Marvel Cinematic Universe (2008 - present)

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited September 28 Posts: 5,191
    I'm sure the film will be fun for a lot of people and I'm sure Reynolds and Jackman will do their best to make something enjoyable, I can't help but feel Marvel has now shifted to an era of "cutting corners". Nostalgia is the new money maker for them, and they'll continue to make those decisions. For years, Marvel was understandably successful for its new characters and storytelling, even if I'm not a huge fan and prefer other franchises, but now they've started relying on actors and characters of the past, I struggle to get excited going forward, which has and will continue to affect other franchises.

    For example, Andor, I've seen critics say that they won't be covering the show because from what they've seen, it gives them nothing to talk about i.e. references, throwbacks, easter eggs. What happened to getting excited about new stories about new characters that don't rely on nostalgia?

    Overall, the X-Men are some of my favourite comic book characters, so I really hope, Feige and Marvel doesn't try and cut corners by just bringing back the actors from the Fox movies.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns, I plan on picking it up on 4K as soon as I'm able.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Bright Side of the Road.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns, I plan on picking it up on 4K as soon as I'm able.

    Its worth it, there are shots in the film that make me confident Indy 5 is in good hands.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Bright Side of the Road.
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    She Hulk its fitting that Abomination is in this series.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited September 29 Posts: 28,642
    LOGAN sucked anyway, so it’s not like they’ll “taint” anything.

    @MakeshiftPython, no genuine offense intended, but if this is more your speed...
    she-hulk-twerk-she-hulk-megan-thee-stallion.gif

    ...then I'm not surprised Logan didn't do anything for you.
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    This all being said, the MCU has already strayed so far from any level of consistency in quality or writing that by this point there isn't much left to worry about it tainting. We're far past that, with shows now making light of Cap's sex life and making a joke out of every character that used to have any edge. The first ten years of films will be enjoyed and cherished for the long form story being told, and everything that came after Endgame mostly forgotten, as it should be.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, what in the hell is that first GIF from?

    And as for the second, what a sequence. I love that initial roar we hear emanate from the woods as the serum takes hold and he makes his approach (followed by the fearful "It's the Wolverine!" before he absolutely destroys those Reavers).
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @Creasy47, you have no idea how envious I am that you don't know what that GIF is from. It's from the new She-Hulk show on Disney+ where, I kid you not, the main character twerks in a sequence that unfortunately isn't all a dream or a figment of her or anyone else's imagination. This is the MCU now.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited September 30 Posts: 37,929
    @Creasy47, you have no idea how envious I am that you don't know what that GIF is from. It's from the new She-Hulk show on Disney+ where, I kid you not, the main character twerks in a sequence that unfortunately isn't all a dream or a figment of her or anyone else's imagination. This is the MCU now.

    Oh that's gold, I knew it looked off. Seems quite obvious now, didn't even realize she was green when I first looked at it.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @Creasy47, I don't blame you. The CGI is not the best, and there's other more...distracting things on display than what anyone's skin color is. X_X
  • mattjoesmattjoes Brosmas is coming
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    she-hulk-twerk-she-hulk-megan-thee-stallion.gif

    God, can someone delete that thing?! Eye surgery isn't cheap you know?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    she-hulk-twerk-she-hulk-megan-thee-stallion.gif

    God, can someone delete that thing?! Eye surgery isn't cheap you know?

    @mattjoes, quoting my post doesn't help to reduce its dispersion. ;)
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Bright Side of the Road.
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    Harrison Ford Reportedly Considered For Marvel's Thunderbolts Cast
    https://screenrant.com/marvels-thunderbolts-harrison-ford-role-general-ross/
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    she-hulk-twerk-she-hulk-megan-thee-stallion.gif

    God, can someone delete that thing?! Eye surgery isn't cheap you know?

    @mattjoes This isn't eye surgery, but it still is a temporal remedy (Hopefully).
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython Omaha, NE
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    I think SHE-HULK actually does humor a lot better than most of the Marvel films. It probably benefits from being based on a comic that is a comedy, so there was never a pretense of this show being something serious.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    No matter who is involved, twerking is repulsive,, and looks like a dog who had eaten too much cheese trying to relieve itself on a neighbor’s lawn.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython Omaha, NE
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    Tony Stark would have approved and thrown a couple hundred dollar bills while he was at it.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @MakeshiftPython, nobody expected heavy drama from a She-Hulk show, but as has been related by literally everyone in this thread but you, it is just a woeful eyesore of a moment in a show that's been full of them. I've rarely felt such a level of cringe in recent memory.

    It's the general direction the MCU has been going in, where there isn't drama or stakes anymore, and characters that used to have meat to them are just being treated like jokes. Don't even want to know how they're going to screw with Daredevil now, after he had such a compelling run in a good TV show. It's depressing how quickly things fell off in just a few years since Endgame. Who knew that film would also be the endgame for what was great about the MCU?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I think SHE-HULK actually does humor a lot better than most of the Marvel films. It probably benefits from being based on a comic that is a comedy, so there was never a pretense of this show being something serious.

    It still has the problem of still not being funny, save for a couple of moments with Roth and Wong.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython Omaha, NE
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    @MakeshiftPython, nobody expected heavy drama from a She-Hulk show, but as has been related by literally everyone in this thread but you, it is just a woeful eyesore of a moment in a show that's been full of them. I've rarely felt such a level of cringe in recent memory.

    It's the general direction the MCU has been going in, where there isn't drama or stakes anymore, and characters that used to have meat to them are just being treated like jokes. Don't even want to know how they're going to screw with Daredevil now, after he had such a compelling run in a good TV show. It's depressing how quickly things fell off in just a few years since Endgame. Who knew that film would also be the endgame for what was great about the MCU?

    It sounds to me you take the MCU more seriously than you should, and probably just need to lighten up.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Brosmas is coming
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    she-hulk-twerk-she-hulk-megan-thee-stallion.gif

    God, can someone delete that thing?! Eye surgery isn't cheap you know?

    @mattjoes, quoting my post doesn't help to reduce its dispersion. ;)
    I'll just try and forget my own embarrassing imcompetence.

    mattjoes wrote: »
    she-hulk-twerk-she-hulk-megan-thee-stallion.gif

    God, can someone delete that thing?! Eye surgery isn't cheap you know?

    @mattjoes This isn't eye surgery, but it still is a temporal remedy (Hopefully).
    Haha, that's funny! I loved seeing Connery Bond dancing in the background while wearing the Goldfinger towel suit.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @MakeshiftPython, nobody expected heavy drama from a She-Hulk show, but as has been related by literally everyone in this thread but you, it is just a woeful eyesore of a moment in a show that's been full of them. I've rarely felt such a level of cringe in recent memory.

    It's the general direction the MCU has been going in, where there isn't drama or stakes anymore, and characters that used to have meat to them are just being treated like jokes. Don't even want to know how they're going to screw with Daredevil now, after he had such a compelling run in a good TV show. It's depressing how quickly things fell off in just a few years since Endgame. Who knew that film would also be the endgame for what was great about the MCU?

    It sounds to me you take the MCU more seriously than you should, and probably just need to lighten up.

    @MakeshiftPython, not in the slightest. I have watched two MCU movies since Endgame, it is that inconsequential and meaningless to me at this point. It doesn't even cross my mind anymore, which is why this is the first time I've posted in this thread in who knows how long. It's just a little depressing at times to be reminded of how the stories that were being told then versus the ones being told now, and how steep the decline has been. It's like running into an old friend you really loved hanging out with a decade back but so much time has passed and they're just a mess of a person. Hard not to remember what they were, and are no longer.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython Omaha, NE
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    Calling the MCU inconsequential and meaningless is like saying water is wet. I never considered it to be anything more than disposable entertainment, but that’s just how I feel. I’ve enjoyed most of MCU, but at the same time I’ll probably never rewatch any of them again. I treat it like old serials from the 30s/40s where you saw them once in theater and then moved on with your life.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Bright Side of the Road.
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    My reading of MCU is they had integrity and good writing, and now they don't.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Calling the MCU inconsequential and meaningless is like saying water is wet. I never considered it to be anything more than disposable entertainment, but that’s just how I feel. I’ve enjoyed most of MCU, but at the same time I’ll probably never rewatch any of them again. I treat it like old serials from the 30s/40s where you saw them once in theater and then moved on with your life.

    I agree. I’m a fan of most of the characters, but there’s too much world building and no breathing room to enjoy the products themselves individually. Plus a lot of the actors are way too opinionated.
  • edited September 30 Posts: 273
    Logan was great IMO, I am all for a Deadpool and Wolverine team up.
    Yeah. Me too.
    Harrison Ford Reportedly Considered For Marvel's Thunderbolts Cast
    https://screenrant.com/marvels-thunderbolts-harrison-ford-role-general-ross/
    Wow! Great news.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns The Bright Side of the Road.
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    Librarian wrote: »
    Logan was great IMO, I am all for a Deadpool and Wolverine team up.
    Yeah. Me too.
    Harrison Ford Reportedly Considered For Marvel's Thunderbolts Cast
    https://screenrant.com/marvels-thunderbolts-harrison-ford-role-general-ross/
    Wow! Great news.

    Ford would make a great Thunderbolt Ross/Red Hulk, after the sad loss of William Hurt I can't think of a better actor.
  • edited September 30 Posts: 273
    Librarian wrote: »
    Logan was great IMO, I am all for a Deadpool and Wolverine team up.
    Yeah. Me too.
    Harrison Ford Reportedly Considered For Marvel's Thunderbolts Cast
    https://screenrant.com/marvels-thunderbolts-harrison-ford-role-general-ross/
    Wow! Great news.

    Ford would make a great Thunderbolt Ross/Red Hulk, after the sad loss of William Hurt I can't think of a better actor.

    100% (and more) agree!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Calling the MCU inconsequential and meaningless is like saying water is wet. I never considered it to be anything more than disposable entertainment, but that’s just how I feel. I’ve enjoyed most of MCU, but at the same time I’ll probably never rewatch any of them again. I treat it like old serials from the 30s/40s where you saw them once in theater and then moved on with your life.

    The MCU is those things now, but didn't used to be. I certainly see more to it than what it is now. These films are as close to Greek myths as our society/culture will get these days. These characters are the beacons we should look to for inspiration, in the best case. And through the stories that were told, specifically with Captain America (who was always my favorite), these stories can transcend their medium and become something more. Spider-Man 2 is the best example I can think of when I think of a superhero story that transcended its genre and its conventions to be something moving, powerful and stirring. It, like the old MCU, had more goals than to act more politically correct than it really was, and to be funny but not actually being funny at all.

    But as time goes on, there is more of a doubling down on nostalgia for its own sake in these kinds of movies, and not out of any great desire to tell a good story. And that's how we get films like NWH, that relies on the crutch of older, better films and the memories viewers have of them rather boldly (and interestingly) telling a story of its own. It's a shame people keep eating it up, which tells the studios to shove more of it out. But as we've seen with Star Wars, Disney is highly skilled at diluting a brand and oversaturating it to death.
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    Second trailer for Wakanda Forever :

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I could be wrong, but it looks more interesting than the first.
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