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That's something I wish we saw in NSNA when the filmmakers had a chance to truly do something unique from what EON was doing at the time. Unfortunately, McClory was too busy chasing EON's formula because he was convinced he created it in the first place.
I do think, though, that a serious Bond film in 1983 had little chance of financial success and, therefore, being made that way. It might have been an artistic success, and greatly appreciated now, but not then...a bit like OHMSS.
They can do it that way the next time TB gets filmed...3rd time's the charm ! Unfortunately, though, it won't have Connery, Sean Connery.
I think just having Sean Connery in the part would have made audiences give the film a lot more goodwill than usual. It was an opportunity to do something different with EON rather than just try to compete with him. In the end, OCTOPUSSY was the one that came up on top.
Sadly not :(
I'd rather watch Stacey Sutton screaming "James!" on an infinite loop than sit through a third TB adaptation.
The problem with all of this is creating Bond into a character we feel sorry for, rather than we want to be, or admire. I don't go to watch a Bond movie and expect to feel sorry for him. I want to walk 10 feet taller out of the cinema wanting to be Bond.
With NTTD I felt nothing but pity for him throughout the movie. This is a far cry from the Connery panther swagger, Moore charm, Dalton badass cool, hell even Brozza's smarmy cheese and self assuredness. No matter what you throw at Bond, he always wins.
NTTD lost all that for me.
Yes they are. A brooding depressed Bond is actually more in line with the novels too, as Bond would often have bouts of melancholy, even in the early books.
Just seeing this pushed further to the front in NTTD, and then ultimately leading to his death is not something I particularly wanted to see in any Bond film, ever. The perfect Bond film for me is going out on a high, a feel-good factor when the end credits roll. This is something that most of the Bond films have, with the exception of OHMSS, QoS and NTTD.
OHMSS I make allowances for, as this was a one-off at the time, kept in line with the book, and it didn't show Bond dying.
OHMSS: “sure, his wife got murdered, BUT BLARE THE BOND THEME”
LTK: Sure, Leiter lost a leg and a wife, but WINKING FISH!!
CR: “The bitch is dead… *two minutes later* THE NAME IS BOND, JAMES BOND”
QOS: Bond finds solace in… GUN BARREL!!
SF: Sure, M died, but Bond is ready to work “WITH PLEASURE”
NTTD: Bond is dead, BUT LOOK AT HIS CUTE DAUGHTER BEING TOLD A STORY ABOUT BOND!!!
Only franchise that seems to thrive on bleak endings is THE PLANET OF THE APES series.
As the old trailers used to proudly state, Bond “ DOES IT EVERYWHERE!!! “
As far as older guys getting with young hot women,it happens all the time in real life.Dennis Quaid is in his sixties and his current wife is in her late twenties.
I wonder what first attracted her to the 68-year-old millionaire...?
(Ah, come on, half the UK still channels Mrs. Merton when they get the chance to roll that one out! ;) ).
Apparently she comes from a wealthy family so his millions weren’t that big a deal.Guess Quaid just has that irresistible charm.
Perhaps Over-Compensating. Brosnan’s Bond could be emotional and down to earth at time, but the filmmakers didn’t give enough time in those films to really explore those aspects. It’s why I view Brosnan’s era as a stepping stone to Craig’s; because the filmmakers learned their lessons from what went wrong with the Brosnan films. Having said that, Bond 26 should be akin to something like Goldeneye or The Living Daylights.
Oh absolutely, perhaps even slightly higher, but I feel like trying to imitate the tone and style of CR will just bring inevitable comparisons to that film, which will be tough seeing as how the new actor will already have inevitable comparisons to Craig.
Well,he lost a couple of women.Paris Carver for one.And he was forced to kill Electra after she betrayed him and threatened to commit an act of international terrorism.
He also didn’t get to bang Xenia Onatopp ( granted he might not have survived that encounter if he had! )
Yes, the attempts at emotional bits in the Brosnan films rarely felt to me like much more than lip service being paid, as if Pierce had asked to do a bit of sad-face acting and staring into the middle distance so they'd give him one scene where he could do it. Like the pretty random "It's what keeps me alive"/"It's what keeps you alone" beach scene.
I've always felt TWINE is sort of a prototype SF so I get what you mean. That said I always felt Brosnan was better at those emotional scenes when he was understated and not trying to 'act' if that makes sense (ie. the scene with Paris Carver in the hotel in TND). His acting in TWINE is a bit... well, soap opera-ish at times for me. Craig could handle those more overt emotions a lot better.
Completely agree about Bond 26 needing to be more along the lines of TLD or GE. There are still some interesting character moments with Bond in those films, but they're not as 'personal' as something like SF or NTTD.
RIP James Bond, you dislikable bastard.
I did actually want to make this a poll as I knew there would be mixed opinions, but unfortunately this forum doesn't support polls, as far as I could see.