No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    I don't get the complaints about Craig's build. Some of you are talking like he's Dwayne Johnson huge. The "biggest" Craig's been was in CR and anyone who takes their fitness seriously enough and by that I mean using weights not even in a religious way can easily look similar. QoS onwards, Craig was leaner, again, nothing special or extraordinary about it. Work out with weights and cardio 2 hours a day; 6 days a week and again similar results will be achieved.

    Craig’s physique is fine and has never been an issue. His physique is pretty standard for someone who is disciplined with their workouts. The real problem are his tight suits in SF and SP.
  • 001001
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    Do you think Daniel craig has a lisp ? I think he has.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Eh? I don't think so.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'd prefer a less built Bond next time out. I don't mind lean muscle, but #1 for me is to look good in the suits. A refined appearance would be my preference.
  • 001001
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Eh? I don't think so.

    Watch cr at the start when he tells the dude "selling secrets"

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I'd prefer a less built Bond next time out. I don't mind lean muscle, but #1 for me is to look good in the suits. A refined appearance would be my preference.

    I think that Craig's physique in the last 3 Bond films have been reasonable; but maybe that's just me. The funny thing is, this was actually on my mind as I was watching QoS last night and Craig just looked impeccable in his suits and overall attire. It baffles me as to why on Earth they decided to go for an almost comical, ill-fitting look for his last 2 outings.

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    God I love those QoS suits. I'd kill to have any one of them in my wardrobe, and the color palettes evoke a lot of earthy elements expressed in the film, what with the blue steel tones, the browns, the grays, the charcoal blacks. Damn fine stuff.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I agree @doubleoego, his suits in QoS were first class and suited him perfectly. As has been speculated by others, it's either Temime, or Craig himself (most likely given his own attire) who wanted the tighter look.

    Although Craig looks great in those clips, I'd still prefer someone a bit taller and more lean next time out (but not too slim shouldered like Brosnan). Connery-like of course would be ideal, but even Dalton, Lazenby or early Moore type of physique would work for me. I find that body type just looks best in the suits and on film.
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    Oh it wasn't directed at you, @jake24. I do love dark elements and stuff... But, all this hatred for 'happy endings' is just putting me off further than before. Since when James Bond has been about miserable memoirs of a depressed man?

    Who said anything about hating 'happy endings'.

    Also, a film can be mainly up beat and then end on a downer and vice versa.

    Just feels like Craig deserves to go out on some epic note, not drivin away in the DB5
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Oh it wasn't directed at you, @jake24. I do love dark elements and stuff... But, all this hatred for 'happy endings' is just putting me off further than before. Since when James Bond has been about miserable memoirs of a depressed man?

    Who said anything about hating 'happy endings'.

    Also, a film can be mainly up beat and then end on a downer and vice versa.

    Just feels like Craig deserves to go out on some epic note, not drivin away in the DB5
    Lots of members, see the previous pages.

    Ending with a downer is exactly the anti-happy ending.

    While I would have preferred if the climax with Blofeld was by far more confrontational, and should have been interpreted in two films, seeing as the hint about his swansong is due, I don't want "Bond's story" to end with a downer like some have suggested. If Spectre's is how this Bond's story ended, I am satisfied with it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Oh it wasn't directed at you, @jake24. I do love dark elements and stuff... But, all this hatred for 'happy endings' is just putting me off further than before. Since when James Bond has been about miserable memoirs of a depressed man?

    Who said anything about hating 'happy endings'.

    Also, a film can be mainly up beat and then end on a downer and vice versa.

    Just feels like Craig deserves to go out on some epic note, not drivin away in the DB5
    He had more of a say in this than most of the other actors, so if he decides to leave the role, I'm sure he thought that ending through. The whole film sort of moved towards that moment.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    First off, I was a big Dan fan but with all the SP grumbling I am welcoming a change. Craig seems done so I'm done.

    If Craig returns then okay ...but ugh I don't want more of that SP pointless retread storyline and lame reincarnation of Blofeld.

    So yeah I'm wanting fresh.

    What's sad and I know it's just movies but I really do hate to see people leave because of casting. Yes, it's a legitimate reason to drop out but still ....oh well.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 11,425
    The relationship with Swann was a bit lame. Nothing was going to top Vesper I guess.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Getafix wrote: »
    The relationship with Swann was a bit lame.
    Definitely. They just didn't seem to click in any of their spoken dialogue, except perhaps that 'I love you' scene (which may have been why it was inserted, perhaps after a test screening, because it seemed so out of place otherwise).
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I hope you'll stay here for some balance @Mendes4Lyfe. There's been a deficit of Turner love at present (due to all the Hiddle rumours and beach kisses in high gear).

    Its a brutal business I'm afraid. Such a sadness that EON couldn't hold their nerve with Turner. To think they came that close, too. Nevermind, I'm sure hiring a member of the Bash Street Kids won't have any negative consequences for the franchise.

    I've said it before, but Turner would have completed the trilogy, with Connery and Dalton. Plus, he would've been Bond number 007. I mean, how perfect is that? It was all just coming together nicely, all slotting into place - and now this. Fucking tragic.

    Turner would have been 'fucking tragic'. Lack of screen presence and a boring safe choice.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    001 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Eh? I don't think so.

    Watch cr at the start when he tells the dude "selling secrets"

    Watched it. Not a lisp.
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    001 wrote: »
    Do you think Daniel craig has a lisp ? I think he has.

    No he does not.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 11,425
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    The relationship with Swann was a bit lame.
    Definitely. They just didn't seem to click in any of their spoken dialogue, except perhaps that 'I love you' scene (which may have been why it was inserted, perhaps after a test screening, because it seemed so out of place otherwise).

    Poor casting IMO.

    Not that Leah is a bad actress but she did not convince as love interest for Craig.

    Severine in SF was better although she had few scenes and was bumped off very early.


  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    The relationship with Swann was a bit lame.
    Definitely. They just didn't seem to click in any of their spoken dialogue, except perhaps that 'I love you' scene (which may have been why it was inserted, perhaps after a test screening, because it seemed so out of place otherwise).

    Poor casting IMO
    I've only seen her in MI-GP (she didn't say much there but looked great) but I've heard she's a good actress. I don't know what happened. All of her line delivery fell flat, and Craig looked more interested in the rat than her.

    I really believe they inserted the 'i love you' after the fact, and the same goes for the impromptu train sex. If you remove those two scenes, these two seem almost like brother and sister rather than lovers. He didn't even seem to give a toss when she said she was leaving him in London.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited June 2016 Posts: 5,185
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    The relationship with Swann was a bit lame.
    Definitely. They just didn't seem to click in any of their spoken dialogue, except perhaps that 'I love you' scene (which may have been why it was inserted, perhaps after a test screening, because it seemed so out of place otherwise).

    Poor casting IMO
    I've only seen her in MI-GP (she didn't say much there but looked great) but I've heard she's a good actress. I don't know what happened. All of her line delivery fell flat, and Craig looked more interested in the rat than her.

    I really believe they inserted the 'i love you' after the fact, and the same goes for the impromptu train sex. If you remove those two scenes, these two seem almost like brother and sister rather than lovers. He didn't even seem to give a toss when she said she was leaving him in London.

    Moneypenny was the sister in SP. Since she was ridiculing him constantly, and there was zero sexual tension... The relationship with madelinne was... I don't now what that was. but it wasn't much of anything, that much is clear
  • Posts: 11,425
    Yes. Agree. Harris has not been a great success I don't think - although could be a lot worse (Caroline Bliss?). Only Wishaw is very good of the new MI6 team. Fiennes is okay but would be better if he just stayed behind his desk.



  • edited June 2016 Posts: 9,824
    The days of just M staying behind a desk are kind of long gone but honestly in watching a lot of the older films I don't think it really existed period as m is behind a desk but out in the field at these weird make shift offices ever since you only live twice really....

    Also thanks to those who pointed out about Fleming's bond being morose but someone had said what is adapted from what and in my opinion here is where the Fleming novels lie mind you just my opinion warning the list is long

    Casino Royale:
    Where and what was used: well the cane gadget found its way into the world is not enough and outside of that the entire book was pretty much used verbatim in the 2006 film...
    What is left? Could they have another card game climax of use the books reason for Le Chiffe needing money (whore houses in France if I remeber) but I don't think they ever will but for the most part if has been used but not reused so maybe down the line

    Live and let die
    What is used and where: the novel has been split up into three films
    Live and let die: characters and title and one location
    For your eyes only: the torture sequence
    Licence to kill: Leiter getting eaten and a lot of Sanchez smuggling operation comes from the novel
    What is left? Well Mr. big's real name st Petersburg Florida as a location and the pirate gold smuggling all could be reworked for a film

    Moonraker:
    What has been used: good god what hasn't been used like live and let die the book has been adapted three times
    Moonraker: characters title and the torture sequence were lifted straight from the book
    Goldeneye: the main plot really borrows heavidly from the book (Trevellyan being scared in a similar way to Drax)
    Die another Day: the plot of the book was updated but is still extremly preasent in the book in fact after reading Moonraker I had new appreciation for purvis and Wade and a new hatred for Tamahori
    What is left: Gala brand m asking bond to smoke out a card cheat at the local club and that is it folks
    Diamonds are forever
    I find this book being split between two films
    Diamonds are forever: characters and some of the plot
    A view to a kill the horse race stuff and the cheating of Zorin could be I worked either by Diamonds or Licence renewed many claim the latter I feel the former makes more sense as to be honest I am not sure Michael G Wilson ever read any of the post Fleming novels. I know he has read all of Fleming and based on his tenure of writing scripts I can tell which books were his favorite and which were not...
    What is left: the Spang brothers and of course diamond smuggling could be reused again


    I figure I will stop there as already I pointed out you could develop a few films based on the above unused stuff alone 1 day I will go through all the novels but I figure the above is enough for the time being

    Btw I think we will get info regarding bond 25 this summer but it's not going to be anything too exciting largely I can see the next two headlines being released

    Warner Brothers pics up bond distribution rights

    And

    Matthew Weiner Neal Purvis and Robert Wade will write Bond 25
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    Germanlady wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    My gut feeling is Dan still have not made his mind up and until he does Eon will remain professional and silent.

    But what would take him so long? They must have mapped out some sort of idea,which he can take into consideration. I don't see this.


    Top actors can take a very long time to decide to take on a role, or reprise a role, or to decline it. My ex is a top casting director and I've seen her work on productions for way over a year or more just to nail down an actor (offered a lead role) to make a decision.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Getafix wrote: »
    The relationship with Swann was a bit lame. Nothing was going to top Vesper I guess.
    I agree about the relationship with Swann. It was just so off and jarring at how quickly she fell in love with Bond. She's not some air head; she, according to the movie would have us believe she's an intellectual and all too familiar with the trappings of the sort of life Bond leads. She spent half the movie pissed and disinterested in Bond and as soon as she develops some sort of favourable affection; it's immediately nothing less than love. This was a classic case of the Lupe Lamora effect and it was poorly handled.

    However, I think Craig needed at least one full blown tradtional Bond girl that lasts more than 5 bloody minutes before tackling a movie that explores him being in a love-relationship. The prospect of it really working is definitely there as a fair amount of time would have passed since Vesper and also because we get to see a more traditional relationship dynamic between Bond and a Bond girl.

    Sharing one rather awkwardly rushed kiss with Camille doesn't count, neither does Fields and Severing, as they had about 7 minutes of screen time if that and MP sure as hell doesn't count and neither does shag me up against the wall chick from the 10 second scene from SF and dont get me started on Sigman in the SP PTS. The Craig era post CR have done a rather frustrating job with the Bond girls and he really deserved a traditional Bond girl before exploring something more romantically heavy. Funny how Mendes was able to explore directing his ex wife in sexual relationships better than what he did with the Bond films. If only Kate Winslet was cast as a Bond girl...
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    The kiss with Camille is probably the most emotionally satisfying kiss of the whole series.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    The kiss with Camille is probably the most emotionally satisfying kiss of the whole series.

    To me it felt like Bond realised his movie was about to end and he hadn't scored yet; so he literally stole a kiss from Camille before the end credits started to roll.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited June 2016 Posts: 28,694
    I'm still upset we didn't get to see Camille again. She was a breath of fresh air, Bond girl wise, a great continuation off of the equally special Vesper.

    Same goes to the absence of Felix lately. The only way we'll see him now is if Dan does Bond 25, and, at the opening of the film at his and Madeleine's wedding (my dream), Felix arrives as a guest.
    doubleoego wrote: »
    The kiss with Camille is probably the most emotionally satisfying kiss of the whole series.

    To me it felt like Bond realised his movie was about to end and he hadn't scored yet; so he literally stole a kiss from Camille before the end credits started to roll.

    I quite like that, and it has crossed my mind that Bond near the end was aware that he wasn't getting lucky.

    "Dammit, ten minutes left, and it's all gonna get sucked up by that finale in Russia. Got to steal a kiss for the audience, and for me."

    It was her or M. :-&
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    And I can say I have never disliked a candidate as much as I do Hiddleston, who does nothing for me and I also cannot stand his looks. So not Bond. So that would be by far most upsetting news. I did not care at all for Clive Owen either, but Hiddleston would be such a poor choice and would be very unwelcome news for me.

    Not considering this a sure thing yet, though. We shall see.

    Now you know how I have felt for ALL of the past 10+ years ... (not that I find Hiddleston much of an improvement.) I pissed & moaned about Moore all through my youth, got a brief wonderful respite with Dalton, but never imagined I would actually give up seeing the movies in the theater, which is what happened now after the 50th ...

  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    trevanian wrote: »
    And I can say I have never disliked a candidate as much as I do Hiddleston, who does nothing for me and I also cannot stand his looks. So not Bond. So that would be by far most upsetting news. I did not care at all for Clive Owen either, but Hiddleston would be such a poor choice and would be very unwelcome news for me.

    Not considering this a sure thing yet, though. We shall see.

    Now you know how I have felt for ALL of the past 10+ years ... (not that I find Hiddleston much of an improvement.) I pissed & moaned about Moore all through my youth, got a brief wonderful respite with Dalton, but never imagined I would actually give up seeing the movies in the theater, which is what happened now after the 50th ...

    There's always that one "fan"...
  • 001001
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    001 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Eh? I don't think so.

    Watch cr at the start when he tells the dude "selling secrets"

    Watched it. Not a lisp.

    Read this strange story........

    With news that the first trailer for the 23rd James Bond movie, Skyfall, is coming next month, Sony has announced that is has been unable to prevent Daniel Craig from playing the iconic spy with a lisp.

    “He develops a lisp towards the end of the movie,” a spokesperson for Sony announced. “We’ve checked his contract, and if he wants to play Bond with a lisp, he can. We’re not permitted to dub at this stage.”

    It is though that Craig wanted to shake-up the role following the disappointing Quantum of Solace, and that he’ll continue to play James Bond with a lisp, should he sign on to the newly announced 24th James Bond movie, due in 2014,

    Craig plays Bond with lisp https://movierumors.wordpress.com/2012/04/26/craig-plays-bond-with-a-lisp/


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