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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    Wow! 790 mil?! This is getting big, fellas. B24 is already in danger of not doing as well. ;-)

    Indeed. How high can the bar be raised until it can no longer be topped?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    $790 million. Absolutely insane.
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    B24 will struggle to match Skyfall any future bonds will. Skyfall had so many good factor going for it that B24 may not have as many such as the 4 year gap e.g pent up demand and the stunt at the opening ceremony.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Wow! 790 mil?! This is getting big, fellas. B24 is already in danger of not doing as well. ;-)

    Indeed. How high can the bar be raised until it can no longer be topped?

    Well I came out of Skyfall thinking, that was great but the best Bond ever is still yet to be made. Not that B.O. ever dictates quality.
  • Tobester95Tobester95
    Posts: 117
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.
    htall90 wrote:
    B24 will struggle to match Skyfall any future bonds will. Skyfall had so many good factor going for it that B24 may not have as many such as the 4 year gap e.g pent up demand and the stunt at the opening ceremony.
    It may not do as well, but I think it may be a CR-QOS type slight drop. I think Bond has gained a lot of new fans with Skyfall.
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    RC7 wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Wow! 790 mil?! This is getting big, fellas. B24 is already in danger of not doing as well. ;-)

    Indeed. How high can the bar be raised until it can no longer be topped?

    Well I came out of Skyfall thinking, that was great but the best Bond ever is still yet to be made. Not that B.O. ever dictates quality.

    Very true box office has little to do with quality look at the 13 movies that have made over a billion some are very bad movies e.g transformer 3, pirates 4 and the phantom menace are universally considered bad movies i also think alice wonderland is a bad movie.
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    Tobester95 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.
    htall90 wrote:
    B24 will struggle to match Skyfall any future bonds will. Skyfall had so many good factor going for it that B24 may not have as many such as the 4 year gap e.g pent up demand and the stunt at the opening ceremony.
    It may not do as well, but I think it may be a CR-QOS type slight drop. I think Bond has gained a lot of new fans with Skyfall.

    I agree but you never know i think skyfall did similar to what TDK and the Avengers did by getting people who are not interested in that type of movie to see it in droves as you don't make $790 mil and rising by appealing to just the films core audience for example my dad hates bonds but he went because he heard so much about it and i also force him to go lol.
  • Tobester95Tobester95
    Posts: 117
    htall90 wrote:
    Tobester95 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.
    htall90 wrote:
    B24 will struggle to match Skyfall any future bonds will. Skyfall had so many good factor going for it that B24 may not have as many such as the 4 year gap e.g pent up demand and the stunt at the opening ceremony.
    It may not do as well, but I think it may be a CR-QOS type slight drop. I think Bond has gained a lot of new fans with Skyfall.

    I agree but you never know i think skyfall did similar to what TDK and the Avengers did by getting people who are not interested in that type of movie to see it in droves as you don't make $790 mil and rising by appealing to just the films core audience for example my dad hates bonds but he went because he heard so much about it and i also force him to go lol.

    Always said a man who doesn't like Bond isn't a real man.

    (I'm only joking, please don't hurt me
    :( )
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    Tobester95 wrote:
    htall90 wrote:
    Tobester95 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.
    htall90 wrote:
    B24 will struggle to match Skyfall any future bonds will. Skyfall had so many good factor going for it that B24 may not have as many such as the 4 year gap e.g pent up demand and the stunt at the opening ceremony.
    It may not do as well, but I think it may be a CR-QOS type slight drop. I think Bond has gained a lot of new fans with Skyfall.

    I agree but you never know i think skyfall did similar to what TDK and the Avengers did by getting people who are not interested in that type of movie to see it in droves as you don't make $790 mil and rising by appealing to just the films core audience for example my dad hates bonds but he went because he heard so much about it and i also force him to go lol.

    Always said a man who doesn't like Bond isn't a real man.

    (I'm only joking, please don't hurt me
    :( )
    Lol yh he doesn't like many films thou such a harsh critic. He just watches Bladerunner on loop all the time i think such a sci fi geek like me.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,350
    Tobester95 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.

    It opened in Australia this weekend. It's totals are included in the $790 million, which was $61 million. It's be less next week. The only big markets left are in Japan and China.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    When are the Japan and China markets receiving the film? I'm wondering if it will manage to reach second or third place.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 13,350
    Japan: December 1, China, January or February next year.

    It can't not reach third place now.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited November 2012 Posts: 28,694
    Skyfall will be getting many a yen from our @4EverBonded in Japan I feel. ;)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Indeed. It's up to Bond 24 now. It has it in it to become number one now providing it's a good film. The only way can't be down.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Even if 'Bond 24' doesn't reach the heights that SF continues to see, it surely won't be seen as a failure of any sorts. With the ratings and popularity of SF, I'm sure there are many more people out there awaiting this next film with joy, especially many newcomers, such as the ones I heard talking about the film as they exited the theater.
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Indeed. It's up to Bond 24 now. It has it in it to become number one now providing it's a good film. The only way can't be down.

    Samuel i have read on box office forums that many believe that $1 billion plus is a good bet for Skyfall. As it may make $270 mil at least in the US and around $700 plus overseas so it may creep over the billion dollar mark. So number one all time is possible some are saying it could beat TDKR WW.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,447
    @htall90, wouldn't that be nice? It still has a long way to go to reach that number, but even hitting the number two spot - or getting close to $1 - would make me even more happy to be a James Bond fan.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 13,350
    Interesting. I suppose it does depend on the hold in the US and what the figures in Japan and China are like. It's in flux I'd say. Hoping for the best and second place is hardly bad news. Biggest Bond of all time though? That would be nuts.
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    Creasy47 I believe Skyfall will make a billion dollars if it holds up well next weekend after thanksgiving weekend. In the US tradionally films have fallen hard after thanksgiving. On box office forums apparently Skyfall has unachieved in Asia thus far in hong kong and singapore for example. Also i read that Chinese reviews have send it is overrated and not enough action lol. China loves at the moment big 3d movies like transformers 3 which made $145 mil there so hopefully it does not under achieve in China and Japan. It's legs may be cut long term by The hobbit as it is predicted to do unreal numbers overseas crushing all before it. I still think it will make at least $950 mil WW at least.
  • KanangaKananga
    Posts: 366
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Indeed. It's up to Bond 24 now. It has it in it to become number one now providing it's a good film. The only way can't be down.

    I'm sure Bond 24 will come close to Skyfall. By the time it's released ticket prices will be a few pence higher!
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited November 2012 Posts: 11,119
    Another update of the 'Please compare comparable franchises thoughtfully'-list. Finally, finally, reality kicks in among Bond fans. 'Skyfall' IS today's 'Thunderball', money-wise at least.

    Besides a huge succesful Thanksgiving weekend for 'Skyfall', also internationally Bond 23 keeps soaring. Internationally (US excluded), 'Skyfall' now has passed 'The Dark Knight' and 'Inception'. And also 'The Dark Knight Rises' is now in danger to be taken over by 'Skyfall'.

    Because of all this, 'Skyfall' moves up to 4th place in my list and is now seriously threatening 'Inception'. And please keep in mind, figures for Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Japan and China still need to come in. $900 million is a lock now. *UPDATED SUNDAY NOVEMBER 25TH 2012*:

    01) $1,076,999,996 -- 'Batman 8: The Dark Knight Rises' (2012) IMDB: 8.8
    domestic (US) gross: $446,861,181 - 41.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $630,800,000 - 58.5%

    02) $1,003,045,358 -- 'Batman 7: The Dark Knight' (2008) IMDB: 9.0
    domestic (US) gross: $534,858,444 - 53.2%
    foreign (rest) gross: $469,700,000 - 46.8%

    03) $825,532,764 -- 'Inception' (2010) IMDB: 8.8
    domestic (US) gross: $292,576,195 - 35.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $532,956,569 - 64.6%

    04) $790,120,000 -- 'JAMES BOND 23: SKYFALL' (2012, AFTER 31 DAYS IN CINEMAS) IMDB: 8.1
    DOMESTIC (US) GROSS: $221,720,000 - 28.1%
    FOREIGN (REST) GROSS: $568,400,000 - 71.9%

    05) $786,636,033 -- 'Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull' (2008) IMDB: 6.4
    domestic (US) gross: $317,101,119 - 40.3%
    foreign (rest) gross: $469,534,914 - 59.7%

    06) $694,713,380 -- 'Mission: Impossible 4 - Ghost Protocol' (2011) IMDB: 7.4
    domestic (US) gross: $209,397,903 - 30.1%
    foreign (rest) gross: $485,315,477 - 69.9%

    07) $624,386,746 -- 'Hancock' (2008) IMDB: 6.5
    domestic (US) gross: $227,946,274 - 36.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $396,440,472 - 63.5%

    08) $599,045,960 -- 'James Bond 21: Casino Royale' (2006) IMDB: 7.9
    domestic (US) gross: $167,445,960 - 28.0%
    foreign (rest) gross: $431,600,000 - 72.0%

    09) $586,090,727 -- 'James Bond 22: Quantum Of Solace' (2008) IMDB: 6.7
    domestic (US) gross: $168,368,427 - 28.7%
    foreign (rest) gross: $417,722,300 - 71.3%

    10) $546,388,105 -- 'Mission: Impossible 2' (2000) IMDB: 5.9
    domestic (US) gross: $215,409,889 - 39.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $330,978,216 - 60.6%

    11) $543,848,418 -- 'Sherlock Holmes 2: A Game Of Shadows' (2011) IMDB: 7.6
    domestic (US) gross: $186,848,418 - 34.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $357,000,000 - 65.6%
    12) $524,028,679 -- 'Sherlock Holmes 1' (2009) IMDB: 7.5
    domestic (US) gross: $209,028,679 - 39.9%
    foreign (rest) gross: $315,000,000 - 60.1%
    13) $478,207,520 -- 'Mr. And Mrs. Smith' (2005) IMDB: 6.4
    domestic (US) gross: $186,336,279 - 39.0%
    foreign (rest) gross: $291,871,241 - 61.0%
    14) $474,171,806 -- 'Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade' (1989) IMDB: 8.3
    domestic (US) gross: $197,171,806 - 41.6%
    foreign (rest) gross: $277,000,000 - 58.4%
    15) $457,696,359 -- 'Mission: Impossible' (1996) IMDB: 7.0
    domestic (US) gross: $180,981,856 - 39.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $276,714,503 - 60.5%
    16) $442,824,138 -- 'The Bourne Ultimatum' (2007) IMDB: 8.1
    domestic (US) gross: $227,471,070 - 51.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $215,353,068 - 48.6%
    17) $431,971,116 -- 'James Bond 20: Die Another Day' (2002) IMDB: 6.0
    domestic (US) gross: $160,942,139 - 37.3%
    foreign (rest) gross: $271,028,977 - 62.7%
    18) $411,348,924 -- 'Batman 1' (1989) IMDB: 7.6
    19) $397,850,012 -- 'Mission: Impossible 3' (2006) IMDB: 6.8
    20) $383,531,464 -- 'Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard' (2007) IMDB: 7.4
    21) $378,882,411 -- 'True Lies' (1994) IMDB: 7.2
    22) $372,710,015 -- 'Batman 6: Batman Begins' (2005) IMDB: 8.3
    23) $366,101,666 -- 'Die Hard 3: Die Hard With A Vengeance' (1995) IMDB: 7.3
    24) $361,832,400 -- 'James Bond 19: The World Is Not Enough' (1999) IMDB: 6.3
    25) $352,763,000 -- 'Taken 2' (2012) IMDB: 6.6
    26) $352,194,034 -- 'James Bond 17: GoldenEye' (1995) IMDB: 7.2
    27) $352,114,312 -- 'Catch Me If You Can' (2002) IMDB: 7.9
    28) $341,433,252 -- 'Wanted' (2008) IMDB: 6.7
    29) $333,011,068 -- 'James Bond 18: Tomorrow Never Dies' (1997) IMDB: 6.4
    30) $321,731,527 -- 'Lethal Weapon 3' (1992) IMDB: 6.6
    31) $300,428,192 -- 'The Expandables 2' (2012) IMDB: 7.1
    32) $293,503,354 -- 'Salt' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
    33) $288,500,217 -- 'The Bourne Supremacy' (2004) IMDB: 7.7
    34) $285,444,603 -- 'Lethal Weapon 4' (1998) IMDB: 6.5
    35) $278,346,189 -- 'The Tourist' (2010) IMDB: 5.9
    36) $277,448,382 -- 'xXx 1' (2002) IMDB: 5.7
    37) $274,503,870 -- 'The Bourne Legacy' (2012) IMDB: 6.9
    38) $274,470,394 -- 'The Expendables' (2010) IMDB: 6.5
    39) $264,105,545 -- 'Charlie's Angels 1' (2000) IMDB: 5.5
    40) $261,930,436 -- 'Knight And Day' (2010) IMDB: 6.3
    41) $255,000,211 -- 'Cliffhanger' (1993) IMDB: 6.3
    42) $259,175,788 -- 'Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle' (2003) IMDB: 4.7
    43) $240,031,094 -- 'Die Hard 2: Die Harder' (1990) IMDB: 7.1
    44) $227,853,986 -- 'Lethal Weapon 2' (1989) IMDB: 7.1
    45) $226,830,568 -- 'Taken' (2009) IMDB: 7.9
    46) $217,764,291 -- 'Collateral' (2004) IMDB: 7.6
    47) $215,887,717 -- 'Jack Ryan 3: Clear And Present Danger' (1994) IMDB: 6.8
    48) $214,034,224 -- 'The Bourne Identity' (2002) IMDB: 7.9
    49) $207,884,401 -- 'Safe House' (2012) IMDB 6.8
    50) $200,512,643 -- 'Jack Ryan 1: The Hunt For Red October' (1990) IMDB: 7.6
    51) $199,006,387 -- 'Red' (2010) IMDB: 7.0
    52) $193,921,372 -- 'Jack Ryan 4: The Sum Of All Fears' (2002) IMDB: 6.3
    53) $178,051,587 -- 'Jack Ryan 2: Patriot Games' (1992) IMDB: 6.9
    54) $177,238,796 -- 'The A-Team' (2010) IMDB: 6.8
    55) $176,070,171 -- 'The Italian Job' (2003) IMDB: 6.9
    56) $170,268,750 -- 'Starsky And Hutch' (2004) IMDB: 6.0
    57) $159,330,280 -- 'The Jackal' (1997) IMDB: 6.1
    58) $156,167,015 -- 'James Bond 16: Licence To Kill' (1989) IMDB: 6.5
    59) $143,049,560 -- 'Spy Game' (2001) IMDB: 6.9
    60) $140,767,956 -- 'Die Hard 1' (1988) IMDB: 8.3
    61) $134,004,000 -- 'Argo' (2012) IMDB: 8.3
    62) $130,786,397 -- 'Unknown' (2011) IMDB: 6.9
    63) $126,690,726 -- 'Law Abiding Citizen' (2009) IMDB: 7.3
    64) $124,305,181 -- 'The Thomas Crown Affair' (1999) IMDB: 6.7
    65) $120,207,127 -- 'Lethal Weapon 1' (1987) IMDB: 7.6
    66) $118,063,304 -- 'The Saint' (1997) IMDB: 6.0
    67) $115,097,286 -- 'Body Of Lies' (2008) IMDB: 7.1
    68) $099,965,792 -- 'Hitman' (2007) IMDB: 6.2
    69) $096,105,964 -- 'The Manchurian Candidate' (2004) IMDB: 6.6
    70) $094,882,549 -- 'Green Zone' (2010) IMDB: 6.9
    71) $085,416,905 -- 'Max Payne' (2008) IMDB: 5.7
    72) $080,630,608 -- 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy' (2011) IMDB: 7.1
    73) $071,022,693 -- 'xXx 2: State Of The Union' (2005) IMDB: 4.1
    74) $070,692,101 -- 'Ronin' (1998) IMDB: 7.2
    75) $067,876,281 -- 'The American' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
    76) $060,965,854 -- 'Colombiana' (2011) IMDB: 6.2
    77) $060,222,298 -- 'The Ghost Writer' (2010) IMDB: 7.3
    78) $060,161,391 -- 'The International' (2009) IMDB: 6.5
    79) $052,826,594 -- 'From Paris With Love' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
    80) $050,732,945 -- 'I Spy' (2002) IMDB: 5.3
    81) $033,372,606 -- 'Haywire' (2012) IMDB: 5.9
    82) $028,008,462 -- 'The Tailor Of Panama' (2001) IMDB: 6.1
    83) $027,664,173 -- 'Traitor' (2008) IMDB: 7.0
    84) $027,038,732 -- 'Rendition' (2007) IMDB: 6.8
    85) $024,188,922 -- 'Fair Game' (2010) IMDB: 6.8
    86) $016,933,380 -- 'The Heir Apparent: Largo Winch' (2011) IMDB: 6.4
    87) $013,439,000 -- 'Red Dawn' (2012) IMDB: 5.7
    88) $008,112,712 -- 'Spartan' (2004) IMDB: 6.7
    89) $000,933,549 -- 'Michel Vaillant' (2003) IMDB: 5.0
  • htall90htall90
    edited November 2012 Posts: 277
    Kananga wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Indeed. It's up to Bond 24 now. It has it in it to become number one now providing it's a good film. The only way can't be down.

    I'm sure Bond 24 will come close to Skyfall. By the time it's released ticket prices will be a few pence higher!

    Also Sony after seeing Skyfalls box office result will want to make even more money so may unfortunately push for it to be in 3d.

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    htall90 wrote:
    so may unfortunately push for it to be in 3d.

    I think/hope they are sensible enough to avoid this.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,447
    RC7 wrote:
    htall90 wrote:
    so may unfortunately push for it to be in 3d.

    I think/hope they are sensible enough to avoid this.

    My thoughts exactly. If anything - for me, at least - it would deter me from seeing it if I wasn't a genuine Bond fan. Films that obviously have 3D for a quick cash grab don't interest me.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    I'll try to improve the record of SF next week by watching it few more times
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Tobester95 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.

    It opened in Australia this weekend. It's totals are included in the $790 million, which was $61 million. It's be less next week. The only big markets left are in Japan and China.

    According to http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=bond23.htm, the figures of Australia are not there yet....
  • KanangaKananga
    Posts: 366
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Tobester95 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    No. I think that's asking for too much.

    You sure? It hasn't opened in a few other major territories (Australia etc.), it's been a month since its UK release and it's at number 2.

    It opened in Australia this weekend. It's totals are included in the $790 million, which was $61 million. It's be less next week. The only big markets left are in Japan and China.

    According to http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=bond23.htm, the figures of Australia are not there yet....

    New Zealand also

  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    It made $12 to $13 mil in Australia. Sense does not come into Studio execs heads when counting the money all they think is imagine how much would we make with 3d unfortunately. So many film directors have been forced recently to convert to 3d by studios bad times.
  • BondBugBondBug
    Posts: 158
    That $790m is in line with my expectations. Yes, It will beat Dark Knight Rises.
  • commandbond007commandbond007
    Posts: 660
    Such amazing numbers! but I cant believe Twilight already made 500 million in two week or less..........
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