NTTD & Corona

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  • RedNineRedNine Poland
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    Tenet has been released in late Summer, NTTD is scheduled for November, the edge of winter when the virus is more infectious..........Is it responsible to encourage audiences into an indoor environment with strangers at that time?

    This is what we are going to learn, isn't it ? We did not have a chance to get a good data on what's the impact of cinemas on spreading of the virus and TENET is the first real test. Logically, cinema still seem to be a safer environment then a restaurant, shopping malls or public transport and probably as safe as a church.
  • But as I said: it's a risk assessment. For some people the risks outweigh the precautions, and I don't think any Bond fan should feel obliged to watch NTTD in cinemas in November if they don't feel comfortable, just 'because' you're a Bond fan. Nor should other fans call out people who do not want to see the film in these conditions, it doesn't make them 'lesser fans'.
    That's a very good point. I saw Tenet on Wednesday and I felt very safe myself (I pretty much forgot about this whole situation while watching the film which was lovely).

    I myself am feeling very comfortable with the idea of watching NTTD in the cinema in November and I absolutely will be watching it in the cinema on the first day come what may (I'm positive that it will be all be fine).

    Everyone who wants to save the film for later, stay safe and take care. Everyone who wants to go to the cinema to see it, enjoy! 😃
  • tonesmalones09tonesmalones09 Minneapolis
    edited August 2020 Posts: 28
    But as I said: it's a risk assessment. For some people the risks outweigh the precautions, and I don't think any Bond fan should feel obliged to watch NTTD in cinemas in November if they don't feel comfortable, just 'because' you're a Bond fan. Nor should other fans call out people who do not want to see the film in these conditions, it doesn't make them 'lesser fans'.
    That's a very good point. I saw Tenet on Wednesday and I felt very safe myself (I pretty much forgot about this whole situation while watching the film which was lovely).

    I myself am feeling very comfortable with the idea of watching NTTD in the cinema in November and I absolutely will be watching it in the cinema on the first day come what may (I'm positive that it will be all be fine).

    Everyone who wants to save the film for later, stay safe and take care. Everyone who wants to go to the cinema to see it, enjoy! 😃


    Not to be an ass but I feel like this line of thinking is what has so many of us taking the virus very seriously (at least here in the US) so frustrated. We all stay home and try to limit risky behavior and those that go out and "feel safe" are inevitably the ones that keep spreading the virus and continuing the problem. It's not really an individual choice issue, it's the collective failure (again speaking as a US citizen, I understand the situation in other countries is different) that has made this so depressing. I want to see NTTD in the cinemas as much as anyone, and the best way to make that possible is NOT participate in risky behavior until numbers are down. A catch-22, I know, but this is a mental hurdle the US population has failed to clear.

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    But as I said: it's a risk assessment. For some people the risks outweigh the precautions, and I don't think any Bond fan should feel obliged to watch NTTD in cinemas in November if they don't feel comfortable, just 'because' you're a Bond fan. Nor should other fans call out people who do not want to see the film in these conditions, it doesn't make them 'lesser fans'.
    That's a very good point. I saw Tenet on Wednesday and I felt very safe myself (I pretty much forgot about this whole situation while watching the film which was lovely).

    I myself am feeling very comfortable with the idea of watching NTTD in the cinema in November and I absolutely will be watching it in the cinema on the first day come what may (I'm positive that it will be all be fine).

    Everyone who wants to save the film for later, stay safe and take care. Everyone who wants to go to the cinema to see it, enjoy! 😃


    Not to be an ass but I feel like this line of thinking is what has so many of us taking the virus very seriously (at least here in the US) so frustrated. We all stay home and try to limit risky behavior and those that go out and "feel safe" are inevitably the ones that keep spreading the virus and continuing the problem. It's not really an individual choice issue, it's the collective failure (again speaking as a US citizen, I understand the situation in other countries is different) that has made this so depressing. I want to see NTTD in the cinemas as much as anyone, and the best way to make that possible is NOT participate in risky behavior until numbers are down. A catch-22, I know, but this is a mental hurdle the US population has failed to clear.

    Completely agree 1000%. I feel this way as I see my friends going to large, crowded parties while I'm at home because THEY feel like it's safe and they're assuming their own level of risk...it's not about you!! The U.S. is gonna be dealing with this for years I fear. People here are so selfish. Our idiot president and politicized, mixed messaging from our expert class has made matter far worse. MASSIVE protests not only allowed but encouraged. Not just protests but huge block parties with DJ's in D.C. and NYC, massive politicized funerals while we're told we can't have our own funerals for our loved ones. It's a mess.
  • Posts: 625
    There are different kind of risky things to do:
    - going to a party: risky
    - going to a restaurant: risky
    - public transport: risky
    - travelling a lot: risky

    Why? Because there are lots of people chatting, moving around etc.

    - cinema, theatre, classical concert house: less risky

    Why? Because less talking, less moving around, good AC, bringing in fresh air at a high rate.

    Here in Germany most of the new cases come from people coming back from a holiday abroad (almost 40% of the cases), big family celebrations, parties, restaurants, slaughterhouses and similar companies.
    But there has not been one case on the media where someone spread the virus during a movie screening. And remember: cinemas are open since May here.
    The media would have made a huge story out it, if several people got corona after being at the same movie screening.
    But everyday we read about outbreaks in restaurants, at parties, on holiday, at schools etc.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    He may be a psychopath, but he's a psychopath that puts 110% into his commitments. If it's a movie about pool hustlers, he'll dedicate a lot of time becoming a pro at the game and learn all the trick shots. If he's in a movie about stock car racing, he'll actually do the racing. That's dedication.

    Bit much to call him a psychopath.Eccentric is the word id choose.I dont care what religion he believes in,as that is his own business.Hes a great actor,dedicates himself fully to his roles and literally risks his life doing crazy stunts for our entertainment.

    It’s a cult, not a religion. Given the info of what he’s been up to with that cult... yeah, I think he’s a pretty crappy human being.

    That said, he’s a great movie star. That can’t be taken away from him. As awkward as it is to watch other stars like Kevin Spacey and John Wayne knowing their personal stuff, they still command the screen like few others can.

    It IS possible to appreciate their works and still think they’re terrible people.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Let's steer the conversation back towards NTTD and corona, please. Tom's religion has nothing to do with the current topic.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    Posts: 2,541
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    He may be a psychopath, but he's a psychopath that puts 110% into his commitments. If it's a movie about pool hustlers, he'll dedicate a lot of time becoming a pro at the game and learn all the trick shots. If he's in a movie about stock car racing, he'll actually do the racing. That's dedication.

    Bit much to call him a psychopath.Eccentric is the word id choose.I dont care what religion he believes in,as that is his own business.Hes a great actor,dedicates himself fully to his roles and literally risks his life doing crazy stunts for our entertainment.

    It’s a cult, not a religion. Given the info of what he’s been up to with that cult... yeah, I think he’s a pretty crappy human being.

    That said, he’s a great movie star. That can’t be taken away from him. As awkward as it is to watch other stars like Kevin Spacey and John Wayne knowing their personal stuff, they still command the screen like few others can.

    It IS possible to appreciate their works and still think they’re terrible people.

    Yup, as someone who have read about him and the cult he is associated with, you are right. He is very professional, nonetheless.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 2,342
    Tenet's Cumulative Worldwide Gross: $53,600,000 so far.
    Does anyone think on that figure NTTD will certainly be released in November or is it too early to say ?
  • Not to be an ass but I feel like this line of thinking is what has so many of us taking the virus very seriously (at least here in the US) so frustrated. We all stay home and try to limit risky behavior and those that go out and "feel safe" are inevitably the ones that keep spreading the virus and continuing the problem.
    Apart from going to the cinema once to see Tenet, all that I have done in terms of going outside since the lockdown started here in the UK in March is food shopping and going to my great aunt's funeral (most likely from natural causes, she did live at a care home but as far as my family know she didn't have the virus). I have been incredibly cautious about this situation, but not overly so that it's stopped me from getting on with things that I've had to do, thank you. I think one cinema visit (with plenty of precautions in place at the cinema) is justified.
  • There are different kind of risky things to do:
    - going to a party: risky
    - going to a restaurant: risky
    - public transport: risky
    - travelling a lot: risky

    Why? Because there are lots of people chatting, moving around etc.

    - cinema, theatre, classical concert house: less risky

    Why? Because less talking, less moving around, good AC, bringing in fresh air at a high rate.
    Thank you, I agree wholeheartedly with this.

    Going abroad for a holiday (airports in both directions, traveling in both directions and moving around in another country) monumentally risky. I don't have any sympathy for people on holiday abroad at the moment who are complaining about quarantine requirements once they arrive home when they consciously decided to travel abroad for a holiday during a pandemic.

    Cinema: Far, far less risky in comparison.
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    https://www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/france-restrictions-events-social-distancing_52295.html

    Given that right now there's nothing that really interest me (apart from The Producers, and I'm not sure it hasn't been postponed, I think I'll pass.
  • Posts: 5,774
    https://www.whatsonstage.com/london-theatre/news/france-restrictions-events-social-distancing_52295.html

    As nothing interest me right now (both The Lion King and The Producers have been postponed till next year), I'll pass, thanks.
  • tonesmalones09tonesmalones09 Minneapolis
    Posts: 28
    Not to be an ass but I feel like this line of thinking is what has so many of us taking the virus very seriously (at least here in the US) so frustrated. We all stay home and try to limit risky behavior and those that go out and "feel safe" are inevitably the ones that keep spreading the virus and continuing the problem.
    Apart from going to the cinema once to see Tenet, all that I have done in terms of going outside since the lockdown started here in the UK in March is food shopping and going to my great aunt's funeral (most likely from natural causes, she did live at a care home but as far as my family know she didn't have the virus). I have been incredibly cautious about this situation, but not overly so that it's stopped me from getting on with things that I've had to do, thank you. I think one cinema visit (with plenty of precautions in place at the cinema) is justified.

    I did not mean to imply that you were not being responsible in your everyday life and I am sorry to hear about your great aunt. My point wasn't about whether or not cinemas pose a higher risk than other activities like traveling or partying though, I get that it's a different level of risk. I was only trying to express frustration at the notion that it should be left up to individual comfort with returning to the cinema, especially in areas (like the US) that have not contained the virus at all.

    Of course if you live in a country where cases and positivity rate is well under control (like Germany) going to a cinema is probably fine, and won't lead to massive outbreak. I think last time I saw Germany's positivity rate is less than 1%. But in America that is not the case, and is unlikely to be the case in late November. And if massive amounts of people flood the cinemas this Friday to see Tenet here, especially in areas of the country that are out of control in terms of containing the virus, I feel like it very well could lead to spread (I'm not a doctor, but spending 3 hours in a contained space with dozens of strangers doesn't seem like a great idea in areas where positivity rates are north of 10%). And I get that the US is not where most people on this forum live, but the idea that "it's up to the individual's tolerance for risk" is a huge issue here.

    Again, I want to see NTTD in cinemas as much as anyone. And if America fucks up it shouldn't mean that more responsible countries should have to wait for us to catch up. But I think the Tenet thing (in America) is yet to prove that cinemas are safe here.
  • There are just three films that I want to see at the cinema. 'Tenet', No Time To Die and 'Dune'. I live in London and can walk to our nearest cinema, albeit 40 minutes each way. I may go to see Tenet next week but I'm very uncertain right now.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,548
    There are different kind of risky things to do:
    - going to a party: risky
    - going to a restaurant: risky
    - public transport: risky
    - travelling a lot: risky

    Why? Because there are lots of people chatting, moving around etc.

    - cinema, theatre, classical concert house: less risky

    Why? Because less talking, less moving around, good AC, bringing in fresh air at a high rate.
    Thank you, I agree wholeheartedly with this.

    Going abroad for a holiday (airports in both directions, traveling in both directions and moving around in another country) monumentally risky. I don't have any sympathy for people on holiday abroad at the moment who are complaining about quarantine requirements once they arrive home when they consciously decided to travel abroad for a holiday during a pandemic.

    Cinema: Far, far less risky in comparison.

    I agree, as well. Our numbers here in AZ are steadily decreasing, as restaurants are remaining open but are being far smarter about distancing and sanitizing, than they were in early June. I have even ventured out to eat and felt quite safe.
  • Posts: 632
    Tenet's Cumulative Worldwide Gross: $53,600,000 so far.
    Does anyone think on that figure NTTD will certainly be released in November or is it too early to say ?

    I don't know how they think that number is satisfactory for Craig's final outing. It will always have to have the asterisk that says "This was released during a pandemic, so this number is good, really it is". As others on social media have commented, while today's tweet revealing the new poster says November 2020, the actual poster just says November. Not exactly a message of confidence.
  • JET007 wrote: »
    As others on social media have commented, while today's tweet revealing the new poster says November 2020, the actual poster just says November. Not exactly a message of confidence.

    If you squint really closely, there's a fine print under the November that says "2022."
  • JET007 wrote: »
    Tenet's Cumulative Worldwide Gross: $53,600,000 so far.
    Does anyone think on that figure NTTD will certainly be released in November or is it too early to say ?

    I don't know how they think that number is satisfactory for Craig's final outing. It will always have to have the asterisk that says "This was released during a pandemic, so this number is good, really it is". As others on social media have commented, while today's tweet revealing the new poster says November 2020, the actual poster just says November. Not exactly a message of confidence.

    To be fair I've just turned my head to look at my Skyfall poster on my wall and it just says 'October' it doesn't say 'October 2012'.
  • Definitely a personal decision, which should be based on what’s happening near you. Me, in Los Angeles, I’m happy they’re releasing Tenet and NTTD; it’ll get to me that much faster in blu ray. Down the road, when it’s safe, I’ll see it on the big screen. LALD was my first Bond and at the theater. Then I saw the previous films on TV as a teen and loved them all, even on the small screen format. Eventually, I was able to see them all at the theater during the 40th Bond anniversary — looked even better.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    So is there any chance NTTD will get a "second release" at a time when more people will be able to go to cinemas? Who decides stuff like that?
  • So is there any chance NTTD will get a "second release" at a time when more people will be able to go to cinemas? Who decides stuff like that?

    Studio. And yes, there could be a good chance if they feel there’s more money to be made.

  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    So is there any chance NTTD will get a "second release" at a time when more people will be able to go to cinemas? Who decides stuff like that?

    Many film's have done that in the past, when we are over all this, they might re-release many film's including NTTD.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    Posts: 776
    My ignorant, uninformed, reckless fellow Americans (not all of them, but far too many) and our jackass president, Captain Bonespurs, are the things that have and will continue to let COVID have free reign on everything here. If it weren’t for them, I’d feel a lot safer seeing NTTD in November, assuming it still actually comes out then. :-L
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    So is there any chance NTTD will get a "second release" at a time when more people will be able to go to cinemas? Who decides stuff like that?

    Only if it’s good. CR and SF get rereleased all the time anyway with cool stuff like a live orchestra. It’s because people love them and they are critical darlings. If people are very mixed on NTTD they’re probably won’t be a rerelease. However if it’s mostly considered good, because of Corona I would expect when it’s gone there would be a rerelease.
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 824
    This pandemic is far from over.

    Production on “The Batman” continues to be on pause after Robert Pattinson tested positive for COVID-19 this week, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

    https://variety.com/2020/film/global/the-batman-resumes-filming-without-robert-pattinson-1234759647/
  • RedNineRedNine Poland
    Posts: 71
    Well, the virus was never going to just die down by itself, there is still a posibility that it will stay with us for years. The reality might be that we will simply have to learn to live with it- we already made some improvements in the way we treat sick people and how we stop the spreading. We still learn new things all the time (the latest report I've seen indicated for example that sick people arent actually spreading the virus). I don't know how other governments operate but experts in Poland mostly agree that there will be no more lockdowns cause our economy would collapse so the most that can happen is more restrictions, nothing will be closed. Other thing might be that if that's the case then we still won't see any government admiting it since after months of telling people to stay home and wait untill the virus is gone, it would be a political suicide
  • Posts: 372
    With a new trailer and posters it would seem that NTTD is a definite lock for November. I guess EON and MGM are just going to hope for the best and have abandoned any idea of a billion dollar Bond.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    How locked was it for April earlier this year? If at all? I'm skeptical but also very hopeful.
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