No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    With that woman, quite the opposite ;)
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Can't wait to see Bond enjoying the good life in Jamaica. Do you think he'll be playing some baccarat or poker? When was the last time we saw Bond having fun in his time off? Anyone?

    DAD?

    Damn, that scared me ;) For all the wrong reasons.

    I mean, you could probably find moments in the Craig era where he's has his more relaxed moment, but not on the same way as Brosnan in the DAD Cuba sequence for example.

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    Relaxed, yes. You're absolutely right. But still on a mission, personal or not.
    I mean, when have we seen Bond on his own personal time, with no agenda?

    Also, and about that pic, my eyes wouldn't be set so high ;)

    Was Broz channelling Jack Wade in that scene? Presumably he was deep under cover as a sleazy Brit businessman abroad.
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    It should just be a requirement of the composer and title song artist that they work together. At the very least the composer should have it in their contract that they work the title theme into the score.
    They did that with both SF and SP. Inserted the title theme melody in the movie. But only once in each (SF - Macao, and SP - the Morocco train establishing shot). It was a creative decision, not because of any contracts, to my knowledge.

    Newman didn't even score the SF section that referenced the song himself - it was beneath him. He left it to an underling. It's a brief moment when the SF score rises above the banal. Shows what might have been.

    What I'm talking about is a theme from the title song fully interwoven in the score as a recurring motif, a la Barry in his prime.
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    The Casino Royale theme is interwoven when bond goes to Mathis villla on qos
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    Getafix wrote: »
    What I'm talking about is a theme from the title song fully interwoven in the score as a recurring motif, a la Barry in his prime.
    Yes, I would like that to make a comeback.

    It's especially lovely to hear the Moonraker theme throughout the movie. And Octopussy too.

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    It's one of the defining qualities of most of the best Bond scores. And yes Arnold knows this.
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    Thanks to everyone who replied. Yes, I'd forgotten about the leisure moments Bond spends with Vesper in CR. Must say, these are the moments I relish the most, as for me Bond is about escapism, but not only in the form of mission driven action. The hedonistic aspect is quite present in the novels and in some of the films. I'd love to see it back.

    The exotic has also made some sort of a comeback in the Craig era, despite people saying Craig as grounded Bond. What? Komodo dragons in a floating casino; a day of the dead parade; villains who weep blood and have a disfigured facial structure due to a bad cyanite pill;... These are the traits only the Bond films have. I hope they make full use of them in the 25th.

    So, exotism and hedonism, that's what I want from Bond25, in spades.
    Getafix wrote: »
    What I'm talking about is a theme from the title song fully interwoven in the score as a recurring motif, a la Barry in his prime.

    Yes, indeed. They always work out better this way, don't they? It's way more cinematic.
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    I wouldn't describe it as hedonism - more living in the moment and appreciating the finer things in life.
    Also yes there's a celebration of the exotic in the best Bond films. And a touch of the weird and surreal. I agree that the Craig era has subtly brought this back.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    The Casino Royale theme is interwoven when bond goes to Mathis villla on qos

    Also in the Inside Man track which plays after the Siena chase and before the Russia scene.

    Another Way To Die is also woven into the score many times, although it's very subtle and hard to notice unless one pays attention. The most prominent case is Pursue at Port Au Prince, but it's also in Greene and Camille or Time to Get Out, to name a couple.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    The Casino Royale theme is interwoven when bond goes to Mathis villla on qos

    Also in the Inside Man track which plays after the Siena chase and before the Russia scene.

    Another Way To Die is also woven into the score many times, although it's very subtle and hard to notice unless one pays attention. The most prominent case is Pursue at Port Au Prince, but it's also in Greene and Camille or Time to Get Out, to name a couple.

    Interesting. I'd not noticed the references to AWTD. Respect to Arnold for doing this. It's a weak title song but not as bad as some say.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    The Casino Royale theme is interwoven when bond goes to Mathis villla on qos

    Also in the Inside Man track which plays after the Siena chase and before the Russia scene.

    Another Way To Die is also woven into the score many times, although it's very subtle and hard to notice unless one pays attention. The most prominent case is Pursue at Port Au Prince, but it's also in Greene and Camille or Time to Get Out, to name a couple.

    Interesting. I'd not noticed the references to AWTD. Respect to Arnold for doing this. It's a weak title song but not as bad as some say.

    I've always liked it myself. The vocals and lyrics are a little rough but the instrumental is awesome. It fits the film perfectly IMO.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Can we please get back to Bond 25?
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    Yes, please.

    BTW, this always happens when someone starts talking about composers. Always.

    That being said, why is there a separate thread for the Bond25 filming. Get's a bit confusing, doesn't it?
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    Starting tomorrow hopefully things will be more consistent news-wise as production gets into full gear. I’m very excited to see pictures and get more tidbits about the film.
  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
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    Lashana Lynch just tweeted this. Seems to be the calm before the storm.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Univex wrote: »
    Yes, please.

    BTW, this always happens when someone starts talking about composers. Always.

    That being said, why is there a separate thread for the Bond25 filming. Get's a bit confusing, doesn't it?
    That thread is for those who specifically want to discuss filming and the story based on set photos, etc. However, that thread is allowed spoilers (minus major ones). This thread isn't.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    I like those musical moments obviously.

    It's been pointed out to me what I thought was a section of "Another Way to Die" on the way Mathis' villa is more likely the very similar melody from David Arnold's own "No Good About Goodbye". There's a Shirley Bassey version of it.

    I'll always hear "Another Way to Die" watching the film, though.

  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I'm not putting a link but it seems the Sun are running with the idea that Dan has taken control of the film, the launch was a flop, they don't have a clue what is going on and all the crew hate Craig.

    They are also comparing EON to MCU and the hype juggernaut of Endgame . Possibly some lazy hack has been listening to some of the verbal diarrhoea that certain members spout here when they feel like kicking the series because it doesn't deliver on their expectations.

    I don't know the idea mayeb to spur him onto produce a CR standard performance by bad mouthing him but the press really don't like Daniel Craig.

    I imagine he's going to smash it out the park and leave those talentless copy and pasters eating their words.

    They'll be eating out of his hand come release when the film is grabbing raves across the board.
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    I'm not putting a link but it seems the Sun are running with the idea that Dan has taken control of the film, the launch was a flop, they don't have a clue what is going on and all the crew hate Craig.

    It's The Sun after all…
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    According to Billy Magnussons Instagram story he is in Jamaica!! Felix and Billy's character will be there together to get Bond
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    Yeah I never listen to The Sun. There’s no concrete proof to believe Craig is hated and is “controlling” the film.
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    Even if Craig is "controlling the film" (as ridiculous as that sounds), we can only judge after seeing the final result! Might be a classic in the making for all we know.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    To be honest the Scum's influence is nowhere it was when so many idiots in my country were buying it and lapping up the garbage they printed, same goes for the Daily Mail and all those other toilet paper substitutes.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Bentley007 wrote: »
    According to Billy Magnussons Instagram story he is in Jamaica!! Felix and Billy's character will be there together to get Bond
    So Magnussen will play an assistant type character to Felix, then? I'd imagine he'd provide a fair amount of comic relief.
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    I'd have been happy to see David Harbour return as Gregg Beam.
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    Bentley007 wrote: »
    According to Billy Magnussons Instagram story he is in Jamaica!! Felix and Billy's character will be there together to get Bond

    Dencik is going there, too, "later this week for some action stuff."

    Seems Jamaica will feature more than just as a place of Bond's vacation. Maybe it will double for somewhere else, like Bahamas doubled for Madagascar in CR.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    So the scene with the (13 year old) woman being chased across the ice in Norway was scrapped due to the ice thawing? Thanks to The Sun for telling us! Everyone else is so secretive.
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    I'm interested to see what kind of character Magnussen will play. Harbour's Beam was a great CIA character, and I have no doubt Magnussen has the ability to be great too. Will he be a good guy or bad guy? So many details to learn!

    EDIT: Just read that Sun article for the heck of it. Total trash.
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