Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • The trouble with casting young is that it's not easy to find many candidates who are good actors with solid film experience. One good young actor who I'm surprised doesn't warrant more of a mention around here is Billy Howle, 32 years old and 6ft. He's impressed me with his range although I've yet to see him tackle anything physical. That's about to change as he's playing a boxer in his next film. Maybe that will tell us more about his suitability.

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    Here he is being interrogated by Tanner Rory Kinnear.

  • QsCatQsCat London
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    The trouble with casting young is that it's not easy to find many candidates who are good actors with solid film experience. One good young actor who I'm surprised doesn't warrant more of a mention around here is Billy Howle, 32 years old and 6ft. He's impressed me with his range although I've yet to see him tackle anything physical. That's about to change as he's playing a boxer in his next film. Maybe that will tell us more about his suitability.

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    Here he is being interrogated by Tanner Rory Kinnear.


    Hmm I think the silence over the last few days says it all..
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    I was only silent, because I wish this was the Rory Kinnear we saw in the Bond series.
    I feel short changed.

    What is the name of the film this is from?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Mitchell
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    I knew those Bond auditions were intense but please!
  • Benny wrote: »
    I was only silent, because I wish this was the Rory Kinnear we saw in the Bond series.
    I feel short changed.

    What is the name of the film this is from?

    I only watched a little of it, but you have a good point. In the Bond films, Kinnear portrayed Tanner as surprisingly clueless. Some of that was down to the scripts, but it was part of his performance as well.
  • edited August 19 Posts: 71
    @Benny It's a short film called The Interview which I've posted in its entirety.

    No love for Billy Howle then. Oh well.

    While I believe the stronger candidates are over 32, I still think Howle has a shot if Eon go young. That's because firstly he's a very good actor, a chameleon who's made some very clever choices in quality productions. He's in a different league to some of the other young actors mentioned in this thread like say, the Gossip Girl guy.

    Secondly he's one of the few young actors who can look vaguely Bondian. It was his role in episode 1 of the BBC's MotherFatherSon that made me think that. (He's not very Bond-like in subsequent episodes due to reasons I won't spoil). Howle was just 29 at the time and holds his own alongside the likes of Richard Gere and Helen McCrory in a very challenging role. The episode is up on DailyMotion for anyone who can be bothered.

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  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    I think he has a good look about him but I suspect we'll be told he lacks a chin, has funny hair, doesn't look like a man and has a feminine voice soon enough.

    I feel like I've just drawn a summoning circle.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 19 Posts: 11,123
    Oh yes, I remember him in MotherFatherSon; I do remember at the time thinking that he's surely going places. Not a bad shout at all.

    But yes @00Heaven , we'll be told how weak his chin is soon enough and this thread will be off the rails yet again :)) I guess we just have to put up with it for some reason.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    He's one of the best suggestions we've had in a while, espicially in that last picture. His expression reminds me of Craig in QOS when he goes back to the interrogation room after Mr White escapes.
    Good shout mate
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    He's one of the best suggestions we've had in a while, espicially in that last picture. His expression reminds me of Craig in QOS when he goes back to the interrogation room after Mr White escapes.
    Good shout mate

    You know, I was trying to place that look he has on his face... Maybe you are right. But good shouts all around to be honest.
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    Benny wrote: »
    I was only silent, because I wish this was the Rory Kinnear we saw in the Bond series.
    I feel short changed.

    What is the name of the film this is from?

    Yes, it would have been nice if Kinnear had played his Tanner a bit more like that and a bit less like his character from the first episode of Black Mirror.

    Anyway, I only have The Interview to go from for Howle, but I can see him being a candidate to be invited for an audition, certainly.
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    The trouble with casting young is that it's not easy to find many candidates who are good actors with solid film experience. One good young actor who I'm surprised doesn't warrant more of a mention around here is Billy Howle, 32 years old and 6ft. He's impressed me with his range although I've yet to see him tackle anything physical. That's about to change as he's playing a boxer in his next film. Maybe that will tell us more about his suitability.

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    Here he is being interrogated by Tanner Rory Kinnear.


    He's got the look. Seems capable enough. Not sure about his voice.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    00Heaven wrote: »
    I think he has a good look about him but I suspect we'll be told he lacks a chin, has funny hair, doesn't look like a man and has a feminine voice soon enough.

    I feel like I've just drawn a summoning circle.

    Don't forget the teeth. In all the pictures posted here, he has his mouth closed. What is he hiding??!??!
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    He looks promising from the picture, but he doesn't seem suitable from the film, regardless of how good he might be in it.
    He has bad teeth too..
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    We have a Bingo!
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    He's also got some stubble in all these pictures too. Compensating for a lack of chin I suspect. I also see the beginning of a monobrow forming...

    I take back all I said before. This man is clearly unsuitable and must not even be considered.
  • I must admit to being a little disappointed when nobody replied at first to my Howle post, so thank you to everyone who's bothered.

    I wish I could find a decent clip of Howle acting in MotherFatherSon but this brief silent clip will have to do, especially as the eyebrow raise made me laugh as it was so Roger.


  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    He has a good face, but there is nothing Bondian about him, nor the slightest bit of dangerousness.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    But what about his chin?
  • edited August 19 Posts: 832
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited August 19 Posts: 1,154
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    It resembles my buttocks. Hair included. Good enough?
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    The next guy should at least look happy.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The next guy should at least look happy.

    Lol, yes, Howle has a good , but not great , look ; but in virtual every clip that I’ve seen, the ones here and others, he always looks worried. There’s not a hint of alpha male in him.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Good point: we must construct the perfect Bond :D
    007HallY wrote: »
    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.

    Interesting thought; I've only seen him in one thing that I know of and didn't get that impression, but I think I wouldn't mind it if it were the case.
  • edited August 19 Posts: 832
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Good point: we must construct the perfect Bond :D
    007HallY wrote: »
    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.

    Interesting thought; I've only seen him in one thing that I know of and didn't get that impression, but I think I wouldn't mind it if it were the case.

    I bet even if EON constructed the 'perfect' Bond using entirely CGI for the next film people on this forum would still complain that his chin or voice weren't strong enough, haha.

    Yeah, I really don't have enough to go on for this actor. Ah well, it's great to have some fresh faces. One never knows who it'll be until the time comes anyway.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond on an expedition
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    007HallY wrote: »

    I bet even if EON constructed the 'perfect' Bond using entirely CGI for the next film people on this forum would still complain that his chin or voice weren't strong enough, haha.

    Just wait until IO show their original CGI James Bond model, I'm sure we'll be able to find fault in it... that's if they ever get around to making it
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Good point: we must construct the perfect Bond :D
    007HallY wrote: »
    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.

    Interesting thought; I've only seen him in one thing that I know of and didn't get that impression, but I think I wouldn't mind it if it were the case.

    I bet even if EON constructed the 'perfect' Bond using entirely CGI for the next film people on this forum would still complain that his chin or voice weren't strong enough, haha.

    Yeah, I really don't have enough to go on for this actor. Ah well, it's great to have some fresh faces. One never knows who it'll be until the time comes anyway.

    It probably pales in comparison to the evaluations that EON is conducting. I find it humorous that some try to appear above assessing an actor, in part, based on their physical traits. Yes, many qualities must be taken into consideration but trust me physical appearance is one. Barbara Broccoli is going to have to look at an actor and think to herself,’ that’s Bond’
    Of course looks alone will not land him the job.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    talos7 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Good point: we must construct the perfect Bond :D
    007HallY wrote: »
    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.

    Interesting thought; I've only seen him in one thing that I know of and didn't get that impression, but I think I wouldn't mind it if it were the case.

    I bet even if EON constructed the 'perfect' Bond using entirely CGI for the next film people on this forum would still complain that his chin or voice weren't strong enough, haha.

    Yeah, I really don't have enough to go on for this actor. Ah well, it's great to have some fresh faces. One never knows who it'll be until the time comes anyway.

    It probably pales in comparison to the evaluations that EON is conducting. I find it humorous that some try to appear above assessing an actor, in part, based on their physical traits. Yes, many qualities must be taken into consideration but trust me physical appearance is one. Barbara Broccoli is going to have to look at an actor and think to herself,’ that’s Bond’
    Of course looks alone will not land him the job.

    It's not humorous though: as long as the guy is attractive and has some alpha male qualities, that's pretty much all you need. Do you think Howle would be rejected on his looks alone? I certainly don't, and I very much suspect he could easily act dangerous if he cared to.
    What is humorous is that some will reject any actor solely on the basis of looks, apart of course from one particular actor. That's what we've been joking about in fact and what was predicted as soon as the latest guy was suggested ;)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited August 19 Posts: 6,659
    mtm wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Good point: we must construct the perfect Bond :D
    007HallY wrote: »
    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.

    Interesting thought; I've only seen him in one thing that I know of and didn't get that impression, but I think I wouldn't mind it if it were the case.

    I bet even if EON constructed the 'perfect' Bond using entirely CGI for the next film people on this forum would still complain that his chin or voice weren't strong enough, haha.

    Yeah, I really don't have enough to go on for this actor. Ah well, it's great to have some fresh faces. One never knows who it'll be until the time comes anyway.

    It probably pales in comparison to the evaluations that EON is conducting. I find it humorous that some try to appear above assessing an actor, in part, based on their physical traits. Yes, many qualities must be taken into consideration but trust me physical appearance is one. Barbara Broccoli is going to have to look at an actor and think to herself,’ that’s Bond’
    Of course looks alone will not land him the job.

    It's not humorous though: as long as the guy is attractive and has some alpha male qualities, that's pretty much all you need. Do you think Howle would be rejected on his looks alone? I certainly don't, and I very much suspect he could easily act dangerous if he cared to.
    What is humorous is that some will reject any actor solely on the basis of looks, apart of course from one particular actor. That's what we've been joking about in fact and what was predicted as soon as the latest guy was suggested ;)

    Well I guess there’s a lot of humor to go around. As far as Howle, I did preface my post by saying that he has a good look . At this point my opinion is based on his acting and presentation.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    mtm wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    But what about his chin?

    I'm sure nowadays an appropriate chin can be added onto the actor's face in post-production using visual effects. No need to worry. Either that or the prop department can construct a prosthetic one in a similar vein to Connery's hairpiece.

    Good point: we must construct the perfect Bond :D
    007HallY wrote: »
    Anyway, at risk of derailing the thread, I'll reiterate there's something to Howle. He does strike me looking at more clips as more suited to a breezier, more lighthearted portrayal of Bond rather than necessarily one with that bit of darkness, but I'm not sure if I have enough to go on. Again, worth an audition.

    Interesting thought; I've only seen him in one thing that I know of and didn't get that impression, but I think I wouldn't mind it if it were the case.

    I bet even if EON constructed the 'perfect' Bond using entirely CGI for the next film people on this forum would still complain that his chin or voice weren't strong enough, haha.

    Yeah, I really don't have enough to go on for this actor. Ah well, it's great to have some fresh faces. One never knows who it'll be until the time comes anyway.

    It probably pales in comparison to the evaluations that EON is conducting. I find it humorous that some try to appear above assessing an actor, in part, based on their physical traits. Yes, many qualities must be taken into consideration but trust me physical appearance is one. Barbara Broccoli is going to have to look at an actor and think to herself,’ that’s Bond’
    Of course looks alone will not land him the job.

    It's not humorous though: as long as the guy is attractive and has some alpha male qualities, that's pretty much all you need. Do you think Howle would be rejected on his looks alone? I certainly don't, and I very much suspect he could easily act dangerous if he cared to.
    What is humorous is that some will reject any actor solely on the basis of looks, apart of course from one particular actor. That's what we've been joking about in fact and what was predicted as soon as the latest guy was suggested ;)
    Well that's all you feel you need, but obviously that doesn't go for everyone. Some people are very visually fixated and would like a certain amount of continuity, some people don't care so much. When I was 5 or 6, my hero, the Six Million Dollar Man, grew a moustache... I was so upset I may actually have cried. Honestly, I'm not a lot better now. Visually I can be pretty pedantic about characters. I would have like the Bond producers to have given Connery the facial scar, it would have been a good visual trademark for the character, imo.

    Plus, who people find attractive... it's kind of subjective. Same goes for "some alpha male qualities". You yourself were very down on Tom Hiddleston, using terms such as "soft jawed", "foppish" etc. Some people felt The Night Manager proved he could play Bond, others such as yourself felt the opposite. People are going to have different opinions, we're not all going to agree but we should all be able to give our views here without being mocked. I'm sure we've all fallen foul of not always giving other's candidates a certain amount of respect, but I feel we should at least try a bit harder. Again, just my opinion.
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