What's your cup of tea?

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  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Question for the room. The only tea I really enjoy -- albeit with loads of sweetener in it -- is anything with ginger. Ginger tea, with a little lemon and some black pepper, gets me kicking early in the morning. How is ginger tea regarded by you lot? Am I now one of you... or is ginger tea basically the Freeway Cola to your Coca Cola? ;-)
    In your brew the tea is nothing more than the carrier. Which is a pity. I personally don't like ginger much, but my wife loves it. Still, if you want a proper cup, I'd recommend going to a specialised shop, and literally snif around. Find a smell that you love, use a sachet or tea pot or any other contraption that can hold the loose tea and make sure you let the boiling water hit the leaves. Preferably let them cook a bit. You'll find the tea not to be bitter at all and full of taste. You can do the same with fresh ginger, and that's probably nicer than what you're making now.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Question for the room. The only tea I really enjoy -- albeit with loads of sweetener in it -- is anything with ginger. Ginger tea, with a little lemon and some black pepper, gets me kicking early in the morning. How is ginger tea regarded by you lot? Am I now one of you... or is ginger tea basically the Freeway Cola to your Coca Cola? ;-)

    I don't really drink ginger tea. If you like spiced tea there's some really nice (imo) pumpkin spice teas that probably have ginger in them.
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    Is this thread about rooibos too? I know it's not technically tea, but I love it.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Tea with Sugar.

    Teabag in.
    (Hot) Water in.
    Wait.
    Wait a bit later. Until the water is dark.
    Remove teabag without scrunching it.
    Sugar in. Stirred, not shaken.
    Milk (optional).

    Enjoy.
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    I never, ever add milk to tea. Or sugar.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited April 19 Posts: 18,767
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Is this thread about rooibos too? I know it's not technically tea, but I love it.

    Yes, rooibos is fine. I used to drink it a lot around 2012 or so. I've since gone off the taste of it. As far as I know it is still a tea, albeit one that is naturally without caffeine.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I never, ever add milk to tea. Or sugar.

    Tea without milk is an anathema to me. I personally don't know how anyone can drink tea without milk. I haven't taken sugar in my tea since I was a child though.
    Tea with Sugar.

    Teabag in.
    (Hot) Water in.
    Wait.
    Wait a bit later. Until the water is dark.
    Remove teabag without scrunching it.
    Sugar in. Stirred, not shaken.
    Milk (optional).

    Enjoy.

    Pretty much how I do it although I do scrunch the teabag on the spoon to get the full flavour out and into the cup or mug. I also don't add sugar and milk is mandatory as opposed to being optional. I think we Irish probably drink more tea than even the English do as I believe a recent survey discovered.
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    It's milk in tea which I find barbaric. If you eat something sweet you don't need any milk or sugar. The Chinese, the Japanese, they don't add milk to tea.

    Alex in A Clockwork Orange drinks milk. I rest my case.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited April 19 Posts: 18,767
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's milk in tea which I find barbaric. If you eat something sweet you don't need any milk or sugar. The Chinese, the Japanese, they don't add milk to tea.

    Alex in A Clockwork Orange drinks milk. I rest my case.

    Well, yes, it's what you're brought up with I suppose and what the particular culture is around about you. Wasn't that Milk Plus that Alex drank in A Clockwork Orange though and not straight up cow's milk? It was milk laced with drugs as I recall. Good for engaging in the old ultraviolence.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited April 20 Posts: 590
    I enjoyed PG Tips when I lived over in Blighty, but now I drink Dilmah

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  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I hate tea. I need buckets of sugar to swallow even one cup down. It's bitter and flat. If I want caffeine, I'll drink a Red Bull. ;-)

    Even James Bond agrees with me. Fleming's Bond drinks coffee, never tea.

    It's true...

    The internet says

    In Goldfinger, working the night shift in the office between assignments, Bond tells a girl from the canteen:“I don’t drink tea. I hate it. It’s mud. Moreover it’s one of the main reasons for the downfall of the British Empire.”

    In "Thunderball," Fleming writes, “Bond loathed and despised tea, that flat, soft, time-wasting opium of the masses, but on his empty stomach, and in his febrile state, the sugary brew acted almost as an intoxicant.”

    Bond is forced to drink it at a health clinic, but as his appearances in other books and movies have shown, he much prefers coffee to tea.


    Japan has a tea culture not unlike that of Britain, and Huffington Post notes that it's the only other place besides that health clinic where Bond drinks tea. 

    Fleming had a house named Goldeneye on the island of Jamaica, which may be why he has Bond drink Blue Mountain coffee which at one point accompanies Bond’s breakfast of scrambled eggs and bacon and assorted tropical fruits. In fact he goes as far as assuring us Blue Mountain is “the most delicious in the world”.

    Or perhaps it is more to do with Bond’s parentage. His Scottish roots are well known, but his mother was Swiss. Did James Bond inherit his mother’s dislike of tea?

    However, in all the pictures I've seen of Fleming, he is always imbibing something a little stronger...

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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    It's milk in tea which I find barbaric. If you eat something sweet you don't need any milk or sugar. The Chinese, the Japanese, they don't add milk to tea.

    Alex in A Clockwork Orange drinks milk. I rest my case.

    Well, yes, it's what you're brought up with I suppose and what the particular culture is around about you. Wasn't that Milk Plus that Alex drank in A Clockwork Orange though and not straight up cow's milk? It was milk laced with drugs as I recall. Good for engaging in the old ultraviolence.

    Yes, he drank moloko plus, but also plain milk in the morning, and added milk to tea. Milk was used as a leitmotiv to illustrate his youth, innocence, but also savagery.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited April 20 Posts: 18,767
    Seve wrote: »
    I enjoyed PG Tips when I lived over in Blighty, but now I drink Dilmah

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    My favourite regular tea was PG Tips too but they've changed the blend and it's not as nice now. It's a real shame as it tasted great as it was. It didn't need to be changed. They also changed the shape of the teabags from triangular ones to square ones. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
  • edited April 20 Posts: 15,757
    I must say I love PG Tips adverts, but never liked their tea.

    I'm back from Yorkshire, where ironically I barely drank Yorkshire tea. At Bettys, I had their own blend which was very nice. I regret not trying again their Blue Saphire tea, which was completely out there and one of the best teas I had in my lifetime.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I must say I love PG Tips adverts, but never liked their tea.

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,767
    Seve wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I must say I love PG Tips adverts, but never liked their tea.

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    PG Tips shouldn't have monkeyed around with the flavour of their tea. 🐒
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,784
    Seve wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I hate tea. I need buckets of sugar to swallow even one cup down. It's bitter and flat. If I want caffeine, I'll drink a Red Bull. ;-)

    Even James Bond agrees with me. Fleming's Bond drinks coffee, never tea.

    It's true...

    The internet says

    In Goldfinger, working the night shift in the office between assignments, Bond tells a girl from the canteen:“I don’t drink tea. I hate it. It’s mud. Moreover it’s one of the main reasons for the downfall of the British Empire.”

    In "Thunderball," Fleming writes, “Bond loathed and despised tea, that flat, soft, time-wasting opium of the masses, but on his empty stomach, and in his febrile state, the sugary brew acted almost as an intoxicant.”

    Bond is forced to drink it at a health clinic, but as his appearances in other books and movies have shown, he much prefers coffee to tea.


    Japan has a tea culture not unlike that of Britain, and Huffington Post notes that it's the only other place besides that health clinic where Bond drinks tea. 

    Fleming had a house named Goldeneye on the island of Jamaica, which may be why he has Bond drink Blue Mountain coffee which at one point accompanies Bond’s breakfast of scrambled eggs and bacon and assorted tropical fruits. In fact he goes as far as assuring us Blue Mountain is “the most delicious in the world”.

    Or perhaps it is more to do with Bond’s parentage. His Scottish roots are well known, but his mother was Swiss. Did James Bond inherit his mother’s dislike of tea?

    However, in all the pictures I've seen of Fleming, he is always imbibing something a little stronger...

    Fleming-pulled-right.jpg

    Considering the amount of cigarettes Bond smoked, I am not surprised he only drank coffee, it was probably the only thing he could still vaguely taste. That, and the fact that he used other drugs, alcohol, benzadrine.... Sounds like the perfect mixture to keep 'the empire' alive.

    The history of tea is quite interesting, and the different ways it is drunk as well. From very sweet and minty in Marocco, to full of cardamon, milk and sugar in India, to a clear green tea in Japan. I wouldn't say any way is heresy, just different. Personally I like mine made out of loose leaves (they give more taste), not too dark, and properly boiled so there's no bitterness to it. If you leave the leaves in cooling down water, it does get bitter.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited May 13 Posts: 590

    The history of tea is quite interesting, and the different ways it is drunk as well. From very sweet and minty in Marocco, to full of cardamon, milk and sugar in India, to a clear green tea in Japan. I wouldn't say any way is heresy, just different. Personally I like mine made out of loose leaves (they give more taste), not too dark, and properly boiled so there's no bitterness to it. If you leave the leaves in cooling down water, it does get bitter.

    When I visited Japan the girl I was staying with took me to a place that served this, but without having to participate in the ceremony

    Matcha is a finely ground powder of green tea specially processed from shade-grown tea leaves. Shade growing gives matcha its characteristic bright green color and strong umami flavor.

    Matcha originated in China, but the production of the raw material for matcha was banned in China in the 14th century

    The traditional Japanese tea ceremony, typically known as chanoyu (茶の湯) or sadō/chadō (茶道), centers on the preparation, serving and drinking of matcha as hot tea, and embodies a meditative and spiritual practice.

    The characteristics of matcha are as follows.

    Color: bright green, might be dark green depending on which leaves are used
    Flavor: strong umami flavor
    Aroma: unique ooikou (覆い香), like green laver.


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    When my brother got married to a Chinese woman (they're now divorced), we had a traditional tea ceremony, when the bride and groom serve tea to their elders. Pretty cool stuff. Loved it.
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    Anybody tried this brand? https://twospoons.co.uk/
    I'm thinking about ordering some.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited May 21 Posts: 18,767
    I do not recommend Yorkshire Tea Gold. I took the teabag out of the mug and there was a black liquid coming out of it. I've never seen tea with so black a colour before. Had another cup tonight and it looks like Fleming's disdainful "cup of mud". It didn't taste any better than it looked. I threw the rest of the box out. Maybe it's meant to be like that but, if so, it's not for me.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited May 21 Posts: 590
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I do not recommend Yorkshire Tea Gold. I took the teabag out of the mug and there was a black liquid coming out of it. I've never seen tea with so black a colour before. Had another cup tonight and it looks like Fleming's disdainful "cup of mud". It didn't taste any better than it looked. I threw the rest of the box out. Maybe it's meant to be like that but, if so, it's not for me.

    Yes I experienced that, a long time ago now, and I can't remember what the brand was

    It was like they had added a dye. I assumed it was because the the actual tea they were using did not produce a suitable colour

    The flavour wasn't much good either...
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I do not recommend Yorkshire Tea Gold. I took the teabag out of the mug and there was a black liquid coming out of it. I've never seen tea with so black a colour before. Had another cup tonight and it looks like Fleming's disdainful "cup of mud". It didn't taste any better than it looked. I threw the rest of the box out. Maybe it's meant to be like that but, if so, it's not for me.

    I got a similar experience about lapsang souchong. Hated it. Too smoky.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    That's a relief to hear that it wasn't just me then. I only buy ordinary grocery shop teas, nothing too fancy. So I wasn't sure if I was just overreacting. It just didn't look right to me so I didn't make any more of it. Of course it could be a bad batch of the tea or something but I'm not prepared to give it another chance.
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    I mostly buy teabags, but I find loose leaf tea to taste so much better on general, although it's really a pain to clean up.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    My late father always preferred loose leaf tea to tea bags. It was the tea he'd have grown up on. It was much more common back when I was growing up too. Now it's much harder to find and it takes up much less shelf space. My father always said "Why would you add a paper bag to tea?". Although he smoked for many years and he had no problem with paper wrapped around the tobacco there. I suppose the tea bag does affect the flavour somewhat though. I've heard that bleach or dye can come off the teabags and go in to the tea itself so they're perhaps not the best option.
  • edited May 22 Posts: 15,757
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    My late father always preferred loose leaf tea to tea bags. It was the tea he'd have grown up on. It was much more common back when I was growing up too. Now it's much harder to find and it takes up much less shelf space. My father always said "Why would you add a paper bag to tea?". Although he smoked for many years and he had no problem with paper wrapped around the tobacco there. I suppose the tea bag does affect the flavour somewhat though. I've heard that bleach or dye can come off the teabags and go in to the tea itself so they're perhaps not the best option.

    I think nowadays the smaller/specialised tea companies are the ones mostly selling loose leaf tea. I remember a time when Twinings was selling boxes of loose leaf tea, which i could easily find in Montreal. I used to buy one blend, try it, finish it, then try another then another... Some of these blends, like Russian Caravan, I can't find anywhere anymore. If it still exists.

    Edit: it still exists. https://twinings.co.uk/products/russian-caravan?variant=39600751378630&currency=GBP&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20847412027&gbraid=0AAAAADyaO0Ri_tMs601TTYysYzSR_SltF&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlrvBBhDnARIsAHEQgOT7rth4H8n2Rt4a863PJR08Z-ZOvx51GDWk74ZIBBVh3DSiroQLVfEaAiQwEALw_wcB
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    edited May 22 Posts: 8,784
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    My late father always preferred loose leaf tea to tea bags. It was the tea he'd have grown up on. It was much more common back when I was growing up too. Now it's much harder to find and it takes up much less shelf space. My father always said "Why would you add a paper bag to tea?". Although he smoked for many years and he had no problem with paper wrapped around the tobacco there. I suppose the tea bag does affect the flavour somewhat though. I've heard that bleach or dye can come off the teabags and go in to the tea itself so they're perhaps not the best option.

    Well, i can imagine smoking tabacco is kind of difficult without the paper around it. allthough a pipe could be used, but I don't know if that's the same tabacco.

    Anyway, as a non-smoker, i digress.

    Personally I prefer loose tea. The leaves are bigger, which somehow seems to affect the taste as well. I tend to make a pot of tea each morning (and afternoon, and evening), so the loose leaves aren't too much of a hassle. Just put them in an egg or clamp or other metal holding device, leave them for a couple of minutes and bob's your uncle. (if there are any dwarfs here, you can gforget the uncle part).
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited May 22 Posts: 590
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Question for the room. The only tea I really enjoy -- albeit with loads of sweetener in it -- is anything with ginger. Ginger tea, with a little lemon and some black pepper, gets me kicking early in the morning. How is ginger tea regarded by you lot? Am I now one of you... or is ginger tea basically the Freeway Cola to your Coca Cola? ;-)

    Reminds me of when I was staying with a friend in Switzerland (where they prefer coffee) and he asked if I'd like a cup of tea. When it arrived I took a sip and thought it tasted nothing like tea, so I had a look at the packet and found it was a brand of herbal "tea" that contained no actual tea leaves among it's ingredients. For my Swiss friends "tea" really just referred to any beverage made using the process that we most commonly associate with making tea i.e immersing plant matter in hot water in order to draw out the flavour.

    I like ginger so I would probably like a beverage based on it, whether or not there were any actual tea leaves involved. I would probably refer to it as "ginger tea" in the same way I refer to "ginger ale" or "ginger beer", which may or may not be prepared using the same process as beer for all I know

    But if I want to drink actual tea I think I would always prefer to have it for itself with no additional ingredients. I enjoy it with or without a dash of milk, but never with sugar since I was a kid.
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    Darnit, I forgot to mention that yesterday was International Tea Day: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Tea_Day
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ginger tea? I literally can't think of anything worse. I have been known to try Vanilla tea from time to time though.
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