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When I think of Roger's Bond he's forever getting knocked out by a gun tap on the back of the head, and the films even laugh with him at some of Bond's slightly pompous attitudes, but regardless you'd have to say they were pretty positive portrayals of that character.
Heh! I like what you wrote there.
I would agree that it is a positive portrayal. I'm not very sensitive about these things and I don't normally make such readings which is partly why I wondered if anyone else had picked up on it in the same way I did, from the side of those who are more critical of Bond and what he represents.
Fairly easy to miss because we see it through his eyes from his perspective, but when Q is scrubbing through Primo’s eye footage that they got from Blofeld, he does play a short clip that shows Ash recruiting him to work for Saffin after the party in Cuba. Made me smile. We’ve had dial a henchman in MR, now we’ve got a supervillain running a scheme to get out of work henchmen back in the game.
Really they needed two separate henchmen or for Primo to have been Safin’s undercover guy the whole time.
The "PC debate" was in the media, not in the film.
I don't understand what you are saying about Bond being "unsuccessful with women." That also does not appear to be in the film.
I think he means the scene in Cuba where Bond thinks Paloma wants to sleep with him,only for her to correct him and make it clear she’s not interested.
Yes, surely. The first couple of times I saw that scene, I viewed it in light of what Fukunaga had said about Connery and thought it'd been designed to contrast with that and show that CraigBond does take no for an answer. Then I noticed the wry look on Craig's face and got the gag! Other interpretations are available, obvs, but yeah, I go with him just teasing her/taking the mick.
No.Fukunaga would demand her to strip naked during an audition for a tv show ( allegedly).
Knowing the business just a little, if this story is a hundred percent accurate, the casting director and her agent screwed up the communication— not the director.
I assume she was replaced with an actress willing to do the nudity— since that is what the scene called for.
That's how I saw it too. NTTD has its faults, but Bond's relationship and flirting with Paloma was not one of them.
I felt far more comfortable watching a scene like that play out, an older guy and a much younger woman, with Craig being gently kicked back in his place, than some of the scenes in AVTAK, where Moore just looks wrong playing the seductive womaniser at his age.
Although of course Madeline needs to be Mr White's daughter, so she needs to be a touch younger.
Yes, those last few films of Moore are quite cringeworthy now during the lovemaking scenes. The same with Connery in NSNA and Kim Basinger. It just looks wrong.
And I'd honestly prefer to see a mature woman and Bond connecting on a vaguely believable level. I felt even Vesper was a bit too young.
My take on it is Bond was shagging a bunch of birds in Jamaica anyway. He's James Bond. You don't have to see it to know it. The man was up for it no matter what and he's literally some kind of living meme from Jurassic Park: "Life, uh, finds a way".
So Nomi plays him, so what? He was well up for it!
So he has a joke with Paloma? So what? He was still well up for it, it was just the wrong damn place and time. So what if she says no? Does that not happen in the novels too? I'm thinking Moonraker here but you get my point...
We women have agency. Yes, Bond is hot, but for others, not so much. That's LIFE. Get over your ridiculous egos and male fantasies lol.
And that's coming from a place where I don't even think this movie really did stray into that territory... So I guess, uh, the jokes on your fragility? :P.
Birds of the West Indies.
Haha, indeed, check and mate :).