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  • doghousedoghouse
    edited January 2015 Posts: 260
    RC7 wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Suits a suit.

    I beg to differ.

    Concur.

    RC7 wrote: »
    doghouse wrote: »
    They weren't "slim fit". They were "didn't fit". It's not really a question of styling,the waist of the jacket was smaller than Craig's waist. There is massive creasing in them and the buttons are being pulled. There isn't anything stylish about ill fitting clothing. You look like you can't afford to have your stuff tailored.

    It's the current trend, and imo doesn't look good. I hate a lot of modern tailoring trends such as short jackets and ill-tailored trousers that taper to the ankle. Urgh. Bond should be classic with a couple of modern twists. I'm hoping Tom Ford gives him a little more breathing room this time.

    It's a trend in people buying RTW suits, you really aren't gonna see a tailor do that unless someone demands it, and even then most would probably value their reputation more and refuse the client.

    I don't really blame TF in this case though as the costumer actually makes that call. I'm hoping with all the negative feedback they ask for a little better fit this go round. With a more classic Bond mission in SPECTRE, I'm optimistic.


    On the bright side, Fiennes stuff from Everest has been fantastic.
  • chipstickschipsticks NOT on TheDanielCraigForum where they think know Daniel Craig personally and Léa and Monica are ugly
    edited January 2015 Posts: 560
    Germanlady wrote: »
    He arrived there with Monica in tow. The weather provides welcome new snow, but hoipefully sun will come out tomorrow.

    Bellucci made it to Austria too? Will Seydoux be there? :-/
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Is anyone here a world famous fashion designer? Tom Ford is.

    I'm not saying people here can't have an opinion about Bond's suits in Skyfall. I'm just saying that I will trust Tom Ford more than non-fashion designer Bond fans when it comes to the suits worn by 007.
  • doghousedoghouse
    Posts: 260
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Is anyone here a world famous fashion designer? Tom Ford is.

    I'm not saying people here can't have an opinion about Bond's suits in Skyfall. I'm just saying that I will trust Tom Ford more than non-fashion designer Bond fans when it comes to the suits worn by 007.

    The costumer, Jany Temime, specified the suits, not Tom Ford. So you can trust Tom Ford but it's irrelevant. Temime demonstrated to everyone with knowledge of menswear a lack of understanding, it's well documented and not a secret.

    Anyway, this conversation needs to go elsewhere, not in this thread.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Jany Temime is a professional costume designer and probably knows more about clothes than anyone in this forum ever will. Also, do you really think Tom Ford would agree to work on his third Bond film if his clothes were "specified" in a way he didn't agree with? It's safe to say he was satisfied with the way his suits looked in QOS and SF.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited January 2015 Posts: 14,842
    I thought the suit was ok. Maybe a bit tight, but nothing to cry about.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    I think the biggest problem was, that Bond was wearing suits during the wrong moments in Skyfall. The problem was not too tight suits.

    Just recall the action sequences. In the past films Bond was simply wearing total black jumpsuits during action sequences (TLD, AVTAK, TB, GE) or simply more casual attire. If one thinks a slim-fit suit looks perfect during action sequences, then one is very wrong here.

    Suits ARE not made for action sequences. Off course they suddenly look...too tight when he is fighting. On the other hand, I found Bond's suits very flattering during easy-going scenes in SF, like the briefing in M's office, the Macau casino scene, the introduction of Silva to M, and the final sequence when Mallory is the new M.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,842
    We don't know when the PTS of SF takes places, probably Bond did not have time to put on a casual suit, for all we know he might have gone off the plane and through customs minutes ago.
  • doghousedoghouse
    Posts: 260
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Jany Temime is a professional costume designer and probably knows more about clothes than anyone in this forum ever will.

    Not even close.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited January 2015 Posts: 4,619
    You didn't like the way Bond's suits looked in Skyfall. Fine, everybody can have an opinion. On the other hand saying that professional costume designer Jany Temime and world famous fashion designer Tom Ford know less about suits than you do is just pathetic.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    You didn't like the way Bond's suits looked in Skyfall. Fine, everybody can have an opinion. On the other hand saying that professional costume designer Jany Temime and world famous fashion designer Tom Ford know less about suits than you do is just pathetic.

    Indeed.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    It's a Bond film. Bond gets away with wearing suits in action sequences from day one because its part of the fantasy package the movies present. This is not Bourne or Die Hard. Bond is the British gentleman saving the world and kicking butt and looking impeccably suave while doing so. The more Bond is in a suit the better.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    It's a Bond film. Bond gets away with wearing suits in action sequences from day one because its part of the fantasy package the movies present. This is not Bourne or Die Hard. Bond is the British gentleman saving the world and kicking butt and looking impeccably suave while doing so. The more Bond is in a suit the better.
  • doghousedoghouse
    Posts: 260
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    You didn't like the way Bond's suits looked in Skyfall. Fine, everybody can have an opinion. On the other hand saying that professional costume designer Jany Temime and world famous fashion designer Tom Ford know less about suits than you do is just pathetic.


    Please cite where I said that I know more than Tom Ford about suits. Thanks.

    And once more, this isn't the proper place to discuss this.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited January 2015 Posts: 11,119
    doubleoego wrote: »
    It's a Bond film. Bond gets away with wearing suits in action sequences from day one because its part of the fantasy package the movies present. This is not Bourne or Die Hard. Bond is the British gentleman saving the world and kicking butt and looking impeccably suave while doing so. The more Bond is in a suit the better.

    Well, have you seen previous Bond films? During a lot of action sequences Bond was not wearing a suit. Take the foot chase from "Casino Royale" for instance.

    By the way....it's snowing incredibly hard in Altaussee right now. Reminds me of the snow storm in OHMSS. But won't this affect filming tomorrow? I thought they need sun for the romantic sequences in Altaussee.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    doghouse wrote: »
    Please cite where I said that I know more than Tom Ford about suits. Thanks.

    "The Skyfall suits were awful. They weren't "close fit", they were way too small and produced all kinds of unsightly pull creases. It's not anybody out of shape whinging about tradition or anything else. They simply didn't fit."

    You're welcome.
  • RC7RC7
    edited January 2015 Posts: 10,512
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    doghouse wrote: »
    Please cite where I said that I know more than Tom Ford about suits. Thanks.

    "The Skyfall suits were awful. They weren't "close fit", they were way too small and produced all kinds of unsightly pull creases. It's not anybody out of shape whinging about tradition or anything else. They simply didn't fit."

    You're welcome.

    He's giving his opinion on the cut of the suit. He doesn't state he knows more about tailoring than Tom Ford. Do you know more than Mendes about directing? or B+M about producing? No. Doesn't stop you critiquing the films.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    So? The opening chases of the subsequent movies to CR have Bond wearing a suit. Have YOU seen previous Bond films? He's done more action wearing a suit than he has wearing anything else.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    @RC7 Stating that the suits did not fit is more than just an opinion and it's simply an untrue statement. The suits did fit.
  • doghousedoghouse
    Posts: 260
    RC7 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    doghouse wrote: »
    Please cite where I said that I know more than Tom Ford about suits. Thanks.

    "The Skyfall suits were awful. They weren't "close fit", they were way too small and produced all kinds of unsightly pull creases. It's not anybody out of shape whinging about tradition or anything else. They simply didn't fit."

    You're welcome.

    He's giving his opinion on the cut of the suit. He doesn't state he knows more about tailoring than Tom Ford. Do you know more than Mendes about directing? or B+M about producing? No. Doesn't stop you critiquing the films.

    Correct. Along with the fact that Ford was just making what EON ordered.

    In his over-exuberance to make a point it seems Pancho neglected reading comprehension or just decided to use a strawman.

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    @RC7 Stating that the suits did not fit is more than just an opinion and it's simply an untrue statement. The suits did fit.

    In your opinion. I thought they looked ill-fitting at points. Depends on what cut you care for. Anyway, like others have said, this should probably be in another thread.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited January 2015 Posts: 10,588
    I think that the padding Craig wore under the suits in Skyfall during the action sequences had something to do with the illusion that the suits did not fit.
  • doghousedoghouse
    edited January 2015 Posts: 260
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyway, like others have said, this should probably be in another thread.

    Yep
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    By the way....it's snowing incredibly hard in Altaussee right now. Reminds me of the snow storm in OHMSS. But won't this affect filming tomorrow? I thought they need sun for the romantic sequences in Altaussee.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    doghouse wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyway, like others have said, this should probably be in another thread.
    I will create a thread for Bond's wardrobe in SPECTRE, so we'll have a place to discuss it.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    doghouse wrote: »
    Correct. Along with the fact that Ford was just making what EON ordered.

    For the second time: do you really think Tom Ford would keep working with EON if he didn't like the way his suits looked in these films? It's safe to say he believes his suits fit Daniel perfectly in QOS and SF.

    Also, you stating that "Ford was just making what EON ordered" proves again that you have no idea what you are talking about.
  • doghousedoghouse
    Posts: 260
    jake24 wrote: »
    doghouse wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyway, like others have said, this should probably be in another thread.
    I will create a thread for Bond's wardrobe in SPECTRE, so we'll have a place to discuss it.

    Excellent, thanks!
  • Lio007Lio007
    Posts: 220
    chipsticks wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    He arrived there with Monica in tow. The weather provides welcome new snow, but hoipefully sun will come out tomorrow.

    Bellucci made it to Austria too? Will Seydoux be there? :-/

    Monica Bellucci has confirmed that she will be on set in January. Didn't say in Austria but she might be over there.
  • ZekidkZekidk
    Posts: 3,169
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    By the way....it's snowing incredibly hard in Altaussee right now. Reminds me of the snow storm in OHMSS. But won't this affect filming tomorrow? I thought they need sun for the romantic sequences in Altaussee.
    "Romantic sequences"? What (source) makes you conclude that they are there to shot romantic scenes? With all the fuzz it could as well be a full blown action setpiece.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    Lio007 wrote: »
    chipsticks wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    He arrived there with Monica in tow. The weather provides welcome new snow, but hoipefully sun will come out tomorrow.

    Bellucci made it to Austria too? Will Seydoux be there? :-/

    Monica Bellucci has confirmed that she will be on set in January. Didn't say in Austria but she might be over there.
    Bellucci, along with Craig arrived in Austria.

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    Bellucci's the one with the sun glasses.
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