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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    dalton wrote: »
    They can probably get it under budget by foregoing the photocopied pictures of past nemeses on the wall. Printer ink is awfully expensive, after all.

    I can't imagine how tough it was for Blofeld to be out of sight from Bond from CR to SF, snapping those pictures without him noticing, especially the one of Silva in his MI6 cage. Must've been damn tough.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    They can probably get it under budget by foregoing the photocopied pictures of past nemeses on the wall. Printer ink is awfully expensive, after all.

    I can't imagine how tough it was for Blofeld to be out of sight from Bond from CR to SF, snapping those pictures without him noticing, especially the one of Silva in his MI6 cage. Must've been damn tough.

    Sad thing is that they could have done something really cool with that sequence while still keeping the essence of it intact. Given how Mendes is big into homages, they could have turned that whole thing into an homage to the fun house in TMWTGG, with mannequins or animatronics built to look like Vesper, Le Chiffre, Silva, etc. and either make Bond relive some of those moments. Not that this would be the ideal way to end things either, but I think it would have been far better than Blofeld dropping by Kinkos on his way to London.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    dalton wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    They can probably get it under budget by foregoing the photocopied pictures of past nemeses on the wall. Printer ink is awfully expensive, after all.

    I can't imagine how tough it was for Blofeld to be out of sight from Bond from CR to SF, snapping those pictures without him noticing, especially the one of Silva in his MI6 cage. Must've been damn tough.

    Sad thing is that they could have done something really cool with that sequence while still keeping the essence of it intact. Given how Mendes is big into homages, they could have turned that whole thing into an homage to the fun house in TMWTGG, with mannequins or animatronics built to look like Vesper, Le Chiffre, Silva, etc. and either make Bond relive some of those moments. Not that this would be the ideal way to end things either, but I think it would have been far better than Blofeld dropping by Kinkos on his way to London.

    You can also improve that sequence by asking Thomas Newman to play some actual 'music' during it, and not just play the same 10 seconds cue of 'The Moors' on a loop for 5 minutes.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    Woow I didn't realize how Spectre got Eon into the corner till now that we are thinking of Bojd 26.

    Now there is a way to make a standalone flick with Craig and keep going with those in the future and that is making a small revenge flick in the pre tittles sequence where Madeline will be killed and a few seconds latter Bond goes and kills Blofeld.

    That way can proceed with a standalone mission and give Craig his send off with a new Bond girl in bed.

    So for Bond 26 we start with a new actor the Mi6 supporting cast stays but since now on all light and fun action standalone missions.

    they made a huge problem with Spectre which now all the fans we are trying to solve.

    When i watch Spectre i say woww i loved it but didn't realize the problem they caused my making Bond fall in love again and Madeline with her speech that she doesn't want that life and Blofeld personal connection.

    Or maybe the only solution is the reset Button (reboot) with a new actor but without an origin story just make it start with a good pre tittles sequence and latter be in a casino to be called for a mission and that way is a reboot that promises no more serialized films.


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    dalton wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    They can probably get it under budget by foregoing the photocopied pictures of past nemeses on the wall. Printer ink is awfully expensive, after all.

    I can't imagine how tough it was for Blofeld to be out of sight from Bond from CR to SF, snapping those pictures without him noticing, especially the one of Silva in his MI6 cage. Must've been damn tough.

    Sad thing is that they could have done something really cool with that sequence while still keeping the essence of it intact. Given how Mendes is big into homages, they could have turned that whole thing into an homage to the fun house in TMWTGG, with mannequins or animatronics built to look like Vesper, Le Chiffre, Silva, etc. and either make Bond relive some of those moments. Not that this would be the ideal way to end things either, but I think it would have been far better than Blofeld dropping by Kinkos on his way to London.

    You can also improve that sequence by asking Thomas Newman to play some actual 'music' during it, and not just play the same 10 seconds cue of 'The Moors' on a loop for 5 minutes.

    I've long given up on having decent music in a Bond film again. It's been largely pedestrian for the better part of 20 years now, and even on the occasions that we do get some decent music to accompany the film, it's blaring so loud that it does more to distract from what's going on than it does to enhance it.
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    The second person to just state that Craig is the best actor to play Bond today, despite no other actor even being given the opportunity for over 10 years. I'm sorry, I just don't see how Craig is so untouchably perfect as Bond. What is Craig going to give us with his fifth Bond film (at the age of 50+, after 10 years in the role) that will top what an actor could bring with their first? The Craig shtick is wearing thin at this point.

    What makes Dan as Bond so great, especially in a final fifth film? Well, to quote yourself, @Mendes4Lyfe, "I'm not going to make that more obvious. If you see it, you see it."

    I honestly don't know how people can't see the majesty that would come from Dan doing a last Bond film where the character deals with life after the bullets and blood, something we haven't seen before, mind you. Bond would be questioning his life purpose after all the missions and killing, trying to come to grips with what his identity is after MI6 and if he can truly settle down when those duties became more than just a part of him. The film would be unlike anything else in the Bond catalogue, its own separate story that explored a part of Bond unseen previously, just like OHMSS did way back in 69.

    We've never seen the last Bond story told before, where a Bond actor gets to tie off their era in a movie with actual finality to it before another actor comes along. Bond 25 told as the last Bond story would give us content we've never come close to seeing before on the big screen, and with Dan at the center of it all, you can't tell me that isn't tantalizing. The film would wrap up what was left in SP, give a concrete conclusion to Dan's era, and focus more on character and overall narrative strength over action and big budget thrills, which is something we obviously need to step away from. Tell a strong, character-centric Bond adventure that really digs deep into who he is as a man, and what his life after MI6 would be, pulling no punches.

    Mirror Bond's story with that of Blofeld's, who also feels uncomfortable and out of place with his new life, usurped from his SPECTRE throne and feeling powerless and transparent behind cell bars, subtracted from a world he hoped to control. Make the organization in ruin amidst a power struggle, with members turning on members, fractured and crumbling, a corrupt and futile machine, just as Ernst viewed MI6.

    Come on, now. Who wouldn't want to see that?

    Well said. And bravo.
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    Sorry Dalton, just to correct you, Roger Michell was offered both films CR and QoS. I saw an interview with him where he stated that he was sent the original script of CR before Paul Haggis did a rewrite, and said no. He met Barbara Broccoli after, who showed him the revised script and he claims it was very different, and that he would have accepted Directing it if it had of been that script he was offered!
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  • DisneyBond007DisneyBond007 Welwyn Garden City
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    Here's a very good treatment for Bond 25; wonder is how does the movie's plot looks like that i've reprise rather than Jake24's idea:

    Set two years after the events of Spectre, the opening shot begins with a gunbarrel and we can see Daniel Craig in the shot. The pre-titles begins with the outer space shot and the camera is heading towards our home planet Earth. The narration, in the background, said: "No one would've believe in the new years of the 21st century, the human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of space. No one could have dreamed we being scrutinised as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets. And yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded with envious eyes; and slowly and surely, they drawn their plan against us"

    The music begins with a remake version of a Medieval II Total War music Duke of Death based on the original 2006 version: As we see an exterior shot of Bond, in the DB5, being chased by the group of terrorist while Madeleine and the Armed Forces to rescue civilians from the group of terrorist. Bond shoots the enemy driver and explodes in the heart of Atlanta. He calls for backup to finish off the terrorist down. Blofeld becomes an ally of his original friend and rescuing Bond from the group of men. MI6 deserves victory, until the strange horn appeared. So what's is that strange horn; Could it be a Martian War or it's just a hoax?

    Another title sequence by Daniel Kleinman.

    An interior shot of an MI6 office in London shows a pile of newspapers reads "MI6 charged for involving in terror war". M have been upset about the MI6 charged with being involved in a terror war in Atlanta and reveals a strange horn from the other day. Bond asked M that he considered about a new war, but it's not World War III, as he claims the rumours of the existence of the Martian War. But M disagreed with Bond that it isn't real. Bond leaves the office and M discovered, in personal, that it was a real war that existed as he unveils it from the archives and saws the old footage of a war for the first time ever.

    On Mars, we can see the shot of the Martian general named Karken; a son of his father Julian; enters the War Council of Mars and speaks about the human race and suggesting another Martian War. the Martians agreed with the end of the human race and Karken reveals his new enemy of Commander James Bond 007. His father Julian enters the council and agreed with the Martians and his son that their will be another war but to kill Agent Bond as well.

    Back on Earth, an exterior shot of the House of Commons saw Bond talking to the MP named Harriet Jones about a future war that expected to be happen soon. Meanwhile on Hyde Park, Madeleine has a view of the city of London and meets the American agent Felix Leiter; a former CIA agent who was sacked by the Central Intelligence Agency and become involved with the FBI.

    In the interior shot of the MI6 office, M have in-talks with the United Taskforce (UNIT) to take on the alien race to be invaded on Earth for the night; He and the UNIT agreed to destroy the Martian race. In the army camp, we see the army preparing for war and blocked some of the roads off in order to build their own wall.

    Back on Mars, that night, we see the Martian army are ready for war and Julian taking his son Karken to a warships in order to invade the planet and destroy the human race. Thousands of Martian Warships takes off from Mars and heading towards Earth.

    In London, Bond was sitting on a chair in the rooftops of the MI6 office. But then, he saw a light in which means the war has begun. Bond rushes to the office and warns M that the start of the Martian War. M looks up at the window and sends his colleagues out of the office, Moneypenny tells M what's going on?

    Few of the Martian Warships flies towards Westminster and began to fire at the UNIT army. Blofeld and Felix join forces to take down the alien army but he has an idea: Blofeld will kill off some of the Martian army by a rocket launcher while Felix gundowned the Warships using the Tommy gun.

    The first of the Martian Warships landed in the parks of London and we see Karken (with his father Julian) along with his army gets out of a Warships. Karken saws Madeleine and Moneypenny runs towards the abandon building, but he with his army is getting after them. Meanwhile, Bond and M enters the BD5 and drives off into the London district of Soho but the Martians surround them. It was Karken's father Julian who sets a plan to block them off. Bond and M exits the car and Julian has a word with Bond. Bond kicks Julian and killed his soldiers. M quickly handcuffs Julian and has been executed. On Hyde Park, Madeleine and Moneypenny was trapped by Karken and his army. Just then, Blofeld and Felix told them to stay away but Karken disagreed. They decided to kill his soldiers first and knocks Karken out unconscious.

    Elsewhere, Bond and M, in the DB5, drives to rescue Madeleine and Moneypenny but although Blofeld and Felix have already rescued them. Bond quickly changed his mind that Blofeld calls him that he will be ready for Karken's execution. Bond and M arrived at the ruins of the MI6 headquarters where Blofeld, Felix, Q, Madeleine and Moneypenny have already there. Karken, with his handcuffs, gives Bond his last words. Bond executed him and the Martian have halted the war between the human race and their own race because their general died. They decided to kill the MI6 team instead and Bond and his team are ready for a final round. In slow motion, we see Bond and his friends battling the Martians alongside with the UNIT. Bond with his friends deserves victory and the city of London returns to normal.

    The very good ending scene is in Buckingham Palace, the Queen (played by herself) knighted James Bond (becoming Sir James Bond) and Gareth Mallory (becoming Sir Gareth Mallory) for achieving the war against the Martian race. Q congratulates Bond and M for the award. Madeleine has decided to return to her home country and said goodbye to James Bond and his friends. Bond asked M about another terrorist organisation has been formed called GRINDER (General Revenge in Non-Dimension Entertaining Rights). The camera pulls away from the Buckingham Palace and the caption reads "James Bond will return" and the credits played.

    EON Productions and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer will love it.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Here's a very good treatment for Bond 25; wonder is how does the movie's plot looks like that i've reprise rather than Jake24's idea:

    Set two years after the events of Spectre, the opening shot begins with a gunbarrel and we can see Daniel Craig in the shot. The pre-titles begins with the outer space shot and the camera is heading towards our home planet Earth. The narration, in the background, said: "No one would've believe in the new years of the 21st century, the human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of space. No one could have dreamed we being scrutinised as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets. And yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded with envious eyes; and slowly and surely, they drawn their plan against us"

    WALL OF TEXT

    The very good ending scene is in Buckingham Palace, the Queen (played by herself) knighted James Bond (becoming Sir James Bond) and Gareth Mallory (becoming Sir Gareth Mallory) for achieving the war against the Martian race. Q congratulates Bond and M for the award. Madeleine has decided to return to her home country and said goodbye to James Bond and his friends. Bond asked M about another terrorist organisation has been formed called GRINDER (General Revenge in Non-Dimension Entertaining Rights). The camera pulls away from the Buckingham Palace and the caption reads "James Bond will return" and the credits played.

    EON Productions and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer will love it.

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  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,116
    Here's a very good treatment for Bond 25; wonder is how does the movie's plot looks like that i've reprise rather than Jake24's idea:

    Set two years after the events of Spectre, the opening shot begins with a gunbarrel and we can see Daniel Craig in the shot. The pre-titles begins with the outer space shot and the camera is heading towards our home planet Earth. The narration, in the background, said: "No one would've believe in the new years of the 21st century, the human affairs were being watched from the timeless worlds of space. No one could have dreamed we being scrutinised as someone with a microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on other planets. And yet, across the gulf of space, minds immeasurably superior to ours regarded with envious eyes; and slowly and surely, they drawn their plan against us"

    The music begins with a remake version of a Medieval II Total War music Duke of Death based on the original 2006 version: As we see an exterior shot of Bond, in the DB5, being chased by the group of terrorist while Madeleine and the Armed Forces to rescue civilians from the group of terrorist. Bond shoots the enemy driver and explodes in the heart of Atlanta. He calls for backup to finish off the terrorist down. Blofeld becomes an ally of his original friend and rescuing Bond from the group of men. MI6 deserves victory, until the strange horn appeared. So what's is that strange horn; Could it be a Martian War or it's just a hoax?

    Another title sequence by Daniel Kleinman.

    An interior shot of an MI6 office in London shows a pile of newspapers reads "MI6 charged for involving in terror war". M have been upset about the MI6 charged with being involved in a terror war in Atlanta and reveals a strange horn from the other day. Bond asked M that he considered about a new war, but it's not World War III, as he claims the rumours of the existence of the Martian War. But M disagreed with Bond that it isn't real. Bond leaves the office and M discovered, in personal, that it was a real war that existed as he unveils it from the archives and saws the old footage of a war for the first time ever.

    On Mars, we can see the shot of the Martian general named Karken; a son of his father Julian; enters the War Council of Mars and speaks about the human race and suggesting another Martian War. the Martians agreed with the end of the human race and Karken reveals his new enemy of Commander James Bond 007. His father Julian enters the council and agreed with the Martians and his son that their will be another war but to kill Agent Bond as well.

    Back on Earth, an exterior shot of the House of Commons saw Bond talking to the MP named Harriet Jones about a future war that expected to be happen soon. Meanwhile on Hyde Park, Madeleine has a view of the city of London and meets the American agent Felix Leiter; a former CIA agent who was sacked by the Central Intelligence Agency and become involved with the FBI.

    In the interior shot of the MI6 office, M have in-talks with the United Taskforce (UNIT) to take on the alien race to be invaded on Earth for the night; He and the UNIT agreed to destroy the Martian race. In the army camp, we see the army preparing for war and blocked some of the roads off in order to build their own wall.

    Back on Mars, that night, we see the Martian army are ready for war and Julian taking his son Karken to a warships in order to invade the planet and destroy the human race. Thousands of Martian Warships takes off from Mars and heading towards Earth.

    In London, Bond was sitting on a chair in the rooftops of the MI6 office. But then, he saw a light in which means the war has begun. Bond rushes to the office and warns M that the start of the Martian War. M looks up at the window and sends his colleagues out of the office, Moneypenny tells M what's going on?

    Few of the Martian Warships flies towards Westminster and began to fire at the UNIT army. Blofeld and Felix join forces to take down the alien army but he has an idea: Blofeld will kill off some of the Martian army by a rocket launcher while Felix gundowned the Warships using the Tommy gun.

    The first of the Martian Warships landed in the parks of London and we see Karken (with his father Julian) along with his army gets out of a Warships. Karken saws Madeleine and Moneypenny runs towards the abandon building, but he with his army is getting after them. Meanwhile, Bond and M enters the BD5 and drives off into the London district of Soho but the Martians surround them. It was Karken's father Julian who sets a plan to block them off. Bond and M exits the car and Julian has a word with Bond. Bond kicks Julian and killed his soldiers. M quickly handcuffs Julian and has been executed. On Hyde Park, Madeleine and Moneypenny was trapped by Karken and his army. Just then, Blofeld and Felix told them to stay away but Karken disagreed. They decided to kill his soldiers first and knocks Karken out unconscious.

    Elsewhere, Bond and M, in the DB5, drives to rescue Madeleine and Moneypenny but although Blofeld and Felix have already rescued them. Bond quickly changed his mind that Blofeld calls him that he will be ready for Karken's execution. Bond and M arrived at the ruins of the MI6 headquarters where Blofeld, Felix, Q, Madeleine and Moneypenny have already there. Karken, with his handcuffs, gives Bond his last words. Bond executed him and the Martian have halted the war between the human race and their own race because their general died. They decided to kill the MI6 team instead and Bond and his team are ready for a final round. In slow motion, we see Bond and his friends battling the Martians alongside with the UNIT. Bond with his friends deserves victory and the city of London returns to normal.

    The very good ending scene is in Buckingham Palace, the Queen (played by herself) knighted James Bond (becoming Sir James Bond) and Gareth Mallory (becoming Sir Gareth Mallory) for achieving the war against the Martian race. Q congratulates Bond and M for the award. Madeleine has decided to return to her home country and said goodbye to James Bond and his friends. Bond asked M about another terrorist organisation has been formed called GRINDER (General Revenge in Non-Dimension Entertaining Rights). The camera pulls away from the Buckingham Palace and the caption reads "James Bond will return" and the credits played.

    EON Productions and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer will love it.

    >-) ...what the $#%^ are you smoking???

    At least share lol
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    >-) ...what the $#%^ are you smoking???

    At least share lol

    He's been posting the same treatment every once in a while on multiple Bond sites for at least a month or two. It's usually titled Apocalypse Now: The Great Martian War, although he appears to have left the title out of this particular treatment (couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, though).
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    dalton wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    >-) ...what the $#%^ are you smoking???

    At least share lol

    He's been posting the same treatment every once in a while on multiple Bond sites for at least a month or two. It's usually titled Apocalypse Now: The Great Martian War, although he appears to have left the title out of this particular treatment (couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, though).

    He also has a twitter account for the very same purpose.
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    Can't say I'm surprised.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Could I actually write a proper treatment for B25 and post it here. Is there a more suitable thread?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    dalton wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    >-) ...what the $#%^ are you smoking???

    At least share lol

    He's been posting the same treatment every once in a while on multiple Bond sites for at least a month or two. It's usually titled Apocalypse Now: The Great Martian War, although he appears to have left the title out of this particular treatment (couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing, though).

    Well, at least Jinx isn't in it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited May 2016 Posts: 8,383
    Creasy47 wrote: »

    Thanks @Creasy47, I'll have to get my writers cap on! ;)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Creasy47 wrote: »

    Keyword being "realistic"...

    Not directed at you @Mendes4lyfe
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,956
    Realistic or not, I have a better chance of riding a shark into space while winning the lottery than we would having any of these fan treatments used or even considered by EON.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Seriously, this thread has become the basis of a sitcom. :))
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Did anybody take a look at mine on the previous page? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    jake24 wrote: »
    Did anybody take a look at mine on the previous page? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

    Sorry not yet. You have to add sharks and aliens to get noticed.

    Thanks for posting. Will read.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Realistic or not, I have a better chance of riding a shark into space while winning the lottery than we would having any of these fan treatments used or even considered by EON.

    Hahahaha
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Do they still do that with sharks with "friggin" lasers attached to their heads?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Zombies is were it's at these days, now Zombies with lasers attached ? ........... :D
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    You mean Zod on steroids a.k.a. Doomsday?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Sadly I know nothing of youth culture. :(
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Superman isn't only for millennials, you know? ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    :)) They told me that at the last one.
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