Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited December 2022 Posts: 1,229
    A 1000 pages of casting madness, which started June 2011 by a certain mr. @DaltonCraig007 who thought David Coulthard should be the next Bond. Fast forward to December 2022 and still all bets are off, the hunt continues!

    Anyone fancy a glass of Bollinger? Perhaps a Martini, or merely a Heineken? Come on gents, time to feast!

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @DaltonCraig007 is dearly missed around these parts.

    I wonder how likely it is that we'll know who the next Bond is by this time next year.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lagos, Nigeria
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    I still find it strange that fans were already thinking about Bond 7, even before Craig got to half of his era. I don't remember that happening when Brosnan was Bond. Maybe fans couldn't see beyond Brosnan at the time.
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    I still find it strange that fans were already thinking about Bond 7, even before Craig got to half of his era. I don't remember that happening when Brosnan was Bond. Maybe fans couldn't see beyond Brosnan at the time.

    I was thinking of it 5 mins into GE!!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I still find it strange that fans were already thinking about Bond 7, even before Craig got to half of his era. I don't remember that happening when Brosnan was Bond. Maybe fans couldn't see beyond Brosnan at the time.

    The worry that Craig's era had an air of instability to it in terms of behind the scenes shenanigans had something to do with that. I don't think it had much to do with Craig himself.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe Given the circumstances
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    It's crazy because before I left this place all I ever heard about was how turner was too baby-faced to be bond, and now he's aged a bit and put on some muscle suddenly he's "too old". Sometimes it feels like people secretly know he's right for the part so they just look any excuse they can to rule him out. Well it's important to remember that performance plays a role in how actor is perceived - roger Moore was able to pull off his cheeky, eyebrow raising persona into his late 50's because he just had it nailed so well, whereas Daniel was an "old grumpy bulldog" by his mid 40's because his real life image leaks into the script and his bond had no vigour or exuberance about him, didn't seem to ever enjoy himself. That's why its silly to talk about age as some kind of defining benchmark, because charisma doesn't fade, and youth will never be a substitute for it, or we wouldn't still have 80 year old harrison ford running around with his whip and hat, and 60 year old tom cruise flying fighter jets. If you watch any interviews of turner you can clearly tell he is like the grown up kid that Moore and brosnan were, constantly cracking jokes and making light of things, that's exactly what the franchise needs from this point, we want classic bond back, where he actually completes his mission with a smile and no matter how dire things get always has an extra trick up his sleeve. people say "oh you want classic bond but with a modern actor?" like it's a contradiction, but really the fans just want the same thing we've always wanted someone who can make the classic bond work in the modern age - that's turner down to a tee, just like brosnan was THAT GUY for the mid nineties. No one ever asked for a dramatic reinvention of the character, no one demanded that every trope, every tie of familiarity to the series legacy be broken unitl being the most bond is to be anti-bond. having bond not see his mission out, not make it out, not bed the girl in the end was the final sacrement and they completely destroyed it like they were breaking the tape at the end of a marathon. now there's only two courses the franchise can take, either they reconnect with the legacy and spirit of what Cubby Saltzman Fleming created and begin to produce crowd pleasing films that deserve to have the bond theme played over them again, or they fully disappear into the post-modern ideological abyss and hire rege jean page as bond. If top gun maverick proved anything, it's that the appetite for pure cinematic revelry still exists, and if anything people are more hungry for it than ever.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    If you watch any interviews of turner you can clearly tell he is like the grown up kid that Moore and brosnan were, constantly cracking jokes and making light of things, that's exactly what the franchise needs from this point, we want classic bond back, where he actually completes his mission with a smile and no matter how dire things get always has an extra trick up his sleeve.

    I'd say Craig is like that in interviews; moreso than Brosnan who can often be quite actorly. I'm not sure interviews give a great idea of how someone will play a role.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe Given the circumstances
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    mtm wrote: »
    If you watch any interviews of turner you can clearly tell he is like the grown up kid that Moore and brosnan were, constantly cracking jokes and making light of things, that's exactly what the franchise needs from this point, we want classic bond back, where he actually completes his mission with a smile and no matter how dire things get always has an extra trick up his sleeve.

    I'd say Craig is like that in interviews; moreso than Brosnan who can often be quite actorly. I'm not sure interviews give a great idea of how someone will play a role.

    Every bond actor eventually ends up playing a version of themselves onscreen. maybe in their first film they treat it more as a "role", but eventually their offscreen personality seeps in, roger moore was naturally affable and self deprecating so his bond became that way, Craig is naturally grumpy and irritable, peirce was smooth etc. It's partly why I think for a role like Bond acting ability becomes irrelevant since its more about how you carry yourself and the aura you give off, which is how lazenby was able to get the role despite barely acting at all.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2022 Posts: 12,089
    mtm wrote: »
    If you watch any interviews of turner you can clearly tell he is like the grown up kid that Moore and brosnan were, constantly cracking jokes and making light of things, that's exactly what the franchise needs from this point, we want classic bond back, where he actually completes his mission with a smile and no matter how dire things get always has an extra trick up his sleeve.

    I'd say Craig is like that in interviews; moreso than Brosnan who can often be quite actorly. I'm not sure interviews give a great idea of how someone will play a role.

    Every bond actor eventually ends up playing a version of themselves onscreen. maybe in their first film they treat it more as a "role", but eventually their offscreen personality seeps in, roger moore was naturally affable and self deprecating so his bond became that way, Craig is naturally grumpy and irritable, peirce was smooth etc. It's partly why I think for a role like Bond acting ability becomes irrelevant since its more about how you carry yourself and the aura you give off, which is how lazenby was able to get the role despite barely acting at all.

    No, they really are all acting when they're playing Bond. Craig is quite giggly in interviews; have you seen him do them? Alternatively Poldark never lightened up over several series, despite Turner's apparently sunnier outlook on life.
    Even in interviews these people are giving performances in a way.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lagos, Nigeria
    edited December 2022 Posts: 556
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I still find it strange that fans were already thinking about Bond 7, even before Craig got to half of his era. I don't remember that happening when Brosnan was Bond. Maybe fans couldn't see beyond Brosnan at the time.

    I was thinking of it 5 mins into GE!!
    Lol. That's funny though.
    I still find it strange that fans were already thinking about Bond 7, even before Craig got to half of his era. I don't remember that happening when Brosnan was Bond. Maybe fans couldn't see beyond Brosnan at the time.

    The worry that Craig's era had an air of instability to it in terms of behind the scenes shenanigans had something to do with that. I don't think it had much to do with Craig himself.
    Yeah, true. Not Craig's fault for sure. Just the limbo-like way of things gave that thought to fans.

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    1000 pages in and we are still a long way off Bond #7's casting. Hopefully 2023 will be the year
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    1000 pages in and we are still a long way off Bond #7's casting. Hopefully 2023 will be the year
    I am glad you said the year cause I was like wait 2023 pages till eon finally announces the next 007
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Mendes4Lyfe
    Turner is too baby-faced and too old in my opinion, and yes, that's possible. ;-)
    I don't "secretly feel that he's right for the job and then rule him out". If he was right for the job IMO, I'd be advocating that he be considered for it. There is no childish conspiracy going on here, although I will admit that Turner was shoved in my face a bit too much a few years ago. He was presented as this messiah of the Bond actors, and given how dull I find him to be, that worshipping struck me as odd and, after many weeks / months of seeing the Turner cult rise to promotional extremes, things became irritating. I almost started to hate Turner in response. How childish of me. I don't mind the man as an actor. But I don't think he's Bond material, is all.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    For me, it's less to do with "they look baby-faced" and more of what they're telling us. If they're searching for someone in their early 30s, that eliminates a lot of the choices we've been discussing the last several hundred pages. It's refreshing seeing the topic turn to some newer candidates as a result.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Agree with @DarthDimi ... If I thought Aidan Turner was Bond material, seen through my eyes, I'd state it, and not hide my feelings about him.

    Unfortunately I too find him bland and stagey and I don't want to see that in Bond.

    No harm, no foul.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm still only familiar with Turner through the progressively downhill Hobbit Trilogy, which isn't the best audition for the role.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Creasy47 , he was terrible, but, I don’t think anyone was good in those films.

    Poldark can be seen on Apple TV and seek out And Then There Were None. He shows up better in these two projects.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    peter wrote: »
    @Creasy47 , he was terrible, but, I don’t think anyone was good in those films.

    Poldark can be seen on Apple TV and seek out And Then There Were None. He shows up better in these two projects.

    I think And Then There Were None is the consistent recommendation I've seen on here. I still need to check it out but I remember prioritizing it more a couple of years back when his casting seemed slightly more plausible.

    And yeah, definitely no award winners in that trilogy, despite some actors I loved returning from LOTR.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Turner's best "audition" for me was The Man Who Killed Hitler and Then the Bigfoot.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    peter wrote: »
    @Creasy47 , he was terrible, but, I don’t think anyone was good in those films.

    Poldark can be seen on Apple TV and seek out And Then There Were None. He shows up better in these two projects.

    The movies were sh-t, Turner wasn't. Fixed it for you. Ha.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    peter wrote: »
    Agree with @DarthDimi ... If I thought Aidan Turner was Bond material, seen through my eyes, I'd state it, and not hide my feelings about him.

    Unfortunately I too find him bland and stagey and I don't want to see that in Bond.

    No harm, no foul.

    Glad I'm not the only one, @peter. I don't dislike Turner, I have nothing against him, but people can repeat his name as often as they want to, I don't see him as Bond and quite surely never will.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Agree with @DarthDimi ... If I thought Aidan Turner was Bond material, seen through my eyes, I'd state it, and not hide my feelings about him.

    Unfortunately I too find him bland and stagey and I don't want to see that in Bond.

    No harm, no foul.

    Glad I'm not the only one, @peter. I don't dislike Turner, I have nothing against him, but people can repeat his name as often as they want to, I don't see him as Bond and quite surely never will.

    It blows my mind, but indeed to each his own.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I find Turner would be best for a television adaptation of literary Bond as opposed to leading the film franchise.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I find Turner would be best for a television adaptation of literary Bond as opposed to leading the film franchise.

    Not even that. If they'd ever do a television adaptation, I hope they'll think even more out of the box and go bold and risky.
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Agree with @DarthDimi ... If I thought Aidan Turner was Bond material, seen through my eyes, I'd state it, and not hide my feelings about him.

    Unfortunately I too find him bland and stagey and I don't want to see that in Bond.

    No harm, no foul.

    Glad I'm not the only one, @peter. I don't dislike Turner, I have nothing against him, but people can repeat his name as often as they want to, I don't see him as Bond and quite surely never will.

    It blows my mind, but indeed to each his own.

    We agree about that. ;-)
  • edited December 2022 Posts: 1,272
    Turner reminds me of Clive Owen (who I guess was rumoured for Bond around 2005). I mean, the idea of both playing Bond makes sense on paper... sort of. Neither are too famous, but not unknown. Both look like generic 'James Bond' types. And yet there's just something off about them for this particular role. I dunno what it is. Maybe I just can't see either of them bringing anything unique to the part or giving us interesting performances.
  • edited December 2022 Posts: 707
    Turner looks more Bond than Clive ever did.

    ATJ wouldn't be a bad choice.

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  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited December 2022 Posts: 1,229
    It's clear some of us are miles apart in our assessments of some actors their qualities. That's OK, as I most likely dislike your frontrunners as well. Still, I hope Turner will be Bond and prove all of you wrong. I truly hope it won't be ATJ (American jock look-a-like). Why try and fix something when it's not broken. Back to the roots, Aidan Turner, a marvelous script (which we haven't had in years). Count your blessings.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited December 2022 Posts: 38,243
    I don't think Turner being cast would prove anybody "wrong", considering they're looking for someone 10 years his junior. They're not going to cast someone who's already in their 40s anymore when it takes 3-5 years to release a new installment. It's just not feasible.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Why would Turner take us back to the roots? He's neither a Hoagy Carmichael nor a Sean Connery. He's more like Pierce's cousin twice removed.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited December 2022 Posts: 1,229
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Why would Turner take us back to the roots? He's neither a Hoagy Carmichael nor a Sean Connery. He's more like Pierce's cousin twice removed.

    Again, what you see in Turner is worlds apart from myself and many many others on here, let alone globally. Turner literally looks like he could be Dalton's lost son and we all know Dalts resembles literary Bond, in more than one way. With the right director Turner could be an unstoppable force, which Bond in the end kind of is as well. So again, agree to disagree.

    @Creasy47

    We will see who they cast, Turner's chances aren't totally gone I think. But hey what do I know.
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