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  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    Posts: 732
    Can‘t help it - I am not concerned at all. I totally believe B25 has all ingredients that it WILL turn out better than SP and rank somewhere between CR an Skyfall. Based on the pictures I saw, the cast, the locations, the writing team (including Craig, as it seems) I am sure I will enjoy the film. I am curious about the musician - but even here I doubt it will be something as uninspired as the SP soundtrack.

    What I would appreciate since it somewhat fits the Craig era would be another rock song like YKMN. I would not mind a band like Shinedown performing it or (even more fitting, I guess) the Arctic Monkeys. But I would avoid another Ballad (loved „Skyfall“ HATED and still HATE WOTW) and inject energy right there in the title tune again.
  • Posts: 6,665
    He did not express his concerns, he made a poorly written trash piece. You guys can spin it the way you want, but it doesn't change that the bias on the information front here is Baz himself, who licks and then bites accordingly to his access.

    But hey, this is really non-news and I don't give a rat's bottom about it. So do carry on with it if you like, I'll be puffing on a MonteCristo and catching some well deserved sun.
  • Posts: 4,400
    Univex wrote: »
    He did not express his concerns, he made a poorly written trash piece. You guys can spin it the way you want, but it doesn't change that the bias on the information front here is Baz himself, who licks and then bites accordingly to his access.

    But hey, this is really non-news and I don't give a rat's bottom about it. So do carry on with it if you like, I'll be puffing on a MonteCristo and catching some well deserved sun.

    You say that, but Baz was part of the select press members who were allowed to go to Jamaica.

    If he’s confident enough to post such a story, then it has merit. Even Naomie Harris said in that GQ video that they haven’t let her see a script. I feel there is certainly merit to Baz’s claims.
  • edited May 2019 Posts: 6,665
    Univex wrote: »
    He did not express his concerns, he made a poorly written trash piece. You guys can spin it the way you want, but it doesn't change that the bias on the information front here is Baz himself, who licks and then bites accordingly to his access.

    But hey, this is really non-news and I don't give a rat's bottom about it. So do carry on with it if you like, I'll be puffing on a MonteCristo and catching some well deserved sun.

    You say that, but Baz was part of the select press members who were allowed to go to Jamaica.

    If he’s confident enough to post such a story, then it has merit. Even Naomie Harris said in that GQ video that they haven’t let her see a script. I feel there is certainly merit to Baz’s claims.

    Sure, let's roll with it. Even so, not worried. I do know that when they have a good script, Craig seems to be the first to say it. In his short range of interviews dialogue he always makes sure to say "we've got a good script" or something along these lines. He didn't. Fallout didn't either. If they stuck with P&W and an unfinished script I'd be worried as hell. But what they did was, they brought along a series of brilliant writers to work on it. And one of them has now said they have a cool story/outline/narrative. They clearly are keeping it all very secretive so maybe the unfinished business is just misdirection, but even if it's true, I couldn't care less. I'm sick and tired of all the negativism and so I lucidly choose to remain positive while not knowing anything concrete besides the brilliant photos that have surfaced as of late. All of that being said, that piece was still a bad form of journalism, no matter how you spin it.

    And at some point we could have had an imprisioned soon to be dead Bond against a russian bland baddie with a samoan henchman. Blah! Rami Malek and Jamaica all the way now! Call me a happy fan.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 14,811
    When CR was in production there were almost daily stories as to the problems the film was in. Endless comments as to why the film would fail.
    Back then, I waited to judge the finished film for myself. After all, I watch the movies for my own enjoyment, not that of a critic. I can make my own mind up believe it or not.
    I'll do the same with Bond 25 in April 2020.
  • Posts: 22
    Univex wrote: »
    He did not express his concerns, he made a poorly written trash piece. You guys can spin it the way you want, but it doesn't change that the bias on the information front here is Baz himself, who licks and then bites accordingly to his access.

    But hey, this is really non-news and I don't give a rat's bottom about it. So do carry on with it if you like, I'll be puffing on a MonteCristo and catching some well deserved sun.

    You say that, but Baz was part of the select press members who were allowed to go to Jamaica.

    If he’s confident enough to post such a story, then it has merit. Even Naomie Harris said in that GQ video that they haven’t let her see a script. I feel there is certainly merit to Baz’s claims.

    Exactly what the others don't get
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    Posts: 732
    Univex wrote: »
    But what they did was, they brought along a series of brilliant writers to work on it. And one of them has now said they have a cool story/outline/narrative.
    My thoughts exactly.
    Univex wrote: »
    They clearly are keeping it all very secretive so maybe the unfinished business is just misdirection, but even if it's true, I couldn't care less.
    I don‘t mind seeing a few of the set pictures but overall I totally appreciate they keep it secret as much as they do.
    Univex wrote: »
    I'm sick and tired of all the negativism and so I lucidly choose to remain positive while not knowing anything concrete besides the brilliant photos that have surfaced as of late.
    In general, I appreciate all those different points of view even or maybe especially if I do not share them. But (like I expressed sometime earlier) I do not get the negativity or the reasons for it (unless somebody is dissatisfied with the Craig era in general, which is totally fine - another actor will bring something different to the table which may suit their tastes). As said, I do not get what really causes this negativity.
    All I see is a return of Craig whom I find marvelous in the part, an ensemble of beautiful women plus another welcome return of a well-liked supporting actor. And if this is not enough there‘s Rami Malek who definitely has the potential to play an awesome villain - a definitely better choice than Waltz from whom you knew what he‘ll bring to the table a long time before the cameras rolled.

    And even if this ain‘t enough to set a fan (and I suppose anybody reading here is somewhat a Bond fan) into „Bond mood“ there is Jamaica ... how much more „bondian“ can any location be?

    Of course there is still enough to discuss like the composer or if any of the actors may not be able to live up to their potential (which was the case with Waltz and Seydoux in SP, imho) ... but again I can‘t find any real reason for this often expressed „bad mood“ about B25.

    Even if one thinks Craig overstayed his time as 007 or did never like him in the role (which both are valid opinions one may have) I can‘t find anything in the facts about B25 that support the negativity. If all there is is „I just don‘t like the guy playing the role“ ... well, so be it. But that has nothing to do with B25 ... imho.

    I am excited about B25, yet (gladly) not as overhyped I was with SP. I am sure they learned their lessons.

    And this whole „Babs loves Daniel so much and thinks he walks on water“ BS ... Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson made a broad choice in casting Craig - it was their confidence that paid off big time in terms of critical acclaim AND money. I see no reason why they should not avoid the mistake Cubby and Harry made in part with Sean. Cubby and Harry should have included Sean more after TB as latest and give him more time „to breathe“, in my opinion. And Craig is hugely popular in the role and why shouldn‘t BB and MGW do exactly what they do right now? Craig turned out all they hoped for „the franchise“ when they cast him in 2005 and maybe even more. All well done.

    SP was a mess ... and one could blame them trusting Mendes way too much. I agree on that because they should have felt or realized he was out of steam and it showed in all areas like the script, unhappy actors and so on. I doubt they make the same mistake. And one day we may find out why Boyle really had to go. Maybe this time they just did their job and did not just let the director „do his thing“?

    James Bond will return.
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    My one major issue and concern with the production is that there's still no title announced yet.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited May 2019 Posts: 8,009
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.
  • edited May 2019 Posts: 6,665
    It'a the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Exactly!

    And, @SeanCraig, I won't quote your brilliant yet very long post, but the "Exactly!" is for you as well. Thank you
  • Posts: 22
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Other than the die hards, most casual viewers remember the line about slashing his wrist rather than playing the role. Thats what's engraved in public memory. Hence the quip about the reluctant bond
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,255
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Other than the die hards, most casual viewers remember the line about slashing his wrist rather than playing the role. Thats what's engraved in public memory. Hence the quip about the reluctant bond

    Casual fans don't remember what happened yesterday, let alone what was said in an article from five years ago. It's the Craig-haters and media that keep bringing it up.

    The casual fans don't really give a toss, I'd wager.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    peter wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Other than the die hards, most casual viewers remember the line about slashing his wrist rather than playing the role. Thats what's engraved in public memory. Hence the quip about the reluctant bond

    Casual fans don't remember what happened yesterday, let alone what was said in an article from five years ago. It's the Craig-haters and media that keep bringing it up.

    The casual fans don't really give a toss, I'd wager.

    Have never heard a single soul mention it.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Other than the die hards, most casual viewers remember the line about slashing his wrist rather than playing the role. Thats what's engraved in public memory. Hence the quip about the reluctant bond

    So Craig's legacy to the casual fan is the "slashing his wrists" comment and not the fact he starred in a billion dollar Bond, during a time where the series was more popular than ever thanks to his reinvention of the character in '06?

    Sorry mate. That's nonsense.
  • edited May 2019 Posts: 820
    I'm looking at this as multiple things quite possibly being true.
    • There's no questioning Baz's credibility . Even breaking Seydoux, Nyong'o near-miss this time 'round. He doesn't make stuff up.
    • Entirely possible that the script is still in flex on a scene-by-scene basis as they try and make it as good as it can be. That doesn't mean what they're working from is bad. Or that it's unfinished.
    • It could simply be a case that the core creative team is being extremely tight with the collective current draft and only providing scenes, sides etc. as necessary to the crew on a daily basis. That can be both for security purposes, and because they're still working on it.
    • Of course, on the surface, that would seem to be a "mess" -- given that the last two films had at least relatively baked scripts heading into production. SPECTRE had a lot of finale changes, we've heard. But if you're a crew member or department head who's used to getting the complete doc in hand before you shoot, and that didn't happen this time 'round, you'd be liable to be a bit cranky too. And understandably so. The price of respecting that process is that your job's harder to do.
    • Never underestimate the interpersonal dynamics going on that can lead to "sources" commenting on things like this. There's been a lot of change on B25 in the production machine itself -- presumably, a lot of shifting, people coming and going in the Boyle/Fukunaga switch. We can't really know if/how hard that's been on some of the crew. Entirely plausible there's some bad blood, particularly from Boyle-enlisted crew who've stuck around. You'd like to think they'd be all-in and grateful to be working on the film, but you can never know. It's probably not beyond some folks, if they feel slighted, to be saying these sorts of things to the press.

    All just bits of fun speculation there. I guess it boils down to the fact these situations/productions can be very complex, and we've no way of knowing which mix of factors leads to something like this.

    Even if the script's in flux and they're still working on it -- that only means they're making it better. Which is the ideal goal, isn't it?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    I'm looking at this as multiple things quite possibly being true.
    • There's no questioning Baz's credibility . Even breaking Seydoux, Nyong'o near-miss this time 'round. He doesn't make stuff up.
    • Entirely possible that the script is still in flex on a scene-by-scene basis as they try and make it as good as it can be. That doesn't mean what they're working from is bad. Or that it's unfinished.
    • It could simply be a case that the core creative team is being extremely tight with the collective current draft and only providing scenes, sides etc. as necessary to the crew on a daily basis. That can be both for security purposes, and because they're still working on it.
    • Of course, on the surface, that would seem to be a "mess" -- given that the last two films had at least relatively baked scripts heading into production. SPECTRE had a lot of finale changes, we've heard. But if you're a crew member or department head who's used to getting the complete doc in hand before you shoot, and that didn't happen this time 'round, you'd be liable to be a bit cranky too. And understandably so. The price of respecting that process is that your job's harder to do.
    • Never underestimate the interpersonal dynamics going on that can lead to "sources" commenting on things like this. There's been a lot of change on B25 in the production machine itself -- presumably, a lot of shifting, people coming and going in the Boyle/Fukunaga switch. We can't really know if/how hard that's been on some of the crew. Entirely plausible there's some bad blood, particularly from Boyle-enlisted crew who've stuck around. You'd like to think they'd be all-in and grateful to be working on the film, but you can never know. It's probably not beyond some folks, if they feel slighted, to be saying these sorts of things to the press.

    All just bits of fun speculation there. I guess it boils down to the fact these situations/productions can be very complex, and we've no way of knowing which mix of factors leads to something like this.

    Even if the script's in flux and they're still working on it -- that only means they're making it better. Which is the ideal goal, isn't it?

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  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Benny wrote: »
    When CR was in production there were almost daily stories as to the problems the film was in. Endless comments as to why the film would fail.
    Back then, I waited to judge the finished film for myself. After all, I watch the movies for my own enjoyment, not that of a critic. I can make my own mind up believe it or not.
    I'll do the same with Bond 25 in April 2020.

    +1
  • Posts: 820
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    When CR was in production there were almost daily stories as to the problems the film was in. Endless comments as to why the film would fail.
    Back then, I waited to judge the finished film for myself. After all, I watch the movies for my own enjoyment, not that of a critic. I can make my own mind up believe it or not.
    I'll do the same with Bond 25 in April 2020.

    +1

    +2
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    Tuxedo wrote: »
    The reaction to Baz were so utterly predictable and sad. He has an excellent track record but now that he wrote a negative story about Bond 25, he is suddenly not trustworthy, has an inflated ego, and is a thankless bastard?? Have you guys heard of the term "don't shoot the messenger"? Don't you think your anger should be perhaps directed at EON for not learning their lesson after the messy script writing process of Spectre?
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Almost all productions have re-writes of various degrees through out production, it is completely standard.
    Here we go again... "This is completely normal, nothing to see here! Disperse!"

    For the umpteenth time, there is a huge difference between starting filming with a more or less finished script, and then doing small rewrites during filming AND starting filming with a completely unfinished script and having to write a significant portion of the script after filming has begun.

    But it is all speculation and rumors so far. Why directing any anger at all? There will be a new Bond movie out next year (no speculation) and that should make us as fans happy! We all should judge after we‘ve seen the final movie.

    Panchito likes to stir up negativity.

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    Does anyone have any opinions on Naomie Harris speaking at the GQ Hereos Summit, when she said: "Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to ramp up the female perspective on Bond 25. The Bond of old, his days are numbered." She's certainly suggesting that the writer will shake up what's come to be expected of the character. I'm not sure how I should express how feel about her "The Bond of old, his days are numbered" remark.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,890
    The “ ...days are numbered “ is unfortunate, ominous and sad.
  • AgentM72 wrote: »
    I'm looking at this as multiple things quite possibly being true.
    • There's no questioning Baz's credibility . Even breaking Seydoux, Nyong'o near-miss this time 'round. He doesn't make stuff up.
    • Entirely possible that the script is still in flex on a scene-by-scene basis as they try and make it as good as it can be. That doesn't mean what they're working from is bad. Or that it's unfinished.
    • It could simply be a case that the core creative team is being extremely tight with the collective current draft and only providing scenes, sides etc. as necessary to the crew on a daily basis. That can be both for security purposes, and because they're still working on it.
    • Of course, on the surface, that would seem to be a "mess" -- given that the last two films had at least relatively baked scripts heading into production. SPECTRE had a lot of finale changes, we've heard. But if you're a crew member or department head who's used to getting the complete doc in hand before you shoot, and that didn't happen this time 'round, you'd be liable to be a bit cranky too. And understandably so. The price of respecting that process is that your job's harder to do.
    • Never underestimate the interpersonal dynamics going on that can lead to "sources" commenting on things like this. There's been a lot of change on B25 in the production machine itself -- presumably, a lot of shifting, people coming and going in the Boyle/Fukunaga switch. We can't really know if/how hard that's been on some of the crew. Entirely plausible there's some bad blood, particularly from Boyle-enlisted crew who've stuck around. You'd like to think they'd be all-in and grateful to be working on the film, but you can never know. It's probably not beyond some folks, if they feel slighted, to be saying these sorts of things to the press.

    All just bits of fun speculation there. I guess it boils down to the fact these situations/productions can be very complex, and we've no way of knowing which mix of factors leads to something like this.

    Even if the script's in flux and they're still working on it -- that only means they're making it better. Which is the ideal goal, isn't it?

    There seems to be a very haughty perception of the British media from this website - much of it deserved - but the bitching about a credible hack with a good track record of Bond scoops is snide.
    The film has undeniably been beset by production problems and the belated hiring of Waller-Bridge is another indication Eon or Craig are unsatisfied with the script. The official synopsis is intriguing enough to be reassuring, then again so was Spectre's and that was a deluxe Quantum...
  • Posts: 1,165
    bondsum wrote: »
    Does anyone have any opinions on Naomie Harris speaking at the GQ Hereos Summit, when she said: "Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to ramp up the female perspective on Bond 25. The Bond of old, his days are numbered." She's certainly suggesting that the writer will shake up what's come to be expected of the character. I'm not sure how I should express how feel about her "The Bond of old, his days are numbered" remark.
    “The Bond of old” could mean many things. Ultimately it is necessary to progress the character. The series has done such a fantastic job from Dalton, Brosnan and Craig’s era with updating Bond’s attitude towards women. I would very much like to see this continue.

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    QuantumArt wrote: »
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Other than the die hards, most casual viewers remember the line about slashing his wrist rather than playing the role. Thats what's engraved in public memory. Hence the quip about the reluctant bond

    So Craig's legacy to the casual fan is the "slashing his wrists" comment and not the fact he starred in a billion dollar Bond, during a time where the series was more popular than ever thanks to his reinvention of the character in '06?

    Sorry mate. That's nonsense.

    Why can't both be in public memory, He made a billion dollars with Skyfall and after Spectre he said he'd rather slash his wrist rather than do more. Casual fans wouldn't look at it as black and white as you do.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,494
    Costume Designer Colleen Morris On Working On The Period Musical Film ‘Bolden’
    https://blackfilm.com/read/2019/05/costume-designer-colleen-morris-on-working-on-the-period-musical-film-bolden/

    NG: Anything new in the works for you?

    CM: Yes. I’m going to be working on the new ‘James Bond’ movie. As you do know, I’m a Jamaican. Ian Fleming wrote all of those books in Jamaica. I’ve been to GoldenEye and touched his desk. I love ‘Bond’. It will be an exciting time.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    bondsum wrote: »
    Does anyone have any opinions on Naomie Harris speaking at the GQ Hereos Summit, when she said: "Phoebe Waller-Bridge is going to ramp up the female perspective on Bond 25. The Bond of old, his days are numbered." She's certainly suggesting that the writer will shake up what's come to be expected of the character. I'm not sure how I should express how feel about her "The Bond of old, his days are numbered" remark.

    That's actually not a very smart remark.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    It's the dig at the Craig that makes me doubt Baz's writing here.

    "The reluctant Bond....playing the reluctant Bond" is a very cheap jab, and a bit out of character for someone who, even if his sources of the script issues are accurate, has always been a fan of Craig himself. One of the few in the British press, it must be said.

    This is what makes me feel he has a chip on his shoulder in this particular instance, and that casts a bit of a shadow over the rest of the article. The whole thing feels off to the point that it doesn't actually feel like Baz typed it. He has been a great source for the last couple of films, for sure, but the way this entire article is framed feels reactionary.

    We've all seen the cast/crew photos over on the Filming Thread. Looks like they're having a ball so far, and that suggests to me that the script issues are being greatly exaggerated even if they do have merit.

    Other than the die hards, most casual viewers remember the line about slashing his wrist rather than playing the role. Thats what's engraved in public memory. Hence the quip about the reluctant bond

    So Craig's legacy to the casual fan is the "slashing his wrists" comment and not the fact he starred in a billion dollar Bond, during a time where the series was more popular than ever thanks to his reinvention of the character in '06?

    Sorry mate. That's nonsense.

    Why can't both be in public memory, He made a billion dollars with Skyfall and after Spectre he said he'd rather slash his wrist rather than do more. Casual fans wouldn't look at it as black and white as you do.

    That's not what you said, though. You said they remember the slash comment rather than him playing the role, which is incorrect.

    You don't know what way most casual fans would see it. There's millions of them.

    All I can say is that almost everyone in my circle, most of whom are casual fans and not a die hard like myself, haven't a bulls notion of what the wrist slashing thing is about. Some of them aren't even aware of Bond 25 developments, which in itself is a problem but a separate one and one that will be solved as production cranks itself up even further.

    What they DO certainly remember is Craig coming out of the sea in his Speedos, trying on the tux for the first time, and standing over Mr. White with the UMP in his hand in CR. They remember the homoerotic scene with Silva on the island, the burning lodge in Scotland and M's death in Skyfall. They remember 2012 as being massively Bond-centric. They remember his swagger as he walked across the rooftops in Mexico City in Spectre.

    These are the things that etch themselves into the public's consciousness. These are things that people will remember about Craig's Bond.

    And yes, while that's only my group and I can't be 100% sure beyond them - I'd be very surprised if most casual fans aren't the same.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    What category of fan they are is not for me to say (nor do I know), but I can say for a fact that I still see it bring up the wrist slashing comment online (not this forum).
  • Blofeld0064Blofeld0064 Milford, Michigan
    Posts: 243
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Costume Designer Colleen Morris On Working On The Period Musical Film ‘Bolden’
    https://blackfilm.com/read/2019/05/costume-designer-colleen-morris-on-working-on-the-period-musical-film-bolden/

    NG: Anything new in the works for you?

    CM: Yes. I’m going to be working on the new ‘James Bond’ movie. As you do know, I’m a Jamaican. Ian Fleming wrote all of those books in Jamaica. I’ve been to GoldenEye and touched his desk. I love ‘Bond’. It will be an exciting time.

    So is she going to work with suttarit lalarb? Can't imagine they would replace a costume designer this late in production.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Fleabag is her dark side and psychotic assassin in Killing Eve... Phoebe Waller-Bridge on the shows that have made her name – and how she's going to spice up Bond
    https://dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7001777/Phoebe-Waller-Bridge-shows-shes-going-spice-Bond.html

    Today, when we meet in LA, she's thinking about Bond.

    Or rather, she's trying not to think about it too much because that way madness lies.

    'It's amazing to be part of something that has such a history and that you know will reach so many people.

    'But I can't think about that too much because I just go, "Whoa!"

    So when I start to do that, I stop myself and zone back into the writing, thinking of the characters as just people who are going to say things, like in any script.

    'But, yes, it is exciting too!'

    [...] Daniel discussed ways to improve the Bond script with her, and apparently he liked what the off-beat comedian had to say about it, because last month it was announced she'd been hired to polish the script with her trademark 'wit and quirkiness'.

    'Although it's a proper collaboration,' she adds hastily.

    'We have a script and we're continuing to work on it, all of us floating ideas around and creating characters together.

    'I love the character of Bond. I love that he exists in a grey area, in that he does terrible things and yet he does them for the right reasons.

    Nowadays we have questions about patriotism – is it worth all of this that Bond does, is it worth taking a life? I think these are very pertinent questions these days.'

    Ask her what it's like to be only the second female Bond writer ever (the first was Johanna Harwood, who worked on Dr No and From Russia With Love) and she shrugs.

    'I'm delighted to be part of it. The franchise is headed by a woman, Barbara Broccoli, and certainly during Daniel's tenure there have been some amazing female characters.

    'I hope to continue that and bring in whatever spice I can to it.'

    She carefully doesn't add that it undoubtedly attracted Daniel when considering her that of all five writers currently credited on the project – the others being Bond veterans Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, Scott Z Burns, and director Fukunaga – she is not just the only woman writer, but the only writer who's also an actor.

    But it becomes plain from talking to her that this is something that's very much on her mind.

    'You've got to make sure the actors have something fun to work with,' she says firmly.

    'I don't mean fun as in, "Woo-hoo!" But I do find, from an actor's point of view, that playing something that shows a twist, or a surprise, or something about a character that people didn't expect to see, is something that really grounds me in my character.

    'One thing I'm doing here is making sure there's an authenticity to these characters so that the actors have something solid they can hold onto.'
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