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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,276
    Just have to hold out a little while longer. By January/February, things should start to get interesting.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    It was always quite inconsistent in terms of casting and whatnot, anyway.

    I do remember Bardem being rumoured for the villain role around March of 2011 (turns out it was February), while Berenice Marlohe was mentioned to have been cast around August or September if my memory serves me right.

    As for Spectre, the first cast member rumour was Lea Seydoux which also came at the end of summer 2014, while Waltz confirmed his involvement in November that year. Monica Bellucci's involvement was kept under wraps up until two days before the press conference took place.

    Although, it's very likely we might not get any cast rumours this year. My bet is on February where we get important set of information regarding the film's production. Perhaps the press conference will take place in that month, too?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,990
    Could be for any reason. And any number of potential international cast members (just speculating: Ken Watanabe as Tiger Tanaka? Russell Crowe as Dikko Henderson?) could very easily be in L.A.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Very good casting!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    I think news of casting will happen in Jan./Feb. That is okay, as the whole game changed with Cary coming on board. I am sure there is a whole lot happening behind the scenes, just nothing we can know about yet.

    I would like some news on anything at all - cinematographer would be perfect for me - for Christmas. ;) But that is just my own wishful hope. I'm not concerned, though.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    Ken Watanabe I adore, but I think he would deserve only a major villain or strong ally role. I wouldn't want him in a smaller part (though always happy to see him, like in Inception - love that film and him in it).
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited November 2018 Posts: 6,677
    4EverBonded wrote: »
    Ken Watanabe I adore, but I think he would deserve only a major villain or strong ally role. I wouldn't want him in a smaller part (though always happy to see him, like in Inception - love that film and him in it).

    Tiger Tanaka is no small role. On the contrary. He's one of Fleming's best characters. I call my 2017 grey edition miata Tanaka ;)
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited November 2018 Posts: 12,459
    I was highly doubting Tiger would be brought back, same character. Of course that's a great role. I expect new characters in Bond 25. Cary did mention going to the source material, and I think mentioned Fleming by name? maybe not. This new script could go anywhere - using Tiger but not the same story or even close to it. I just meant if Ken W. is in it, I don't want a lesser role for him. Strong ally that gets some screen time (as much as Colombo in FYEO or Kerim in FRWL would be nice).
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,459
    I wouldn't mind some twist off of YOLT at all, but I doubt there will be any real following through on that story. I want Bond in Japan - it would be glorious - even if briefly.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    Charles Gray was completely miscast as both Dikko Henderson and Blofeld
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    edited November 2018 Posts: 6,844
    Univex wrote: »
    4EverBonded wrote: »
    Ken Watanabe I adore, but I think he would deserve only a major villain or strong ally role. I wouldn't want him in a smaller part (though always happy to see him, like in Inception - love that film and him in it).

    Tiger Tanaka is no small role. On the contrary. He's one of Fleming's best characters. I call my 2017 grey edition miata Tanaka ;)

    So you put a Tiger in your tank?
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Charles Gray was completely miscast as both Dikko Henderson and Blofeld

    Without question, and a shame in both cases. Both were superbly drawn characters in Fleming's YOLT.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    I think Christopher Plummer is too old to play a villain now, but I think he'd be great in a smaller role as a character similar to Colonel Smithers from GF, or Sir Donald Munger from DAF.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
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    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

  • ringfire211ringfire211
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    Speaking of Christopher Plummer as Bond villain let’s remember that before Joaquin Phoenix played him Plummer was the first Commodus in Anthony Mann’s epic THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE back in 1964. He was definitely the highlight of the film! A complete madman!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Charles Gray was completely miscast as both Dikko Henderson and Blofeld

    The way Dikko was written for the YOLT script, although not being the loose and easy Aussie from the novel, was perfectly portrayed by Charles Gray (a confused, slightly slurring, ex-pat).

    But as Blofeld, NO. Yet, in this silly version of Bond's world in DAF, I say: okay... Weird... But... ok...
  • ringfire211ringfire211
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    peter wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Charles Gray was completely miscast as both Dikko Henderson and Blofeld

    The way Dikko was written for the YOLT script, although not being the loose and easy Aussie from the novel, was perfectly portrayed by Charles Gray (a confused, slightly slurring, ex-pat).

    But as Blofeld, NO. Yet, in this silly version of Bond's world in DAF, I say: okay... Weird... But... ok...
    Yep I absolutely adore Charles Gray as Henderson. As limited as his screentime was he absolutely made the most of it. I love his musings about getting the vodka from the doorman at the Russian embassy (among other things lol) and his “stirred, not shaken” line (great!!). His death is still my favorite in the entire series! I remember my jaw hitting the floor when I first saw it. I was like why is he just standing there and not talking? Why does he look frozen? Definitely did not expect a silent knife in the back through a wall.

    I loved Tetsuro Tamba as Tanaka as well! Big fan of YOLT in general.

  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    edited November 2018 Posts: 6,844
    peter wrote: »
    But as Blofeld, NO. Yet, in this silly version of Bond's world in DAF, I say: okay... Weird... But... ok...

    I’ll give Gray that for his Blofeld. He worked okay for DAF, a film already laden with much goofiness and the un-Bondlike cheapness of Las Vegas. He was an okay sort of parody Blofeld.
  • CraterGunsCraterGuns
    Posts: 615
    << MOD EDIT: Drop the politics and focus on B25. >>

    That'd be groovy... as long as that edict also applies to rants about so-called "Social Justice Warriors" (SJWs). Merely using the term constitutes starting a POLITICAL argument -- at least it does here in America.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

    No ridiculous is what people think that helicopter stunt was anywhere near QOS Airdog fight. If anyone remember what happened in Spectre bond was trying to save Madeline instead risking her life by crashing the plane. Same thing happened in fallout instead of trying to save detonator his great plan was to smash both helicopter, he could have shoot the rotor like what happened in Spectre ending. But let's move on to bond25 some like it some Don't.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    Posts: 646
    Resurrection wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

    No ridiculous is what people think that helicopter stunt was anywhere near QOS Airdog fight. If anyone remember what happened in Spectre bond was trying to save Madeline instead risking her life by crashing the plane. Same thing happened in fallout instead of trying to save detonator his great plan was to smash both helicopter, he could have shoot the rotor like what happened in Spectre ending. But let's move on to bond25 some like it some Don't.
    Are you serious about this? I’m convinced you’re pulling my leg here. The QOS dogfight? It’s horrible. Terribly shot, terribly edited, with embarrassing CGI on top of all that. Then comes that horrible CGI “skydive/freefall”. Uggh! It’s all almost as bad as the wretched boat chase in the same movie, where no one can even tell what the heck happened. I’d rather take silly rear projection from a Connery or Moore film over that mess that you call a dogfight. Sheesh! By the way, did Craig actually fly that DC-3? No of course not. Whereas Cruise actually learned to fly a helicopter (from scratch) to film that breathtaking sequence against the background of all those cliffs in New Zealand, including all those crazy dives and maneuvers. Yes, that’s Cruise doing all that stuff which even experienced pilots consider dangerous. Yes that’s him inside the copter and the camera right there with him. Seriously, man. Gimme a break! You’re out of your depth on this one. It’s a superior sequence from every possible aspect - story, cinematography, technical, suspense, etc.

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited November 2018 Posts: 12,459
    If you enjoy MI films, that's fine. I don't watch them, but I saw the first two. I still feel they have not been a fair comparison to Bond yet they are brought up time and again. Just because of the stunts? Well, I don't look at Bond to "out-stunt" other films. I want the action to be awesome, yes, and to fit the story and bigger is definitely not always, or even often, better.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,985
    4EverBonded wrote: »
    If you enjoy MI films, that's fine. I don't watch them, but I saw the first two. I still feel they have not been a fair comparison to Bond yet they are brought up time and again. Just because of the stunts? Well, I don't look at Bond to "out-stunt" other films. I want the action to be awesome, yes, and to fit the story and bigger is definitely not always, or even often, better.

    If you’ve only seen the first two then you really can’t judge. What’s been discussed, at length, in other topics is how the most recent three MI films compare to the most recent three Bond films . The MI films have excelled, and in turn exceeded Bond,in virtually every category, not only stunt work.

  • boldfingerboldfinger
    Posts: 5,767
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

    No ridiculous is what people think that helicopter stunt was anywhere near QOS Airdog fight. If anyone remember what happened in Spectre bond was trying to save Madeline instead risking her life by crashing the plane. Same thing happened in fallout instead of trying to save detonator his great plan was to smash both helicopter, he could have shoot the rotor like what happened in Spectre ending. But let's move on to bond25 some like it some Don't.
    Are you serious about this? I’m convinced you’re pulling my leg here. The QOS dogfight? It’s horrible. Terribly shot, terribly edited, with embarrassing CGI on top of all that. Then comes that horrible CGI “skydive/freefall”. Uggh! It’s all almost as bad as the wretched boat chase in the same movie, where no one can even tell what the heck happened. I’d rather take silly rear projection from a Connery or Moore film over that mess that you call a dogfight. Sheesh! By the way, did Craig actually fly that DC-3? No of course not. Whereas Cruise actually learned to fly a helicopter (from scratch) to film that breathtaking sequence against the background of all those cliffs in New Zealand, including all those crazy dives and maneuvers. Yes, that’s Cruise doing all that stuff which even experienced pilots consider dangerous. Yes that’s him inside the copter and the camera right there with him. Seriously, man. Gimme a break! You’re out of your depth on this one. It’s a superior sequence from every possible aspect - story, cinematography, technical, suspense, etc.
    Look, there could be Arguments About Stunts without end, because so many Things come into the individual perception. So there´s no Need to get all too excited About it ;-).

  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited November 2018 Posts: 2,541
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

    No ridiculous is what people think that helicopter stunt was anywhere near QOS Airdog fight. If anyone remember what happened in Spectre bond was trying to save Madeline instead risking her life by crashing the plane. Same thing happened in fallout instead of trying to save detonator his great plan was to smash both helicopter, he could have shoot the rotor like what happened in Spectre ending. But let's move on to bond25 some like it some Don't.
    Are you serious about this? I’m convinced you’re pulling my leg here. The QOS dogfight? It’s horrible. Terribly shot, terribly edited, with embarrassing CGI on top of all that. Then comes that horrible CGI “skydive/freefall”. Uggh! It’s all almost as bad as the wretched boat chase in the same movie, where no one can even tell what the heck happened. I’d rather take silly rear projection from a Connery or Moore film over that mess that you call a dogfight. Sheesh! By the way, did Craig actually fly that DC-3? No of course not. Whereas Cruise actually learned to fly a helicopter (from scratch) to film that breathtaking sequence against the background of all those cliffs in New Zealand, including all those crazy dives and maneuvers. Yes, that’s Cruise doing all that stuff which even experienced pilots consider dangerous. Yes that’s him inside the copter and the camera right there with him. Seriously, man. Gimme a break! You’re out of your depth on this one. It’s a superior sequence from every possible aspect - story, cinematography, technical, suspense, etc.

    No I am not trying to pull anything QOS boat chase was bad but not the plane chase it was shot completely real except the sky diving. Horrible CGI is what I call from 1st mi film not QOS. Yes cruise did fly a chopper but it was far from dangerous lol and seem more dumb than any of above you stated, can cruise fly like Chuck Aaron stunt pilot who has many years of experience doing that who did backflip in Spectre which was more dangerous what cruise try to pretend in fallout. If you look closely chopper smash and crash was completely bad CGI in fallout at least in Spectre they completely shot real plane crash in Austria, so don't tell me what he does. At least bond films has some originality not trying to copy others especially when it comes to story telling mission impossible franchise doesn't have any story or screenplay fallout Director himself said this a few days back.As I said before I would rather see an stuntman doing an excellent stunt than the actor doing an average one.

    https://screenrant.com/mission-impossible-fallout-script-christopher-mcquarrie/
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

    It didn't amaze me. To be honest I had stopped caring about the movie at that point. The only things I truly loved about Fallout were the bike chase and a few music tracks. That's it. I honestly have no interest in rewatching it and I would still take SPECTRE over it, even though it's a mess. I find QoS and Skyfall overly superior to any Mission Impossible movies.
    Resurrection wrote: »
    ringfire211 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Seeing as Bond can no longer outdo MI franchise for stunts and action I just hope Fukanaga has some decent script to work with

    The only mission impossible stunt which was outdone was Burj khalifa sequence. I have seen much better helicopter/foot/bike/boat/car chase in bond films. Casino Royale parkour sequence/ quantum of solace car chase/plane sequence/skyfall bike chase were rated best in years.
    Are you serious about a Bond film having a better helicopter sequence than the one at the finale of FALLOUT? Forget Burj Khalifa - the helicopter stunt at the end of FALLOUT was the most spectacular action sequence of the entire M:I series! And here you say that Bond films have done better helicopter stunts than that one. Which one exactly? Look, I love Bond films but this is a ridiculous statement to make.

    No ridiculous is what people think that helicopter stunt was anywhere near QOS Airdog fight.

    +1
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    Walecs wrote: »
    It didn't amaze me. To be honest I had stopped caring about the movie at that point. The only things I truly loved about Fallout were the bike chase and a few music tracks. That's it. I honestly have no interest in rewatching it and I would still take SPECTRE over it, even though it's a mess. I find QoS and Skyfall overly superior to any Mission Impossible movies.

    Same here, although I did watch it twice. Bond is in another league. Love the QOS Airdog fight btw, minus the parachute scene.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    The lack of news/rumours is starting to really worry me. It's starting to feel a lot like it did back in late August, right before Boyle's departure was announced.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,124
    In lighter non-political and something that is happening in the world of James Bond news, who's ready for Oddjob this week?

    https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/james-bond-007-issue-1-first-look-greg-pak
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,571
    Unrequired political comments removed. Thanks for the flag.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    I just want Bond25 to Trump the action in MI Fallout.
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