No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 5,767
    Ottofuse8 wrote: »
    If nolan and villeneuve are out, who are the remaining contenders other than demange?
    You can´t be serious.



    mattjoes wrote: »
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    Not that much of a difference...

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    bondbat007 wrote: »
    I think the days of thinking a quality American director not being able to do Bond justice is a thing of the past. Bond is loved worldwide but even an American like myself knows that a huge part of that love is Bond being British. If the director has the talent to do the character justice, I don't think it matters what his nationality is. Coogler would be a fine choice. Not every American director is named Michael Bay or Brett Ratner

    An American director will not be able to grasp the subtlety and nuance of English culture.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,894
    I would rather an non-Brit that knows what they are doing, over a Brit that is clueless when it comes to action/action thrillers. So long as the director understands that these are production line films, I couldn't care less about their nationality.
  • mattjoes wrote: »
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    That was brutal. I like it!
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Casino Royale, amateurish camera angles? I want whatever you are inhaling mate.

    Much of it is the embassy sequence...

    The shot of DC somersaulting and then looking forward. It's awful. The stuff of made-for TV action. And then Campbell somehow thinks a closeup of the siren inside the embassy is necessary. Plus, the closeup of Mollaka's face. Seriously? The entire embassy sequence is awful, with bad staging and bad lighting.

    Also...

    The shot of the Ford, traveling through Nassau. Eeeck. We have a Ford TV commercial, folks.

    The shot of Bond's face, trying to stop the fuel truck on the tarmac. Did Campbell instruct DC to look like he's straining, while sitting on the toilet? What director allows James Bond to look like that? Apparently, this one.

    This isn't a camera angle issue as much as a staging one: but having Bond stumble out of the casino and nearly get hit by a car, that then forces him to twirl around, is a cliched piece of cinema. Just substitute a poisoned Bond for a drunk. We've seen that scene hundreds of times.

    CR has a terrific story and terrific acting. Campbell just had to make sure he didn't screw it up, and in places he practically did. I may be knitpicking (I'm sure I am) because CR is a great film, nonetheless. But let's stop pretending that Campbell is god's gift to filmmaking. He isn't.

    I find it interesting that so many Bond fans are clamoring for a filmmaker (Campbell) and a composer (Arnold) who have done little outside of CR. There's a reason for that.

    Totally agree. Campbell is a journeyman hack of moderate talents. CR is his best Bond by far. I’d say John Glen was a better Bond director on the basis of weighted averages.

    Arnold is also not brilliant but having said that I preferred his CR and QOS efforts over Newman.
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    So when is this supposed announcement going to take place?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I don't think nationality matters either. It won't be Coogler though.
  • Somewhat curiously, last night Kroll tweeted a picture from Chris Nolan’s The Prestige and a shot of DC from CR. Clearly both photos are supposed to be hints of his “big news” today. Now, if we were gambling men, we could say that this is a subtle indication that Archivo007’s tip from last month was correct and Nolan is doing Bond 25.
    However, both the Prestige snap and the Craig gif could equally apply out of context. The Prestige photo is clearly indicating something special is coming and the Craig photo could just be Kroll thinking he’s smug and cool (mimicking Craig in the photo). He also posted a photo of a dapper Ryan Gosling…..
    Personally, I don’t think it’s a Bond announcement. Kroll is trolling the other big entertainment journalists over having the scoop. He even put a poll out asking who’ll be more annoyed by the news today, “fanboys” or the other journalists for loosing the scoop.
    As much as we love Bond, it’s not really something entertainment journalists are falling over themselves for stories. Furthermore, Bond fans aren’t known for being ravenous internet trolls (“fanboys”). Most are a little more discerning, older and (dare I say it) conservative.
    If you ask me, this scoop is Marvel/DC/Star Wars related. Still interesting from a film fan perspective, but not 007 related.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,496
    For what its worth Donald Mowat, Daniel's make-up artist just included a #jamesbond in his latest instagram post.

    https://instagram.com/p/BfYgmiIgAKq/?taken-by=mowatdonald
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Cleary it indicates that Christian Bale is tsking over the role and the Craig clip shows his disbelief. :D
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    For what its worth Donald Mowat, Daniel's make-up artist just included a #jamesbond in his latest instagram post.

    https://instagram.com/p/BfYgmiIgAKq/?taken-by=mowatdonald
    His makeup artist? Is this the chap who did the work for the BAFTAs? Just a suggestion, but he may want to start looking for new employment rather than tweeting.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    edited February 2018 Posts: 2,496
    bondjames wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    For what its worth Donald Mowat, Daniel's make-up artist just included a #jamesbond in his latest instagram post.

    https://instagram.com/p/BfYgmiIgAKq/?taken-by=mowatdonald
    His makeup artist? Is this the chap who did the work for the BAFTAs? Just a suggestion, but he may want to start looking for new employment rather than tweeting.

    He was there for 'Blade Runner 2049', but judging from this selfie, he too looks really puffy in the face, like DC.

    https://instagram.com/p/BfWUUNLgVsv/?taken-by=mowatdonald
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,983
    bondjames wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    For what its worth Donald Mowat, Daniel's make-up artist just included a #jamesbond in his latest instagram post.

    https://instagram.com/p/BfYgmiIgAKq/?taken-by=mowatdonald
    His makeup artist? Is this the chap who did the work for the BAFTAs? Just a suggestion, but he may want to start looking for new employment rather than tweeting.

    A funeral home could use a man with his skills.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Given that Craig's face has become a topic of discussion in the UK rags (with mention of tired 'wrist slash' in articles again), It may not be an appropriate time for any 'Bond related announcement', unless it's something more dramatic than we have expected to date.

    I suggest holding off for a few weeks at least. Let's hope they know what they're doing over there from a media relations standpoint this time.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5412361/BAFTAs-2018-Daniel-Craig-leaves-fans-baffled-face.html
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Cleary it indicates that Christian Bale is tsking over the role and the Craig clip shows his disbelief. :D

    Now now, don't tease me like this.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Cleary it indicates that Christian Bale is tsking over the role and the Craig clip shows his disbelief. :D

    Now now, don't tease me like this.

    Christian Bale as Bond villain, perhaps?
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    I love DC as Bond, and I literally didn't want to say that, but I think is time for a new Bond.

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    Looks like Doctor Smith from Lost In Space!

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    "Oh the pain, the pain!"





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    He is beginning to seriously age now,and we still have a way to go before B25.
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    Considering we know it's his last, there is no issue re building the age topic into the script (if done well), as with many things, you turn a potential negative into a plus, but the other route (eternal youth) is not a good one.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I’m as taken back by his appearance at the award show as anyone but there’s no need to panic. As has been pointed out, his makeup and hair people did him a horrible disservice. His hair alone drops his IQ several points. Lol.
    When he appeared on late night TV and announced his return as Bond he looked fine.
    As far as the “work” done, between now and production the Botox and fillers will fade, he will get in the gym and the Bond makeup people will have him ready.
    Let’s take a step back and relax.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2018 Posts: 23,883
    I'm a bit surprised that this is a shock to people. He's pretty much looked this way for over a year now. Even when he did that Aston ad with the dogs he looked tired around the eyes. Yes, they cleaned him up for Colbert, but that was an exception.

    At the end of the day he's never really been about looks (at least imho), so as long as he brings his 'A' game for B25 (and he'd better dig deep given all the time that's been wasted here) we should be fine.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Let’s not forget the times in 2017 Craig looked very good...

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Note ran and hair.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Amusingly, just one week ago we were almost certain that the photo standing next to the Aston was current. Does anybody really believe that today? Looking at it again, it does appear that some adjustments were made around the neck line (it's apparent in the shadow).
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    When is the announcement today?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,492
    Bernie99 wrote: »
    When is the announcement today?

    It's not even confirmed, so time will tell. Figured if there was one it would've dropped by now.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Bernie99 wrote: »
    When is the announcement today?

    It's not even confirmed, so time will tell. Figured if there was one it would've dropped by now.

    It'll probably break around noon-ish L.A. time which would be late in the evening here.
    I'm home from work now and eagerly waiting by my laptop...
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,884
    I thought that Kroll might be playing a game of some sorts and I found a cool sequence from his tweets.

    I’d agree with this take if the role was in more of the film
    This is also my pitch I have not heard any actors for this pic yet
    Some1 made this pitch a couple weeks ago [..]
    (retweet)
    Wait till Tuesday...
    Big news coming Tuesday...let you four sweat

    ITSWB.... It's Warner Bros. :D Just thought I'd post this, if, you know, I get it right.

  • edited February 2018 Posts: 12,837
    Getafix wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Casino Royale, amateurish camera angles? I want whatever you are inhaling mate.

    Much of it is the embassy sequence...

    The shot of DC somersaulting and then looking forward. It's awful. The stuff of made-for TV action. And then Campbell somehow thinks a closeup of the siren inside the embassy is necessary. Plus, the closeup of Mollaka's face. Seriously? The entire embassy sequence is awful, with bad staging and bad lighting.

    Also...

    The shot of the Ford, traveling through Nassau. Eeeck. We have a Ford TV commercial, folks.

    The shot of Bond's face, trying to stop the fuel truck on the tarmac. Did Campbell instruct DC to look like he's straining, while sitting on the toilet? What director allows James Bond to look like that? Apparently, this one.

    This isn't a camera angle issue as much as a staging one: but having Bond stumble out of the casino and nearly get hit by a car, that then forces him to twirl around, is a cliched piece of cinema. Just substitute a poisoned Bond for a drunk. We've seen that scene hundreds of times.

    CR has a terrific story and terrific acting. Campbell just had to make sure he didn't screw it up, and in places he practically did. I may be knitpicking (I'm sure I am) because CR is a great film, nonetheless. But let's stop pretending that Campbell is god's gift to filmmaking. He isn't.

    I find it interesting that so many Bond fans are clamoring for a filmmaker (Campbell) and a composer (Arnold) who have done little outside of CR. There's a reason for that.

    Totally agree. Campbell is a journeyman hack of moderate talents. CR is his best Bond by far. I’d say John Glen was a better Bond director on the basis of weighted averages.

    Arnold is also not brilliant but having said that I preferred his CR and QOS efforts over Newman.

    Barely any of the directors have done much outside of Bond. Campbell is probably one of the better ones in that respect, even if his other blockbusters haven't always done very well. He's made a critically acclaimed TV series before Bond and has done a couple of big movies since. I thought The Foreigner was very good as well. I think as far as non Bond careers go for the directors, he's one of the more successful ones.

    At the end of the day, he's 2 for 2 at making great Bond films. He successfully relaunched/rebooted the series twice and both of his films are always mentioned as two of the very best. That's good enough for me.

    Glen is my favourite Bond director but his films didn't have anywhere near the same impact Campbell's did. Once you could say was a fluke, maybe he got lucky, but twice? The man is talented and knows his way around a Bond film, end of (imo).

    Similar situation with Arnold I think. No he hasn't been extremely successful outside of Bond, but I don't care. I'd rather someone like him, who might not be the biggest name but clearly loves and understands the template Barry set, than another Newman.
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    I thought that Kroll might be playing a game of some sorts and I found a cool sequence from his tweets.

    I’d agree with this take if the role was in more of the film
    This is also my pitch I have not heard any actors for this pic yet
    Some1 made this pitch a couple weeks ago [..]
    (retweet)
    Wait till Tuesday...
    Big news coming Tuesday...let you four sweat

    ITSWB.... It's Warner Bros. :D Just thought I'd post this, if, you know, I get it right.

    If it is WB then chances are Nolan is directing.
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