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i'am back......you called me 'JWESTBROOK'............you are a silly billy, arnt you?....haha
actually 'SF' made $5.1 million on opening day in China, so you can add that to your total.
........and dont forget....there's still some way to go for 'SF' to surpass 'TB'!
...facts only facts
;)
Germanlady I don't know what's going on here. We seem to have reached unprecedented levels of detente. Once again you speak absolute sense (for a change).
If SF took a massive haul it would be disastrous for the creative direction of Bond 24 as the studio would further want to tailor it to the Chinese market.
I would be surprised if Mission Impossible V doesn't try to capitalise on the success it had in China by setting the film there or featuring Chinese actors - and more crucially tailoring the story so as not to offend.
We have already seen what happened with Red Dawn which as far as I'm concerned is nothing more than censorship which Hollywood seems happy to do to chase the Chinese dollar.
I wouldn't mind if they filmed a Chinese and a rest of the world version but that would cost money. Much easier to censor at the writing stage and ensure you're making a China friendly film from the start.
It's a very worrying road we're starting down when China becomes a market to crucial to ignore, which by Bond 24 it will be.
A studio only gets around 25% of the Chinese BO gross returned to them, unlike closer to 50% from other markets.
I imagine in years to come, this may change, but it makes you realise a Hollywood film has to make a fair pile of money at the Chinese BO, to guarantee a worthwhile return!
Yes, that is correct, more closer to 40% as the average.
Studios do get a decent return though from their films in the US market though, the returns can be 50% +, particularly on the opening weekend, and that is why there is so much fervour about opening weekend BO in the US, as the studios know that is where they can get a big chunk of thier money back.
As the weeks roll on the studios get less of a percentage back from the cinema chains, coz obviously as the cinema takings take a dive, the cinema still has to make it worhwhile for them to show the film, even if only a few people turn up for each screening, and they wouldnt be doing that if they had to give back most of the takings to the studio!
I am sure, I will be able to break that string soon enough B-)
I think if we need to choose between an 'Espionage Thriller' or an 'Action Blockbuster', then 'Skyfall' certainly is an espionage thriller. In the good old tradition of other espionage thrillers from the franchise, like 'From Russia With Love' and 'Thunderball'. Devoid of huge overblown action set pieces, like various car chases and/or tanks destroying entire cities.
No, 'Skyfall' doesn't succeed in warming the hearts of fans of true action blockbusters. But it does fullfil my expectations as being a worthy, multi-layered espionage thriller. A movie that is, like 'Casino Royale', much more about character, various political themes, a good plot, combined with a worthy villain and a remarkable and truly original underground foot chase scene that results in a shocking climax.
'Skyfall' for me is nothing but perfection. Pity those Chinese can't see it....yet.
Agree heartily with most of what you say - just can't bring myself to agree that SF is perfection.
That's why we have opinions ;-). Well, maybe later I will tone down my feeling about 'Skyfall' a bit. But for now it feels like an almost perfect Bond film.
??? FRWL has one of the biggest explosion of the whole franchise if not the biggest, and TB has one of the largest and longest action set piece...
"Peur sur la Ville" is a French movie very, very popular here amongst the 40+ year old. Possibly THE French action movie of the 70s that edges on being meta (it's a symbolic link between old thrillers and new thrillers : the hero has to face first a gangster and then a serial killer). Here's a little excerpt of the underground foot chase scene, alas that's only the end of it, the part that is most similar is before that (but well, a chase inside a subway has to be "run/loose him/find him/run" I guess). It's not like looking at some Remy Julienne stunts in Bond movies that were copy/paste of stunts he did in French movie before, but I'm sure French viewers of that age could not not think about the very famous Belmondo scene here.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1abez_peur-sur-la-ville_news#.UP8knmccZgk
To be clear, I'm not saying Mendes copied Verneuil (who, in turn, probably copied DAF for one particular scene), but there's so many things that existed before.. I mean it's so famous here a French director here would not dare to do it again I think. When Besson had to do a chase in a subway, he put his hero on roller skates to do something totally different :)
The trailer with the ace Ennio Morricone theme FYI, that's really one of the few French movies I tell foreigners to watch if they want to see how fun French movies can be
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4ai11_peur-sur-la-ville-bande-annonce_shortfilms#.UP8ltGccZgk
Skyfall didn't open on 5,500 screens in China. It opened on 8,079! Making it the widest release ever.
You want the bad news?
This makes the $4.8-$5.1m opening day even worse.
You must be joking?
$5.1m/8079= $631 per screen! On opening night?
I hope the cinemas managed to sell a lot of popcorn to make up for this feeble return. Not quite Uma Thurmans Motherhood but not far off. Forget 50m - I'll take 20m at this stage.
got this from Commanderbond..
Skyfall is winding down at the US box office and movie theaters across the world, but in China it just opened on Monday adding another $5.1 million to its total gross. That’s three times what Quantum of Solace did and a good 14% increase over The Dark Knight Rises which also opened in China on a Monday. Factoring this in to Skyfall’s worldwide total, it currently sits at $1.046 billion.
This past weekend Skyfall passed the $300 million mark in the United States
You may read again now what I wrote here two days before the date about the bookings :)
1 screen with 6 showings per day = 1 screen with one showing only at midnight if you count only "screens", but it is obviously very different in the end isn't it ? And that's only the tip of the iceberg.
I can ask for a detailed state of SF release in China, unless of course the answer I've got contains once again the four letter word :)
It's almost like they are 30 years behind the west. A CGI 1980's Arnie, might do well out there.
Interesting article
http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/in-hollywood-movies-for-china-bureaucrats-want-a-say-317522
You have a point there.
@Germanlady I agree with you. I think they like non action films over there but when something is advertised as an action film (like SF or Batman), they expect alot. Although who could blame them with some of the stuff they've been treated to.
I think it has nothing to do with disrespect to be honest. Stating certain cultural/ethnical facts about a country and its political environment does not necessarily mean that we are belittling a group of people. If you think it's disrespectful or not, fact is political movies will have a very hard time in China. So if the people don't learn about these things, then it is quite logical they get focussed on elements of movies that will not get censored, for instance big bloated action sequences.
I said it before, 'Skyfall' is a very good film, and a very good 'espionage thriller'. Movies like 'Avengers' and 'Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol' are very good popcorn action blockbusters.
Just as an example, this summer I had a Chinese intern working for me in the lab and I was sometimes left speechless with what came out of her mouth. One time I was talking about some film I had watched in the theater that weekend. She looked at me and stated that she had also been to the cinema watching it, unfortunately. I thought she didn't like it but what she told me was something like this "We are so lucky in China, we don't have to pay to watch a film! We just have to wait and download it for free, nobody cares! But now I live here so I have to pay". This doesn't explain everything but it helps.