Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I can't make up my mind whether a delay between NTTD and the casting of Bond #7 will be a good or bad thing.

    It'll be good in one way, it'll allow the general audience time to see Bond after Craig and give the new man a clean slate

    Given the ending of NTTD though, you don't want Bond's demise lingering over the general audiences mind for too long as audiences are more fickle these days. The longer Bond is off screen the more the characters relevance will be questioned
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    mtm wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    If that's the case then I'd have to question his ability to convincingly portray different characters regardless of his intent, as his voice hasn't changed all that much in any of the many things I've seen him in. I've yet to see Bullet Train but the accent I've seen in clips is.....irritating.

    He was good in Kick Ass and Nocturnal Animals, and that's about as contrasty as it gets in terms of his range.

    I'd still give him a screen test though. Hell, I'd never deprive any actor of that in case we find a diamond in the rough. You never know.

    Taylor-Johnson was good in Nocturnal Animals yes indeed, but I was watching the Godzilla movie on a plane the other day and there's a point at which he becomes the lead character of the film, and he just isn't up to it. The film suddenly becomes lead-less - he's shockingly poor in terms of being a movie star.
    I realise that film is a few years old now, but I wouldn't be looking at him.

    Absolutely . The quality of “Godzilla “ plummeted once Cranston’s character was gone. The human aspect of the story should have been focused on him and Ken Watanabe. Taylor-Johnson did nothing to show that he could carry a film of this scale.
    I remember Cranston got top billing in that film, and then in the first act they show a closeup of them zipping up the bodybag he was in as if to show the audience they knew they had just played a joke on us.
    Aaron Taylor-Johnson sucks and would be an extremely disappointing choice for Bond.

    Yes, I'd never seen it before- I was watching it on a plane and had no idea Cranston died in it. I tried pressing on with on it after the lead switched to Taylor-Johnson but had to switch it off because he was so bad. I can't believe they killed him off: I'm sort of surprised that test audiences didn't tell them how bad a decision it was.
    peter wrote: »
    The only bet that I'd put on the next James Bond: he will be younger in his first film than Craig was in CR.... My guess is an actor who is presently in his late 20s/very early 30s.

    (Edit: typos: walking dogs with fat thumbs isn't a good combo)

    Yeah I think that's certainly who they'll be looking at, but I also think it doesn't necessarily mean that's who they'll go for. If they see someone a little older and think he's brilliant, they'll go for him.

    I couldn't agree more. Under 40 is a general guideline, but the actor most qualified will get the role.
    For CR I remember Eon initially announcing they were looking for someone between 28-32 for Bond's origin story. Instead they chose a then 37 year old Craig.
    The next Bond will be whoever is right for the next film, and can also carry on the series' legacy for a decade or so.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Did they announce that they were looking for someone that young? I know people were surprised got it, given his age and the fact it was meant to be an origin story
  • MI6HQMI6HQ SIS Building, London, United Kingdom
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    Has anyone watched Sandman?
    If it's good then I would also add Tom Sturridge as a contender
    talos7 wrote: »
    Speaking of dark horses, mine fits the bill.

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    It's a sign of the times.....
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Dark horse? More like light horse.
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    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.

    Good candidate, but the fangs might be a problem.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    At least he’s the lead actor in a feature film— unlike some other “candidates”, 😂…
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.

    I think Thomas Doherty would be good as James Bond. I've always thought so.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Not this muppet anyway

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.

    I know he's been mentioned before. He definitely has that Connery look, I'd have to see him in more but he's a good suggestion
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    He looks good, but he seems incredibly wooden in just those quick clips.
    I like the look of 'England' in that trailer :D
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Not this muppet anyway

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    Hey, I say dark horse for a reason, and I get the , justified, skepticism; but I see something in him that goes beyond his more flamboyant antics. If I’m right, his performance in the upcoming “ Don't Worry Darling” bill be an eye opener.

    Remember, the most beautiful diamond was once an unlikely lump of coal.
  • redherringredherring Netherlands
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    Dev Patel or Nicholas Hoult.

    Harry Styles as the next Bond title track artist!!!
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
    edited August 15 Posts: 1,151
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I can't make up my mind whether a delay between NTTD and the casting of Bond #7 will be a good or bad thing.

    It'll be good in one way, it'll allow the general audience time to see Bond after Craig and give the new man a clean slate

    Given the ending of NTTD though, you don't want Bond's demise lingering over the general audiences mind for too long as audiences are more fickle these days. The longer Bond is off screen the more the characters relevance will be questioned

    Obviously, the wish is the father of the thought (is that a saying in English?), but I think if they manage to put out a positive, young, adrenaline-packed next film the long time since Bond has been that could play in it's favour. They'll do their usual thing of going back to Fleming and going back to Connery and Gen Z will do their usual thing of rediscovering cool stuff from decades past and acting as if they were the first people to know about it (see Kate Bush via Stranger Things for example) and all will be well in Bond world.
    Now that I think of it, maybe the move this time would be to shout about going back to Moore. Not my personal favourite Bonds, but people obviously love them, 80s nostalgia has taken over from the 60s nostalgia of the 2010s (again, see Stranger Things and Top Gun) and if those films are one thing, they are fun.

    Edit: And to graft this observation onto the actual topic of the thread: I think Hoult would be the man to do the go back to Moore thing. He's a good dramatic actor, but he's also capable and willing to do silly stuff and sell it well.
  • MI6HQMI6HQ SIS Building, London, United Kingdom
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Now that I think of it, maybe the move this time would be to shout about going back to Moore. Not my personal favourite Bonds, but people obviously love them, 80s nostalgia has taken over from the 60s nostalgia of the 2010s (again, see Stranger Things and Top Gun) and if those films are one thing, they are fun.

    Edit: And to graft this observation onto the actual topic of the thread: I think Hoult would be the man to do the go back to Moore thing. He's a good dramatic actor, but he's also capable and willing to do silly stuff and sell it well.

    I saw many people considering Moore as the worst one.

    That's why Dalton's two films came into renaissance today, I'm keep seeing people that wants the next Bond to be like The Living Daylights, because it struck the balance.

    I don't think people would have likely to accept the campiness and cheesiness of the Moore Era again.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I always thought TLD was a weaker entry. I know it has fans, but it really does nothing for me.
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    MI6HQ wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Now that I think of it, maybe the move this time would be to shout about going back to Moore. Not my personal favourite Bonds, but people obviously love them, 80s nostalgia has taken over from the 60s nostalgia of the 2010s (again, see Stranger Things and Top Gun) and if those films are one thing, they are fun.

    Edit: And to graft this observation onto the actual topic of the thread: I think Hoult would be the man to do the go back to Moore thing. He's a good dramatic actor, but he's also capable and willing to do silly stuff and sell it well.

    I saw many people considering Moore as the worst one.

    That's why Dalton's two films came into renaissance today, I'm keep seeing people that wants the next Bond to be like The Living Daylights, because it struck the balance.

    I don't think people would have likely to accept the campiness and cheesiness of the Moore Era again.

    The problem with harkening back to the 80s Bond films in this tactic is that while there are some noteworthy films in there, it's not exactly the most tonally consistent or distinctive of Bond eras. Are they going to evoke the lightheartedness of Moore generally, or the more low key aspects of FYEO or OP. You also have LTK and TLD in there too which are quite different films.

    Basically, I don't think there's all that much nostalgia to mine from that time in Bond history. At least not for younger viewers. That's why many of the callbacks from the Craig era tend to come from the 60s Bond movies.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Although I guess it did move that way with Craig getting Tim's car.
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    True, but I'm not sure how much that was to do with 80s nostalgia than it was 'for the fans' in the sense they'd know which previous film that Aston Martin came from.

    Again, it's difficult using/referencing the 80s Bond movies to get younger viewers on board because Bond was not a youthful product in the 80s anyway. I like a lot of the Bond films from that time, but they didn't exactly capture the zeitgeist of the decade in the same way Kate Bush's music did, or the original Top Gun. Many of Moore's later Bond films look and feel a bit dated to casual movie goers. Same with LTK quite frankly.

    I'm sure something more lighthearted, fantastical and escapist in on the table for Bond 26, but I hope they don't try and evoke the campiness, aesthetics or plot elements from the later Moore era.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Oh and just to throw some oil on the "He has to be under 40 and over 5'10""-thing: I just found an answer to a Fredoom of Information request the MoD gave about the ages of Royal Navy officers in 2019 (i know how much you love this discussion about ranks, @mtm ;)) ). According to the answer, the average age of promotion to the rank Commander is 42 years and a Commander has on average spent 8 years and 8 months as a Lt. Commander before being promoted.

    Our man is of course everything but average, so he would have gotten it earlier and Fleming's Bond got a majority of his promotions while already working in Navy Intelligence (i.e. he never actually commanded a whole lot). So as a kind of hybrid of the ideas of "Bond in the Navy" we've had floating about here and the backstory given to Bond in Carte Blanche, he's loaned out to MI6 from Defence Intelligence for some reason or other and at the end of the film he gets a final promotion to Commander, but also leaves the Navy to join MI6 and become 007, full time so that he is from then on Commander James Bond, 007.

    It's probably a bit too much origin and rehashing CR and too technical for anyone but me to care, but I still kind of like it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Actually I do think that's quite interesting- thanks! :)
    So it does certainly seem that an early 30s Bond who's a commander would be a surprisingly high rank, but as you say, special intelligence-related reasons could probably be given somehow.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »


    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.

    I know he's been mentioned before. He definitely has that Connery look, I'd have to see him in more but he's a good suggestion

    Ooooo ! vampire with a foot fetish ? About *^& time ! At any rate, to get back on point: this actor might be cursed off of portraying Bond BECAUSE he looks too much like Connery ! Looks like his spooky character would have had a better time at the ghoulish wedding had he tried the Monster Mash, or even the Transylvania Twist, for a wedding dance...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    As has been said, we are “ reinventing Bond” ; who knows, we may get a younger Bond. who is recruited from the Mi-6 secretarial pool. 😉
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I do think the commander aspect of the character has diminished over time, espicially in the Craig era. I think they only mentioned him as commander Bond was to give him a rank over Nomi and to give him more authority to order M to launch the missile strike.
    Other than that him being a commander of the Navy never came into it really

    Perhaps in the next era of the character he won't be a Commander? If they're aiming young perhaps it won't be as believable as @ImpertinentGoon research suggests
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    The book Bond, like many real world military folks, achieved elevation(s) in rank more quickly than otherwise, because it happened during WWII.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    GadgetMan wrote: »


    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.

    I think Thomas Doherty would be good as James Bond. I've always thought so.

    I had never heard of him before. But...yeah. I can see it. (At first, watching the trailer, I thought it was the other actor...and I was thinking this had to be a joke.)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    TripAces wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »


    Here's the trailer for The Invitation. And Thomas Doherty looks, well, like young James Bond... He first appears at 43 seconds into the trailer.

    I think Thomas Doherty would be good as James Bond. I've always thought so.

    I had never heard of him before. But...yeah. I can see it. (At first, watching the trailer, I thought it was the other actor...and I was thinking this had to be a joke.)

    Same here , cause you never know here what people think Bond is.
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