    Leiter got promoted but I can't remember what happened to Beam. Even if he was arrested though, it will have been 11 years by the time B25 is released, so he could have served a sentence (yes, that's how long we've been made to wait these days. *sigh*).
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Good call on Gregory Beam. I thought he was great character in QoS, wonderfully played by David Harbour.
    Funny, last year I had a job where one the employees was a dead ringer for Gregory Beam. I was tempted to say: "Anyone ever tell you you look exactly like David Harbour in Quantum of Solace?"
    The guy has since grown a full beard, changed his hairstyle and no longer resembles Gregory Beam.
    Haha. Harbour is known to change his look quite a bit though. I've seen him in some films where he's barely recognizable. He's quite a chameleon like actor.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    bondjames wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i've been watching Stranger Things - i thought he looked familiar! lol.
    I've just picked the show up and am going to get to it soon. Looking forward to it.
    Wasn’t he arrested in QOS? Leiter got his job?
    Leiter got promoted but I can't remember what happened to Beam. Even if he was arrested though, it will have been 11 years by the time B25 is released, so he could have served a sentence (yes, that's how long we've been made to wait these days. *sigh*).
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Good call on Gregory Beam. I thought he was great character in QoS, wonderfully played by David Harbour.
    Funny, last year I had a job where one the employees was a dead ringer for Gregory Beam. I was tempted to say: "Anyone ever tell you you look exactly like David Harbour in Quantum of Solace?"
    The guy has since grown a full beard, changed his hairstyle and no longer resembles Gregory Beam.
    Haha. Harbour is known to change his look quite a bit though. I've seen him in some films where he's barely recognizable. He's quite a chameleon like actor.

    And now he’s playing Hellboy!

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    bondjames wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i've been watching Stranger Things - i thought he looked familiar! lol.
    I've just picked the show up and am going to get to it soon. Looking forward to it.
    Wasn’t he arrested in QOS? Leiter got his job?
    Leiter got promoted but I can't remember what happened to Beam. Even if he was arrested though, it will have been 11 years by the time B25 is released, so he could have served a sentence (yes, that's how long we've been made to wait these days. *sigh*).
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Good call on Gregory Beam. I thought he was great character in QoS, wonderfully played by David Harbour.
    Funny, last year I had a job where one the employees was a dead ringer for Gregory Beam. I was tempted to say: "Anyone ever tell you you look exactly like David Harbour in Quantum of Solace?"
    The guy has since grown a full beard, changed his hairstyle and no longer resembles Gregory Beam.
    Haha. Harbour is known to change his look quite a bit though. I've seen him in some films where he's barely recognizable. He's quite a chameleon like actor.

    And now he’s playing Hellboy!
    That's right. I completely forgot about that. Who would have thought that would happen? Like I said, versatile and chameleon like.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    The whole notion of Craig wanting Bellucci to return in Bond 25 originated with The Mirror in mid-October.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/james-bond-star-daniel-craig-11342764


    You remember the Mirror? The tabloid that said this summer Bond 25 was going to be based on a Raymond Benson novel.

    If you forgot, don't feel bad. Various Bond-related Twitter feeds were all agog about Bellucci earlier today (probably because of the Variety story and the actress being coy). Clearly they forgot also.

    Everyone can remember that. You mentioned the Variety story and that's exactly why she's in the spotlight at the moment. The 'meat' of the story is that she answered it in-person (albeit in an ambiguous fashion) and that her agents didn't unequivocally denounce it either.

    The Mirror might be a disgraceful rag, but I will give it credit for at least getting celebrities to talk.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    HASEROT wrote: »
    i've been watching Stranger Things - i thought he looked familiar! lol.
    I've just picked the show up and am going to get to it soon. Looking forward to it.
    Wasn’t he arrested in QOS? Leiter got his job?
    Leiter got promoted but I can't remember what happened to Beam. Even if he was arrested though, it will have been 11 years by the time B25 is released, so he could have served a sentence (yes, that's how long we've been made to wait these days. *sigh*).
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Good call on Gregory Beam. I thought he was great character in QoS, wonderfully played by David Harbour.
    Funny, last year I had a job where one the employees was a dead ringer for Gregory Beam. I was tempted to say: "Anyone ever tell you you look exactly like David Harbour in Quantum of Solace?"
    The guy has since grown a full beard, changed his hairstyle and no longer resembles Gregory Beam.
    Haha. Harbour is known to change his look quite a bit though. I've seen him in some films where he's barely recognizable. He's quite a chameleon like actor.

    And now he’s playing Hellboy!
    That's right. I completely forgot about that. Who would have thought that would happen? Like I said, versatile and chameleon like.

    I don’t remember him being that big of an actor until Stranger Things. He was also in suicide squad.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    ;-)
  • edited November 2017 Posts: 12,837
    jake24 wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Will Monica Bellucci Return as ‘Bond Girl’ Along With Daniel Craig?
    variety.com/2017/film/news/will-monica-bellucci-return-bond-girl-bond-25-1202609803/

    On Tuesday evening in Rome, where she was feted with the Virna Lisi lifetime achievement award, Bellucci smiled at reporters who asked her to comment on the rumors, telling them: “I can’t say anything.”
    Very interesting. If she simply wasn't asked to return, I don't see a reason for her to be coy.

    This is a weird one if true. I thought she was underused in SP but definitely didn't expect or particularly want her to return.

    I'm thinking that @bondjames might be right on the approach they're taking. Not a direct sequel (can't see Blofeld featuring at all) but will start a few years down the line with an older retired Bond. Maybe Lucia is in some sort of trouble and seeks him out? Or maybe he just bumps into her as sort of a reminder of the past? I doubt they'll reference SP explicitly, all the audience would need to know is she's someone from Bond's past. Probably going with her rather than a new character to address complaints that she wasn't used enough in SP after all the "oldest Bond girl ever" hype.

    I should probably watch Logan to get a better idea of the road they might be heading down as I'm sure that was what inspired them if this is the route they're taken, but an Unforgiven sort of story with James Bond is definitely something I can get excited for.

    Or maybe she was just keeping shut just in case but hasn't actually been asked back and I'm reading way too much into it.
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