What's your cup of tea?

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  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited May 22 Posts: 588
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ginger tea? I literally can't think of anything worse. I have been known to try Vanilla tea from time to time though.

    Well, to each his own, but I like ginger biscuits, ginger snaps, ginger ale and ginger beer, so why not?

    I've always thought ginger icecream might be pretty good too

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    Tahiti Trot (Tea for Two), Shostakovich:

    I might put it in the classical thread too.
    Doris Day singing it:


    Who said tea was stuffy?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Seve wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ginger tea? I literally can't think of anything worse. I have been known to try Vanilla tea from time to time though.

    Well, to each his own, but I like ginger biscuits, ginger snaps, ginger ale and ginger beer, so why not?

    I've always thought ginger icecream might be pretty good too

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    I find ginger to be quite..... dangerous at times

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Seve wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ginger tea? I literally can't think of anything worse. I have been known to try Vanilla tea from time to time though.

    Well, to each his own, but I like ginger biscuits, ginger snaps, ginger ale and ginger beer, so why not?

    I've always thought ginger icecream might be pretty good too

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    I find ginger to be quite..... dangerous at times

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    Now that kind of ginger I do like of course.
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    This thread is reminding me that I really to check my stocks. I've got Yorkshire tea, M&S everyday tea, but I doubt I have any lose leaf tea left. No rooibos for the evening. This is bad.

    Oh and anyone has a favourite tea mug or teacup? I do.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Ginger tea is the only tea I can tolerate. At least there's no toxic bitterness in it to attack my taste buds. I cannot drink black tea without twice as much sugar to cover up the very thing that I'm programmed to spit out like venom. I am simply not capable of taking in "bitter" above the level of Brussels sprouts. I don't drink coffee either. And the blackest chocolates feel like punishment -- give me the sweet, buttery white variety instead.

    This is my biology, quite different from my wife's and my parents', who eat chicory for fun. I can handle very salty, very spicy, umami, and so on, but bitter has been my enemy since the day I was born, causing many fights during my upbringing, and many uncomfortable situations later in life as well. When I discovered that bitter is, indeed, nature's signal that food is spoiled or poisonous, it all made sense to me.

    Tea, coffee, and even hot chocolate drinks have always put me off, which is why I am a soft drinks and water guy instead. Unless ginger tea is on the table. Then I can drink tea. 😉
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Ginger tea is the only tea I can tolerate. At least there's no toxic bitterness in it to attack my taste buds. I cannot drink black tea without twice as much sugar to cover up the very thing that I'm programmed to spit out like venom. I am simply not capable of taking in "bitter" above the level of Brussels sprouts.

    Lol, while on the other hand, Brussel Sprouts are at the very top of my absolutely won't eat list, alongside Cauliflower

    That was until I visited Germany once, and the mother of the person I was visiting served them up for dinner... Oh dear I thought, what a dilema, but offending my host's mother was not an option, so I had to resign myself and dig in

    Fortunately it was accompanied by a very piqent cheese sauce, which completely overwhelmed the taste of the dreaded Rosenkohl

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Seve wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Ginger tea is the only tea I can tolerate. At least there's no toxic bitterness in it to attack my taste buds. I cannot drink black tea without twice as much sugar to cover up the very thing that I'm programmed to spit out like venom. I am simply not capable of taking in "bitter" above the level of Brussels sprouts.

    Lol, while on the other hand, Brussel Sprouts are at the very top of my absolutely won't eat list, alongside Cauliflower

    That was until I visited Germany once, and the mother of the person I was visiting served them up for dinner... Oh dear I thought, what a dilema, but offending my host's mother was not an option, so I had to resign myself and dig in

    Fortunately it was accompanied by a very piqent cheese sauce, which completely overwhelmed the taste of the dreaded Rosenkohl

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    I understand the dilemma all too well, @Seve.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Seve wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Ginger tea is the only tea I can tolerate. At least there's no toxic bitterness in it to attack my taste buds. I cannot drink black tea without twice as much sugar to cover up the very thing that I'm programmed to spit out like venom. I am simply not capable of taking in "bitter" above the level of Brussels sprouts.

    Lol, while on the other hand, Brussel Sprouts are at the very top of my absolutely won't eat list, alongside Cauliflower

    That was until I visited Germany once, and the mother of the person I was visiting served them up for dinner... Oh dear I thought, what a dilema, but offending my host's mother was not an option, so I had to resign myself and dig in

    Fortunately it was accompanied by a very piqent cheese sauce, which completely overwhelmed the taste of the dreaded Rosenkohl

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    Tbh either I just don't taste it anymore in tea, or tea is not made properly, but to my mind tea isn't bitter at all. Make sure you either put boiling (so no 80 degrees c) water over the leaves or preferably cook them for 2-4 minutes and take them out, and I find there's no bitterness at all. It may occur when the tea cools too long or the water isn't hot enough when made, but that's just like cooking a pie at a too low temperature. It'll never get the taste it's supposed to get.
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    Nobody in our family likes Brussels sprouts much, but every Christmas my wife is adamant that we must have them in the menu, because it's British. I'm the one who ends up eating most of my son's share, on top of my own.

    I think I plugged New English Teas before, but they have the coolest tea tins: https://newenglishteas.com/collections/classic-tins

    My personal favourite: https://newenglishteas.com/products/flying-scotsman-tea-tin-with-40-english-breakfast-teabags
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Well, for what it's worth, I agree with George Orwell about this

    'One should pour tea into the cup first. This is one of the most controversial points of all; indeed in every family in Britain there are probably two schools of thought on the subject. […] I maintain that my own argument is unanswerable. This is that, by putting the tea in first and stirring as one pours, one can exactly regulate the amount of milk whereas one is liable to put in too much milk if one does it the other way round.'

    And with Anthony Burgess about this

    Playing the diplomat, Burgess refuses to take sides on the question of adding milk to the cup either before or after the tea. ‘I do not think it greatly matters,’ he says. The important thing is that there should only be a very small amount of milk, ‘to soften the impact of the tannin content.

    As for pot to the kettle or kettle to the pot, pre heating the bottom of empty pot, or the shape of the cup, that all seems to be a bit OTT, but I can't say I've ever tried out the various permutations to find out.

    Can anyone else share personal experience of these practises?

    It seems to me that across different cultures there are a wide range of possibly contradictory methods of correctly brewing up?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Add tea, sugar, then the water, leaving two centimetres to an inch of room for the milk. Adding water first ensures you get the most flavour from the boiled tea, where as if you put in the milk first, the milk will block the heat from the tea and will taste weaker. It will taste and look milkier. You're basically wasting tea putting the milk in first, unless of course you use powdered milk, which I've never put in tea, but will add to my coffee in winter to keep it staying hotter for longer.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Add tea, sugar, then the water, leaving two centimetres to an inch of room for the milk. Adding water first ensures you get the most flavour from the boiled tea, where as if you put in the milk first, the milk will block the heat from the tea and will taste weaker. It will taste and look milkier. You're basically wasting tea putting the milk in first, unless of course you use powdered milk, which I've never put in tea, but will add to my coffee in winter to keep it staying hotter for longer.

    I think your also wasting tea by putting suger in first (or ever)

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    I'm simpler: pour boiling water into tea, preferably loose leaf tea. Keep it for two or three minutes, depending of its brew and strength. Drink.

    On a side note, all these mentions of chemicals in teabags are really putting me off. So I might buy myself some loose leaf tea soon. As I'm starting a new job tomorrow and it's a ghastly early start, I'll need galons of tea on a daily basis.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Seve wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Add tea, sugar, then the water, leaving two centimetres to an inch of room for the milk. Adding water first ensures you get the most flavour from the boiled tea, where as if you put in the milk first, the milk will block the heat from the tea and will taste weaker. It will taste and look milkier. You're basically wasting tea putting the milk in first, unless of course you use powdered milk, which I've never put in tea, but will add to my coffee in winter to keep it staying hotter for longer.
    I think your also wasting tea by putting suger in first (or ever)
    Ooh I can't drink it without sugar at all, but have cut right down. Actually I'm pretty much off tea and coffee these days and prefer a hot chocolate.
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    When you have a cream tea, you really, truly, absolutely don't need sugar: you have enough with the cakes, scones and what have you.

    Not that I think you need sugar in tea to begin with.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I haven't taken sugar in my tea since I was a child but they do still suggest you give tea with sugar in it to someone who is in shock.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I haven't taken sugar in my tea since I was a child but they do still suggest you give tea with sugar in it to someone who is in shock.

    That would make sense. But not for the flavour.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I haven't taken sugar in my tea since I was a child but they do still suggest you give tea with sugar in it to someone who is in shock.

    That would make sense. But not for the flavour.

    Yes, one should add sugar to tea in emergencies only.
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    Anybody else drinks from Bird and Blend?
    I mostly have their pumpkin brew in autumn, which is really nice.

    Oh and what about Teapigs? They used to be in every posh café.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Ludovico wrote: »

    You drink it hot and strong, with no nonsense about tea-bags and lemon-slices. Into the warmed taypot you put two spoonfuls of tea (always Ceylon, not Chinese) for each person, and another two for the pot. You use boiling water, and you let the tea stand for five minutes. You drink it with milk and sugar.

    Of course, only from your 'own' colonies! That's why I prefer Java tea no doubt, it's my genetics....

    I think it's odd to discard the rest of the world in such a way. I wouldn't ever drink green tea with sugar or milk. I do drink a cup of tea with lemon and honey in the morning, something that i learned in Italy 30 years ago when I was there staying with a family through a school programme. In the evening, especially when it's cold, I can have some strong, smokey tea. During the day it's fruity tea or just plain Javanese.

    But I do like a cup of green tea now and then as well. In Marocco I had mint-tea often, and still sometimes drink that (allthough the mint doesn't do my stomach any favours).

    All in all, during the day, I drink tea in 3, maybe even 4 different ways.

    I prefer loose tea mainly because it holds more flavour.
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    I'm back at work with a new job, early start in the morning. I finished my pack of M&S Everyday Tea, so drinking Tetley. I have a whole bag of it. It's a serious drop of quality. Need to restock.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    I've seen posts about English tea customs here, also some mention of Japanese and Chinese

    Another interesting variation is Russian tea culture, which I know nothing about, other than that they have traditionaly preferred tea to coffee and use a samovar

    Tea is an important part of Russian culture. Due in part to Russia's cold northern climate, it is today considered the de facto national beverage. It is traditionally taken at afternoon tea, but has since spread as an all day drink, especially at the end of meals, served with dessert. A notable aspect of Russian tea culture is the samovar, which was widely used to boil water for brewing until the middle of the 20th century.

    Tea culture accelerated in 1638 when a Mongolian ruler donated four poods (65–70 kg) of tea to Tsar Michael.

    Traditional tea in Russia includes the type known as Russian Caravan, as it was originally imported from China via camel caravan. As the trip was very long, usually taking as long as sixteen to eighteen months, the tea acquired its distinctive smoky flavor from the caravan's campfires. Today, this tea is often given its smoky flavor after oxidation or is a keemun or a "black or oolong from southern China or Formosa (Taiwan) with a hint of smoky Lapsang Souchong or Tarry Souchong."[16]

    It is common, particularly in the countryside, to add herbs and berries to the leaves, such as mint, melissa, blackcurrant leaves, St. John's wort, raspberries, or sweet briar hips.

    A notable feature of Russian tea culture is the two-step brewing process. First, tea concentrate called zavarka is prepared: a quantity of dry tea sufficient for several persons is brewed in a small teapot. Then, each person pours some quantity of this concentrate into the cup and mixes it with hot and cold water; thus, one can make one's tea as strong and as hot as one wants, according to one's taste. Sugar, lemon, honey, jam or milk can then be added freely. Sugar and other sweeteners are served in bowls; using the personal teaspoon to add them to the tea rather than the one in the bowl is considered impolite.

    Zavarka can be brewed from the same leaves up to three times, but this is generally recognized to dilute and thus spoil the taste, unless it is green tea being brewed.

    A samovar was widely used to boil water for brewing until mid-20th century,


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    I used to drink Twinings Russian Caravan brew, a long, long time ago. Can't remember the smoky taste.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited June 7 Posts: 18,767
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm back at work with a new job, early start in the morning. I finished my pack of M&S Everyday Tea, so drinking Tetley. I have a whole bag of it. It's a serious drop of quality. Need to restock.

    Yes, Tetley is bad. It seems quite weak and watery and doesn't have a great taste. I'm not sure why it's so popular.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I'm back at work with a new job, early start in the morning. I finished my pack of M&S Everyday Tea, so drinking Tetley. I have a whole bag of it. It's a serious drop of quality. Need to restock.

    Yes, Tetley is bad. It seems quite weak and watery and doesn't have a great taste. I'm not sure why it's doing popular.

    It's cheap? I prefer it to PG Tips, but boy do I see now that I have tea preferences! It's way rough in the morning.

    Anyway, if anyone of you go to York, go to Bettys: https://www.bettys.co.uk/cafe-tea-rooms/our-locations/bettys-york?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=local&utm_medium=organic#menus

    And try their tea. Bettys Tea Room Blend is good, but Ceylon Blue Sapphire is absolutely out of this world.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    PG Tips was my favourite tea until they changed the flavour and the shape of the teabags from triangular to square. Now I'm like a man bereft when it comes to tea. I don't know why they just can't leave things alone. A case of if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    PG Tips was my favourite tea until they changed the flavour and the shape of the teabags from triangular to square. Now I'm like a man bereft when it comes to tea. I don't know why they just can't leave things alone. A case of if it ain't broke don't fix it.

    A company that was making the yummiest vegan roast did the same thing: changed ("improved") the recipes and change the company name. It destroyed our Sunday dinner (my wife is vegetarian). But I digress.

    I suggest two things: 1)try loose leaf tea, because overall the taste is better, even if it's more trouble and 2)try various and smaller companies.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited June 7 Posts: 588
    Ludovico wrote: »
    A company that was making the yummiest vegan roast did the same thing: changed ("improved") the recipes and change the company name. It destroyed our Sunday dinner (my wife is vegetarian).

    "Vegan" tea, what's that about?
    Isn't tea considered to be a plant already?


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