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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe Given the circumstances
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    Craigs lacks both the daring, suave aspect of bond as well as the humour/irreverent aspect and that's why I think turner is the ideal choice to take over the role. bond fans are all dying for a film with a proper gunbarrel at the start, a roaring rendition of the bond theme layered throughout, an actual up-beat song for once and a fully capable, modern bond. We need someone with the same showman qualities of Moore, Brosnan and Connery, who are as good as ambassadors as they are playing him on screen, and you can clearly see how aidan turner is the most self-depricating, down to earth gent you're ever likely to meet from his interviews. I think if The Suspect, Poldark and ATTWN have shown us anything its that Turner has all the commanding presence to pull off bond, he has the dangerous aura mixed with a cheery, affable demeanour, perfect to play both the outward facing facade who charms at parties and the inward calculating mind that drinks alone in his hotel room at 2am.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Craigs lacks both the daring, suave aspect of bond as well as the humour/irreverent aspect and that's why I think turner is the ideal choice to take over the role. bond fans are all dying for a film with a proper gunbarrel at the start, a roaring rendition of the bond theme layered throughout, an actual up-beat song for once and a fully capable, modern bond. We need someone with the same showman qualities of Moore, Brosnan and Connery, who are as good as ambassadors as they are playing him on screen, and you can clearly see how aidan turner is the most self-depricating, down to earth gent you're ever likely to meet from his interviews. I think if The Suspect, Poldark and ATTWN have shown us anything its that Turner has all the commanding presence to pull off bond, he has the dangerous aura mixed with a cheery, affable demeanour, perfect to play both the outward facing facade who charms at parties and the inward calculating mind that drinks alone in his hotel room at 2am.

    Welcome back after some absence, dear @Mendes4Lyfe You are a 1000% on point, like the page count, nearly, of this rather interesting thread. I couldn't have written it better. Hopefully EoN realises this as well and ditch the younger Bond route. At about 40 Turner is perfect.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The more interviews that I see, the higher he goes on my list.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    To me, only two names feel as if they’d command the screen in interesting ways (and both doing this in wildly different ways):

    Sope Dirisu who ooze’s masculinity, charisma and a real sense of lethal force, and;

    Nicholas Hoult, who’s so charming and likeable, but I could see him unleashing a measured intensity when called upon. Perhaps the actor closest to having a Moore’esque way about him.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Craigs lacks both the daring, suave aspect of bond as well as the humour/irreverent aspect and that's why I think turner is the ideal choice to take over the role. bond fans are all dying for a film with a proper gunbarrel at the start, a roaring rendition of the bond theme layered throughout, an actual up-beat song for once and a fully capable, modern bond. We need someone with the same showman qualities of Moore, Brosnan and Connery, who are as good as ambassadors as they are playing him on screen, and you can clearly see how aidan turner is the most self-depricating, down to earth gent you're ever likely to meet from his interviews. I think if The Suspect, Poldark and ATTWN have shown us anything its that Turner has all the commanding presence to pull off bond, he has the dangerous aura mixed with a cheery, affable demeanour, perfect to play both the outward facing facade who charms at parties and the inward calculating mind that drinks alone in his hotel room at 2am.

    You lost me with the first sentence. Craig lacks the daring aspect of Bond? What does that even mean?

    You say that we need a modern Bond, and then you proceed by referring to Connery, Moore and Brosnan. I'd say Craig was a modern Bond, someone who walked away from the previous five guys.

    As for Turner, I have tried and tried and tried, seeing all the love for him. I don't get it. He's good. But Bond? A bit dull, to be honest. I wouldn't mind him modelling for the next Bond action figures, but that's it for me. Also, he'll be over 40 when the next film starts shooting. I doubt they're still going for that age range.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I was very skeptical when Craig was cast, but was won over with the first teaser trailer.

    Same.
    Truth is, Brosnan was easy for me to accept. He made sense in an unchallenging way.
    Craig was tougher at first; I had to plough through a few concerns. It was love, but not until after first, second and third sight. But the more we saw of him, the more I grew convinced. CR felt like a reward for being patient and confident. Perhaps that's why my appreciation of Craig has reached a lot deeper too. Brosnan was an "of course", Craig was a "hold on now" that morphed into a "damn, he's awesome, I can see it now!"

    I think there was a lot of projection coming with Brosnan. When cast he was pretty much plebiscited and GE was almost condemned to succeed. I don't think any other actor had it as easy upon casting and I don't think any ever will.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    As for Turner, I have tried and tried and tried, seeing all the love for him. I don't get it. He's good. But Bond? A bit dull, to be honest.

    I feel the same. I’ve tried. Just my opinion, but Turner always seems he’s “Acting” with a big “A”…. The scowls or a look or a laugh seem so calculated and telegraphed. It doesn’t feel like he just “is” the role. Not nuanced. Very actorly and almost stagey.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    As for Turner, I have tried and tried and tried, seeing all the love for him. I don't get it. He's good. But Bond? A bit dull, to be honest.

    I feel the same. I’ve tried. Just my opinion, but Turner always seems he’s “Acting” with a big “A”…. The scowls or a look or a laugh seem so calculated and telegraphed. It doesn’t feel like he just “is” the role. Not nuanced. Very actorly and almost stagey.

    To a degree I feel the same about Cavill; I can always sense that he’s “acting “ and carefully contemplating every word before it comes out of his mouth.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    As for Turner, I have tried and tried and tried, seeing all the love for him. I don't get it. He's good. But Bond? A bit dull, to be honest.

    I feel the same. I’ve tried. Just my opinion, but Turner always seems he’s “Acting” with a big “A”…. The scowls or a look or a laugh seem so calculated and telegraphed. It doesn’t feel like he just “is” the role. Not nuanced. Very actorly and almost stagey.

    To a degree I feel the same about Cavill; I can always sense that he’s “acting “ and carefully contemplating every word before it comes out of his mouth.

    Definitely, @talos7 … but he comes off as having a more “friendly “ persona than Turner— for me.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    talos7 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    As for Turner, I have tried and tried and tried, seeing all the love for him. I don't get it. He's good. But Bond? A bit dull, to be honest.

    I feel the same. I’ve tried. Just my opinion, but Turner always seems he’s “Acting” with a big “A”…. The scowls or a look or a laugh seem so calculated and telegraphed. It doesn’t feel like he just “is” the role. Not nuanced. Very actorly and almost stagey.

    To a degree I feel the same about Cavill; I can always sense that he’s “acting “ and carefully contemplating every word before it comes out of his mouth.

    I feel the same about both.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    As for Turner, I have tried and tried and tried, seeing all the love for him. I don't get it. He's good. But Bond? A bit dull, to be honest.

    I feel the same. I’ve tried. Just my opinion, but Turner always seems he’s “Acting” with a big “A”…. The scowls or a look or a laugh seem so calculated and telegraphed. It doesn’t feel like he just “is” the role. Not nuanced. Very actorly and almost stagey.

    To a degree I feel the same about Cavill; I can always sense that he’s “acting “ and carefully contemplating every word before it comes out of his mouth.

    Definitely, @talos7 … but he comes off as having a more “friendly “ persona than Turner— for me.

    Absolutely, and while I’ve cooled on Cavill over the years, I do wonder how much my perception of him is a result of his not using his natural accent in so many of his roles. When I hear him speaking in his natural voice, I think to myself, ‘ hmmm, he actually could be a very good Bond’.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Regardless of Cavill's skills, I think his ship has sailed. I don't think he'll be Bond. Ten years or so ago maybe, but not now.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I agree.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    As much as I'd enjoy seeing him as Bond, you're right. Plus, he's returning as Superman now, so I can't imagine he'd have the time to play Bond too.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    peter wrote: »
    To me, only two names feel as if they’d command the screen in interesting ways (and both doing this in wildly different ways):

    Sope Dirisu who ooze’s masculinity, charisma and a real sense of lethal force, and;

    Nicholas Hoult, who’s so charming and likeable, but I could see him unleashing a measured intensity when called upon. Perhaps the actor closest to having a Moore’esque way about him.

    Nick is my top choice right now as Hardy and Fassbender is now too old
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Cavill cannot act, my opinion always. Turner on the other hand can act and although Peter has a point to a certain degree, to me it's not an off putting way of acting. The most important aspect, is an actor believable, in regards to Turner it's a solid yes. In regards to Cavill, not really, mostly hollow. Ymmv.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Kanye West has proposed himself in the past. Can we rule him out?
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    Or would it be too woke?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Or not woke enough.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Kanye West has proposed himself in the past. Can we rule him out?
    ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.soycarmin.com%2F__export%2F1444326710497%2Fsites%2Fdebate%2Fimg%2Fcelebs%2F2015%2F10%2F08%2Fkanye-bond.jpg_242310155.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=160f596ac3b78762857adb578a575691aa653a2fb5654d51f9363b41e8f124a0&ipo=images
    Or would it be too woke?

    Well, the guy seems anti woke, so I'm not sure. However he sometimes claims to be the next Christ or next potus. However he's also an anti semite, so I'd say NEXT!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    Cavill cannot act, my opinion always. Turner on the other hand can act and although Peter has a point to a certain degree, to me it's not an off putting way of acting. The most important aspect, is an actor believable, in regards to Turner it's a solid yes. In regards to Cavill, not really, mostly hollow. Ymmv.

    He's almost 40 so that seems to confirm he won't be the next Bond, unless they change their minds on wanting a younger actor in the role (which I can't imagine they won't, at the rate they're releasing them nowadays.)
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    Cavill cannot act, my opinion always. Turner on the other hand can act and although Peter has a point to a certain degree, to me it's not an off putting way of acting. The most important aspect, is an actor believable, in regards to Turner it's a solid yes. In regards to Cavill, not really, mostly hollow. Ymmv.

    He's almost 40 so that seems to confirm he won't be the next Bond, unless they change their minds on wanting a younger actor in the role (which I can't imagine they won't, at the rate they're releasing them nowadays.)

    I reckon they should pick the guy who resembles Bond the most, in the broadest sense of the word, regardless of age. I honestly cannot wait to find out who truly could and should be Bond. At least according to EoN.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    Cavill cannot act, my opinion always. Turner on the other hand can act and although Peter has a point to a certain degree, to me it's not an off putting way of acting. The most important aspect, is an actor believable, in regards to Turner it's a solid yes. In regards to Cavill, not really, mostly hollow. Ymmv.

    Agreed.
  • Kojak007Kojak007
    edited December 2022 Posts: 40
    peter wrote: »
    Nicholas Hoult, who’s so charming and likeable, but I could see him unleashing a measured intensity when called upon. Perhaps the actor closest to having a Moore’esque way about him.
    I agree, I think he could provide a fresh take on the role. Also, he already appeared in both humorous and more serious roles/movies. Would like to see him at least getting a screen test, however, I don't think it will happen...

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited December 2022 Posts: 6,929
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Nicholas Hoult, who’s so charming and likeable, but I could see him unleashing a measured intensity when called upon. Perhaps the actor closest to having a Moore’esque way about him.
    I agree, I think he could provide a fresh take on the role. Also, he already appeared in both humorous and more serious roles/movies. Would like to see him at least getting a screen test, however, I don't think it will happen...

    I agree on Hoult, why do you think he would not get a screentest? He was runner up for the lead in “The Batman “ so he’s on the radar and obviously isn’t adverse to a large franchise.

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I think he'd have made a better Batman than Pattinson (although he was still very good).

    I'd be happy to see him as Bond if it went that way.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe Moderator
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Kanye West has proposed himself in the past. Can we rule him out?
    ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.soycarmin.com%2F__export%2F1444326710497%2Fsites%2Fdebate%2Fimg%2Fcelebs%2F2015%2F10%2F08%2Fkanye-bond.jpg_242310155.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=160f596ac3b78762857adb578a575691aa653a2fb5654d51f9363b41e8f124a0&ipo=images
    Or would it be too woke?

    The next US President, and the next Bond?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Craigs lacks both the daring, suave aspect of bond as well as the humour/irreverent aspect and that's why I think turner is the ideal choice to take over the role. bond fans are all dying for a film with a proper gunbarrel at the start, a roaring rendition of the bond theme layered throughout, an actual up-beat song for once and a fully capable, modern bond. We need someone with the same showman qualities of Moore, Brosnan and Connery, who are as good as ambassadors as they are playing him on screen, and you can clearly see how aidan turner is the most self-depricating, down to earth gent you're ever likely to meet from his interviews. I think if The Suspect, Poldark and ATTWN have shown us anything its that Turner has all the commanding presence to pull off bond, he has the dangerous aura mixed with a cheery, affable demeanour, perfect to play both the outward facing facade who charms at parties and the inward calculating mind that drinks alone in his hotel room at 2am.

    Welcome back after some absence, dear @Mendes4Lyfe You are a 1000% on point, like the page count, nearly, of this rather interesting thread. I couldn't have written it better. Hopefully EoN realises this as well and ditch the younger Bond route. At about 40 Turner is perfect.

    I have to hand it to you two, keeping this up for, what is it, three, four years now? Is quite impressive. I actually at one point thought you guys were one..

    But dispite your tenacity as fand pulling the bandwagon, I still don't see it. I just don't think he's good enough, and your assessment that fans need a 'lighter' Bond, is not one I share. Craig had plenty of humour, a bit too much in the last two films if you ask me. Aidan is just too lightweight imo. Same goes for Cavill. I don't think he's a bad actor, far from it. But he isn't that good either, risking a rather two-dimensional Bond. That was, in the end, also Brosnan's problem and though that worked in the nineties, that day and age is long gone.

    I'm glad by now some other names are popping up, and both Aaron Taylor Johnson and Theo James seem interesting enough to be considered. But I haven't seen enough of them to make up my mind at all. ATJ sure has the look though and I wouldn't mind someone with a less bulky look. After all, the literary Bond was strong, but not overtly so. Allthough I'll leave the expertese on training over to the @talos7 's of this world, who know far more about it than me.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lagos, Nigeria
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    Even if I would like certain actors to get the role, I feel so at ease...because I'm not particularly bent on a candidate. It's the best way to anticipate Bond 7's casting.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited December 2022 Posts: 1,235
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    JeremyBondon wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Craigs lacks both the daring, suave aspect of bond as well as the humour/irreverent aspect and that's why I think turner is the ideal choice to take over the role. bond fans are all dying for a film with a proper gunbarrel at the start, a roaring rendition of the bond theme layered throughout, an actual up-beat song for once and a fully capable, modern bond. We need someone with the same showman qualities of Moore, Brosnan and Connery, who are as good as ambassadors as they are playing him on screen, and you can clearly see how aidan turner is the most self-depricating, down to earth gent you're ever likely to meet from his interviews. I think if The Suspect, Poldark and ATTWN have shown us anything its that Turner has all the commanding presence to pull off bond, he has the dangerous aura mixed with a cheery, affable demeanour, perfect to play both the outward facing facade who charms at parties and the inward calculating mind that drinks alone in his hotel room at 2am.

    Welcome back after some absence, dear @Mendes4Lyfe You are a 1000% on point, like the page count, nearly, of this rather interesting thread. I couldn't have written it better. Hopefully EoN realises this as well and ditch the younger Bond route. At about 40 Turner is perfect.

    I have to hand it to you two, keeping this up for, what is it, three, four years now? Is quite impressive. I actually at one point thought you guys were one..

    But dispite your tenacity as fand pulling the bandwagon, I still don't see it. I just don't think he's good enough, and your assessment that fans need a 'lighter' Bond, is not one I share. Craig had plenty of humour, a bit too much in the last two films if you ask me. Aidan is just too lightweight imo. Same goes for Cavill. I don't think he's a bad actor, far from it. But he isn't that good either, risking a rather two-dimensional Bond. That was, in the end, also Brosnan's problem and though that worked in the nineties, that day and age is long gone.

    I'm glad by now some other names are popping up, and both Aaron Taylor Johnson and Theo James seem interesting enough to be considered. But I haven't seen enough of them to make up my mind at all. ATJ sure has the look though and I wouldn't mind someone with a less bulky look. After all, the literary Bond was strong, but not overtly so. Allthough I'll leave the expertese on training over to the @talos7 's of this world, who know far more about it than me.

    A very reasonable post and I assure you we are two different people, haha. I have to be honest and thought the same about other members here, but was proven incorrect. All good.

    One big happy Bond family now.
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