No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 14,998
    Nowhere in the article did they mention that this was going to happen though. The translated quote:

    "Imagine a car chase down Trollstigen and base jumping, in typical Bond style", says Borch.

    And yet, he has probably given them a few tips.

    Yeah, no doubt!
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 4,057
    Well if we get a car chase down Trollstigen and base jumping then we know who to thank :D
  • Posts: 3,881
    Walecs wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    I still don't get the hate for that song. Is it the lyrics or the pitch (or what) that annoys some people?

    Same. I can see people disliking the lyrics for being too sappy or Smith's falsetto, but the instrumental is beautiful and very Bondian.

    But if you don’t enjoy Smith’s performance it’s hard to enjoy the instrumentation.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited January 2019 Posts: 4,010
    vzok wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    I still don't get the hate for that song. Is it the lyrics or the pitch (or what) that annoys some people?

    Same. I can see people disliking the lyrics for being too sappy or Smith's falsetto, but the instrumental is beautiful and very Bondian.

    But if you don’t enjoy Smith’s performance it’s hard to enjoy the instrumentation.

    The instrumentation sounds like a pastiche, it's like a blatant Bond like sound with none of the class. The vocal performance is totally inappropriate for Bond.

    Also, the subject is not very strong in the film, it certainly isn't We Have All The Time In The World for feck’s sake!

    Maybe if the love story element didn't feel so false it might have worked.

    I do hope Bond 25 has a balls out theme with some grit, Arctic Monkeys please.

  • Posts: 11,425
    Shardlake wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    I still don't get the hate for that song. Is it the lyrics or the pitch (or what) that annoys some people?

    Same. I can see people disliking the lyrics for being too sappy or Smith's falsetto, but the instrumental is beautiful and very Bondian.

    But if you don’t enjoy Smith’s performance it’s hard to enjoy the instrumentation.

    The instrumentation sounds like a pastiche, it's like a blatant Bond like sound with none of the class. The vocal performance is totally inappropriate for Bond.

    Also, the subject is not very strong in the film, it certainly isn't We Have All The Time In The World for feck’s sake!

    Maybe if the love story element didn't feel so false it might have worked.

    I do hope Bond 25 has a balls out theme with some grit, Arctic Monkeys please.

    I actually think it's a decent song but it definitely doesn't resonate with whats on the screen.

    Much better than Garbage, Madge and Sheryl IMO.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Dancing at midnight under the BeBop Moon
    Posts: 11,756
    Smith's song? I cannot stand his voice, ruins it. I enjoy it only as instrumental, woven into the film a bit. During PTS I could tolerate it because of the orchestra and what I was watching on the screen; that's it. With a different singer, it would have been fine for a Bond film, even lovely.

    I am so thrilled about Norway. :)
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 5,200
    Why are we discussing the song from the previous entry on this thread? I forgot why. Anyone?

    Anyways, what are the chances that the drone footage made by Fukunaga was training of some sort?
  • jammy_bjammy_b UK
    Posts: 6
    Shardlake wrote: »

    I do hope Bond 25 has a balls out theme with some grit, Arctic Monkeys please.

    Totally agree with this sentiment, but not sure Arctic Monkeys are really ‘balls out’ or have a powerful vocal for a Bond Theme. Bruce Dickinson would be great and he makes two Bond references within the first 100 pages of his book, likely a fan. Otherwise I’d love Muse or as an (maybe) out there suggestion Inglorious...

    ————

    Maybe the Castle of Death will be located in Norway instead of Japan? (Yes I’m fairly convinced the unused YOLT literary plot will be utilised!)
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,647
    I’m in NYC for the weekend & there are pictures of Daniel out and about shopping in the city from today. Wishfully thinking I’ll run in to him on the street. Lol
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,010
    jammy_b wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »

    I do hope Bond 25 has a balls out theme with some grit, Arctic Monkeys please.

    Totally agree with this sentiment, but not sure Arctic Monkeys are really ‘balls out’ or have a powerful vocal for a Bond Theme. Bruce Dickinson would be great and he makes two Bond references within the first 100 pages of his book, likely a fan. Otherwise I’d love Muse or as an (maybe) out there suggestion Inglorious...

    ————

    Maybe the Castle of Death will be located in Norway instead of Japan? (Yes I’m fairly convinced the unused YOLT literary plot will be utilised!)

    Bruce Dickinson and Iron Maiden have about as much chance as I have of doing the next Bond theme and you know it.

    The Arctic's are far more likely than that although it's likely to be Ed Sheeran if they want another hit and possible academy award.

    I certainly hope it's not ES but after Smith's appointment I wonder.
  • Posts: 8,385
    Univex wrote: »
    Why are we discussing the song from the previous entry on this thread? I forgot why. Anyone?

    Anyways, what are the chances that the drone footage made by Fukunaga was training of some sort?

    Because my conversation on what toppings would 007 put on his hot dog went nowhere
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 8,156
    I relish Fukunaga's drone footage. A surprise.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 1,741
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/next-christopher-nolan-film-open-july-2020-1179373

    Sorry @PanchitoPistoles, I don't think your hero's working on this one. That being said, yes, I do think he's a great director.
  • Posts: 2,179
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Because my conversation on what toppings would 007 put on his hot dog went nowhere

    Bond would rather eat broken glass than a hotdog!

  • Revelator wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Because my conversation on what toppings would 007 put on his hot dog went nowhere

    Bond would rather eat broken glass than a hotdog!

    I could see Bond eating a hot dog if he's undercover in New York or some similar place.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,090
    Getafix wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    I still don't get the hate for that song. Is it the lyrics or the pitch (or what) that annoys some people?

    Same. I can see people disliking the lyrics for being too sappy or Smith's falsetto, but the instrumental is beautiful and very Bondian.

    But if you don’t enjoy Smith’s performance it’s hard to enjoy the instrumentation.

    The instrumentation sounds like a pastiche, it's like a blatant Bond like sound with none of the class. The vocal performance is totally inappropriate for Bond.

    Also, the subject is not very strong in the film, it certainly isn't We Have All The Time In The World for feck’s sake!

    Maybe if the love story element didn't feel so false it might have worked.

    I do hope Bond 25 has a balls out theme with some grit, Arctic Monkeys please.

    I actually think it's a decent song but it definitely doesn't resonate with whats on the screen.

    Much better than Garbage, Madge and Sheryl IMO.

    Can't agree with that at all except for maybe M's DAD which still kind of worked within the context of what was being shown compared to WOTW's pretentious bs.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,058
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I’m in NYC for the weekend & there are pictures of Daniel out and about shopping in the city from today. Wishfully thinking I’ll run in to him on the street. Lol

    @DonnyDB5 : Did you see my earlier post on this?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
    edited January 2019 Posts: 7,252
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/next-christopher-nolan-film-open-july-2020-1179373

    Sorry @PanchitoPistoles, I don't think your hero's working on this one. That being said, yes, I do think he's a great director.

    But it does set him up nicely for Bond 26, scheduling wise. ;)

    The fact Bond is headed to Norway suggest that the team at EON did go and see MI6, and decide to use that film as a basis for inspiration, much like they did with TDK in Skyfall. At least we know they aren't running away from the challenge, but still its hard to see how they could use a location better than McQ and Cruise did. And they are inviting comparisons somewhat.
  • Posts: 4,619
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/next-christopher-nolan-film-open-july-2020-1179373

    Sorry @PanchitoPistoles, I don't think your hero's working on this one. That being said, yes, I do think he's a great director.
    Of course he isn’t. Bond 26 will be the one directed by him.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited January 2019 Posts: 2,541
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/next-christopher-nolan-film-open-july-2020-1179373

    Sorry @PanchitoPistoles, I don't think your hero's working on this one. That being said, yes, I do think he's a great director.

    But it does set him up nicely for Bond 26, scheduling wise. ;)

    The fact Bond is headed to Norway suggest that the team at EON did go and see MI6, and decide to use that film as a basis for inspiration, much like they did with TDK in Skyfall. At least we know they aren't running away from the challenge, but still its hard to see how they could use a location better than McQ and Cruise did. And they are inviting comparisons somewhat.

    There is no comparison here because fallout only shot a single scene which lasted a few minutes for cliff fight , bond does Way more than that using location for a whole lot of sequence especially after they are getting so much incentive.
  • Smith's song? I cannot stand his voice, ruins it. I enjoy it only as instrumental, woven into the film a bit. During PTS I could tolerate it because of the orchestra and what I was watching on the screen; that's it. With a different singer, it would have been fine for a Bond film, even lovely.


    The song is rather good, but as soon as he starts singing, (he starts with a groan/whine), it doesn't work as a Bond theme.
    He sounds like he's lost the power cable to his X box.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Bruce Dickinson - why has he never done a Bond song. That would have been awesome in the 80s. He could have replaced Madge on DAD and done the fencing scene bit but for real...
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 5,767
    Tuulia wrote: »
    "Not aware" just won't cut it, when the stuff has been (reasonably) public knowledge for over 20 years - multiple accusers, articles, a documentary film years ago... I kinda expect Hugh Jackman etc. will say they had absolutely no idea either. Somehow people who work with and hung out with the guy are "not aware" when people who don't even personally know anyone who works in the industry do. Rrright.
    No this is never OT, because in fact most of what is deemed common Knowledge About People in the film Business is based on media outlets. For all we know, it could very well turn out that anyone involved in any film production has criminal tendencies. Don´t get me wrong, I´m not saying Singer´s innocent, or that everyone else is guilty. But who knows, perhaps actors would get crazy and paranoid if they read what the media write About certain directors or Producers, or they wouldn´t know anymore who to work for at all. Perhaps actors prefer to ask around personally how this or that director is to work with, and then, as Long as you´re not a teenage Boy anymore, you might not hear much About Singer chasing boys. And even though I didn´t see BoRap, I find it obvious that Malek spent a lot of time and Energy preparing for his role, so if he really was on board before Singer was attached, I´m not sure I would blame him for going through with it. As for what he´s going to say now, after the release of the film, I´m sure most actors are screwed between a rock and a hard place, because the whole Business is based on diplomacy.


    GetCarter wrote: »
    Diane Lane would’ve been a ripping Bond girl in her pomp, circa 1984-85. Imagine her in place of Tanya Roberts in AVTAK.
    No other actress would have squealed, "James!" as effectively as Tanya Roberts.



    Tuck91 wrote: »
    Oberhausers base was excellent from the silver wraith introduction, meteorite and control room.
    Agreed. The best stuff Mendes did in his two films.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ostandia
    Posts: 39,929
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I’m in NYC for the weekend & there are pictures of Daniel out and about shopping in the city from today. Wishfully thinking I’ll run in to him on the street. Lol

    Why not? I ran into Lisa Bonet, Lenny Kravitz and Mickey Rooney in New York.
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 6,426
    jobo wrote: »
    I am very curious to see which locations in Norway they have been scouting and which they will eventually go for. There are many spectacular ones to choose from.

    There was this article from Dagbladet published in 2017, where they interviewed Per Henry Borch (of Truenorth Norway – applicant of B25). Here he tells that the producers scouted locations in western Norway, and that shooting here was unlikely due to the (then current) incentive scheme and it's application deadline. He also mentioned the possibility of filming a PTS involving a car chase down Trollstigen, and base jumping.

    https://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/hollywood-snuser-pa-vestlandet-med-ny-og-enorm-james-bond-derfor-vraker-de-trolig-norge/68763567

    The interesting bit is that the scouting took place in 2017.

    Edit: and accoring to the videos linked by @Pierce2Daniel, Fukunaga visited Trollstigen last summer.

    Hm. I also visited Trollstigen last summer! Bond is following me! ;)

    It would be a good choice for an action scene. A tight, old style road with plenty of european tourist vans, who in reality are far too big to drive there... They would make a good obstacle for Bond to manoever around (I had to struggle myself in my own car...) ;)

    I hope it is not the only location they will use. I would love to see Lofoten, Nerøyfjorden, Geiranger etc... And I have always thought Dalsnibba is a very Bobdian occation (a few miles south of Trollstigen).

    https://goo.gl/images/Ti8PXL

  • Posts: 5,767
    It's a surprisingly big amount though – 47m out of a total of 75m. That should go a long way to suggest this is indeed Bond 25. On top of that, it's all over the news here now. From NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation):

    https://www.nrk.no/kultur/james-bond-far-millioner-i-statsstotte-for-a-filme-i-norge-1.14398132

    Edit: The statement includes one interesting piece though (translated):
    "We're happy that the production of the movie with the preliminary title B25 is considering shooting in Norway. The 47m grant offered the production is the largest in the incentive scheme's history."

    Edit 2: In comparison, Mission Impossible: Fallout was offered 6m, and Snømannen (The Snowman) – set in Norway, got 40,5m.

    Edit 3: James Bond-magasinet seems to think it's happening (although EON must accept the offer from the Film institute).
    Those numbers don´t fail to impress me.

    As do These numbers:
    peter wrote: »
    re: the Norway incentives. That's about 5 million dollars US?

    Yep. $5.4m. In contrast, the Mexico tax incentives for SP were $20m.

  • edited January 2019 Posts: 6,426
    Come to think of it, I completely forgot about this place I also visited this summer, Hoven Restaurant! It is built on a cliff 1000 meters above the fjord beneath, with a skylift!

    https://www.loenskylift.no/restaurant/

    https://goo.gl/images/N7WKb3

    https://goo.gl/images/UXouBb

    https://goo.gl/images/FHTZ8v
  • Posts: 5,767
    Denbigh wrote: »
    So, a possible PTS car chase down Trollstigen with Sandgren's digital cinematograpgy? Yes please.

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    What I suggested years ago: A car chase along serpentines, with a motorbike taking shortcuts straight down the slope :-).

  • edited January 2019 Posts: 5,767
    Shardlake wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    I still don't get the hate for that song. Is it the lyrics or the pitch (or what) that annoys some people?

    Same. I can see people disliking the lyrics for being too sappy or Smith's falsetto, but the instrumental is beautiful and very Bondian.

    But if you don’t enjoy Smith’s performance it’s hard to enjoy the instrumentation.

    The instrumentation sounds like a pastiche, it's like a blatant Bond like sound with none of the class. The vocal performance is totally inappropriate for Bond.

    Also, the subject is not very strong in the film, it certainly isn't We Have All The Time In The World for feck’s sake!

    Maybe if the love story element didn't feel so false it might have worked.

    I do hope Bond 25 has a balls out theme with some grit, Arctic Monkeys please.
    This post all the way.


    Getafix wrote: »
    Bruce Dickinson - why has he never done a Bond song. That would have been awesome in the 80s. He could have replaced Madge on DAD and done the fencing scene bit but for real...
    Haha, yes, indeed! Well, he still could do both!

    And just for the record: I suggested Iron Maiden years ago. They even have a record of working with synths and strings. In then Hands of the Right Producer they would be true Gold!
  • edited January 2019 Posts: 14,998
    jobo wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    I am very curious to see which locations in Norway they have been scouting and which they will eventually go for. There are many spectacular ones to choose from.

    There was this article from Dagbladet published in 2017, where they interviewed Per Henry Borch (of Truenorth Norway – applicant of B25). Here he tells that the producers scouted locations in western Norway, and that shooting here was unlikely due to the (then current) incentive scheme and it's application deadline. He also mentioned the possibility of filming a PTS involving a car chase down Trollstigen, and base jumping.

    https://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/hollywood-snuser-pa-vestlandet-med-ny-og-enorm-james-bond-derfor-vraker-de-trolig-norge/68763567

    The interesting bit is that the scouting took place in 2017.

    Edit: and accoring to the videos linked by @Pierce2Daniel, Fukunaga visited Trollstigen last summer.

    Hm. I also visited Trollstigen last summer! Bond is following me! ;)

    It would be a good choice for an action scene. A tight, old style road with plenty of european tourist vans, who in reality are far too big to drive there... They would make a good obstacle for Bond to manoever around (I had to struggle myself in my own car...) ;)

    I hope it is not the only location they will use. I would love to see Lofoten, Nerøyfjorden, Geiranger etc... And I have always thought Dalsnibba is a very Bobdian occation (a few miles south of Trollstigen).

    https://goo.gl/images/Ti8PXL

    Or maybe the production is? :))

    Always wanted to visit those locations myself, but I've never had the opportunity. Depending on where (and if) they shoot, I'll probably prioritize visiting that location!

    Did you stop by Trollstigen Kafé by the way? I like the sharp lines and "dramatic" look of that building:

    trollstigen-3.jpg?resize=1024%2C683

    boldfinger wrote: »
    As do These numbers:
    peter wrote: »
    re: the Norway incentives. That's about 5 million dollars US?

    Yep. $5.4m. In contrast, the Mexico tax incentives for SP were $20m.

    Mexico offered a crazy amount in incentives!
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