No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • edited May 16 Posts: 3,078
    but it doesn't mean that I don't respect that everyone has a right to an opinion or value what others are trying to say

    That's all very good and dandy, this all "everyone has the right to an opinion" albeit being savvy or not on the matter, and everything has the same value blah blah, but as soon as you consider that socio and psychopathological stances like racism, xenophobia, bigotry, fundamentalism, ..., are "opinions" or taken higher than opinions, you loose your point entirely. It's not as if the forums task to prevent badly drawn or unsanitary opinions, no, it's up to the sane majority or the more informed fans to make them go away by their own foot. Not every opinion is valid, sir. Everything doesn't hold the same value. That rhetoric was profusely used, for example, by the British government in the years that lead to the second world war, and it allowed for a fungus known as the National Social Party to grow inside Germany, a fungus that would soon consume it and then the rest of us, if some more informed, capable and better oriented people hadn't stepped in, and against the grain put an island and then the world against it.

    This is the wrong thread for all of this, and has been since day one. I do not advocate moderator action on expelling members and censorship. It's up to better oriented fan majorities to do so. Uniting against prejudice, bigotry, paranoia, cheapness of thought, ... If all we do is nothing, we get 2510 pages of trite, with 500, if so, pages of stuff for the books.

    And why shouldn't we take a stance against the tabloids? And why shouldn't we make that news? "Fans are appalled of wrong and damaging tabloid action against film", "Fans stand by the production and the producers",... Now that's something I'd like to see. We could very well have a petition, write a bloody article and send it to Variety. I'm sure that would get good printing, or clicking or whatever.

    Just saying. Now, do carry on.
  • Posts: 9,027
    These Craig injury articles are hilarious. Next up, production will be delayed until 2022 while Craig recovers from nicking himself while shaving.
  • edited May 16 Posts: 47
    Univex wrote: »
    but it doesn't mean that I don't respect that everyone has a right to an opinion or value what others are trying to say

    That's all very good and dandy, this all "everyone has the right to an opinion" albeit being savvy or not on the matter, and everything has the same value blah blah, but as soon as you consider that socio and psychopathological stances like racism, xenophobia, bigotry, fundamentalism, ..., are "opinions" or taken higher than opinions, you loose your point entirely. It's not as if the forums task to prevent badly drawn or unsanitary opinions, no, it's up to the sane majority or the more informed fans to make them go away by their own foot. Not every opinion is valid, sir. Everything doesn't hold the same value. That rhetoric was profusely used, for example, by the British government in the years that lead to the second world war, and it allowed for a fungus known as the National Social Party to grow inside Germany, a fungus that would soon consume it and then the rest of us, if some more informed, capable and better oriented people hadn't stepped in, and against the grain put an island and then the world against it.

    This is the wrong thread for all of this, and has been since day one. I do not advocate moderator action on expelling members and censorship. It's up to better oriented fan majorities to do so. Uniting against prejudice, bigotry, paranoia, cheapness of thought, ... If all we do is nothing, we get 2510 pages of trite, with 500, if so, pages of stuff for the books.

    And why shouldn't we take a stance against the tabloids? And why shouldn't we make that news? "Fans are appalled of wrong and damaging tabloid action against film", "Fans stand by the production and the producers",... Now that's something I'd like to see. We could very well have a petition, write a bloody article and send it to Variety. I'm sure that would get good printing, or clicking or whatever.

    Just saying. Now, do carry on.

    All very well said my dear man but I'm afraid you may have, in your rather well written response, missed the point I was originally trying to make. The partial quote was taken from my wider post whereby I was attempting to encourage the "doomsayers" (for want of a better word) on this forum to not instantly dismiss the opinions of those trying to speak sense - the wider idea is that everyone should listen to what another person has to say, as if you don't, how can you be expected to be listened to, learn or express yourself? How can you come to understand why someone has come to such a negative viewpoint?

    I find it has been a wider part of my narrative since joining the forum: to combat the negativity, the falsehoods, the sexism and whatever else. Indeed as I said similarly in another topic today - there are people who - in light of increasingly shoddy journalism - are determined to prove that two plus two equals five and decree this film is ruined. I'm not one of those people. I'm on a james bond forum because I am happy to see the production of another james bond film. Simple. If others are unhappy about the franchise, then I'll observe their opinions and offer my either simialir or alternative view. Thus is discussion.

    My posts are contextualised in the light of this forum, not general life. Ergo, The suggestion that in believing someone has the right to express a negative opinion on a bond film - which can then be alternatively picked apart by someone with an alternative view - somehow encourages the rise of fascism in nazi Germany is rather tedious in consideration of this forum but a valid point in the wider concept of the world well made and taken on board.

    You make a fair point about taking a stance against the tabloids. But positivity doesn't sell. For every "stand by the producer" quote they printed they'd - for the sake of balance - print a negative one. Because opinion comes from two avenues. Whereas fact is only one, rather neglected, road. The fact is there is only one way these stories and negativities are going to be counteracted - by a good film - and that, in certain, shall be the end result.
  • Posts: 280
    Isn’t it interesting that SF was the only movie that Craig wasn’t hurt on? And it’s his only good one. Uh oh....

    I keed, I keed :)
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ocean Club, Bahamas.
    Posts: 1,448
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    These Craig injury articles are hilarious. Next up, production will be delayed until 2022 while Craig recovers from nicking himself while shaving.

    ;;)
  • edited May 16 Posts: 22
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    But we could always do with one more! So I, for one, am glad you are here.

    We shall toast then.
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    I'm slippin' on the dock of the bay 
    Watchin' the tide, roll away 
    I'm slippin' on the dock of the bay 
    Wastin' time…
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    They're professionals at what they do, they've been making these movies for more than 50 years and this isn't the first time Dan's got injured, He had to get stitches and what not in QoS and they still got that out in time, they'll manage to get it out on time with or without injury.

    Again, who are you?

    How old are you ? like 12
    Here's hoping you get out of your little bubble sooner rather than later, Ive been on these forums for a good 9 years, Univex, Shardlake, RC7 GetaFix, Risico007 are all familiar to me. Your name I cannot recall.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ocean Club, Bahamas.
    Posts: 1,448
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    But we could always do with one more! So I, for one, am glad you are here.

    We shall toast then.

    De funniez.
  • edited May 16 Posts: 40
    Crumbs, I go away for 5 minutes and it all becomes a bit serious. I agree the tabloids are fanatical about rubbishing DC but I guess it fills column inches. Now if they want to flex their journalistic skills, I've got a cold case. Whatever did happen with Stacy Sutton at the end of AVTAK that made Bond make that noise. Where exactly did the soap go? We the people demand answers.

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  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ocean Club, Bahamas.
    Posts: 1,448
    Crumbs, I go away for 5 minutes and it all becomes a bit serious. I agree the tabloids are fanatical about rubbishing DC but I guess it fills column inches. Now if they want to flex their journalistic skills, I've got a cold case. Whatever did happen with Stacy Sutton at the end of AVTAK that made Bond make that noise. Where exactly did the soap go? We the people demand answers.

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    I have that bar of soap signed by the two actors.
  • NicNacNicNac Moderator
    Posts: 6,677
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    But we could always do with one more! So I, for one, am glad you are here.

    We shall toast then.
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    I'm slippin' on the dock of the bay 
    Watchin' the tide, roll away 
    I'm slippin' on the dock of the bay 
    Wastin' time…
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    They're professionals at what they do, they've been making these movies for more than 50 years and this isn't the first time Dan's got injured, He had to get stitches and what not in QoS and they still got that out in time, they'll manage to get it out on time with or without injury.

    Again, who are you?

    How old are you ? like 12
    Here's hoping you get out of your little bubble sooner rather than later, Ive been on these forums for a good 9 years, Univex, Shardlake, RC7 GetaFix, Risico007 are all familiar to me. Your name I cannot recall.

    Your bio says you have been here for 2 years?

    Either way, hopefully long enough to form your own opinions and relationships, and not rely on Reddit to assess the good folk here. I do hope that was said with tongue firmly in cheek.
  • Posts: 3,029
    @MI6 @JamesPage @AndrewLucas

    Would be cool to get the 'Meet the Cast' and 'Meet the Filmmaker' segments for Bond 25 on the main site.

    I was just flicking through the coverage for both SF and SP on the main features and they were a little more comprehensive.

    The main features are a great source in the interests of posterity once the film's have come out.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ocean Club, Bahamas.
    Posts: 1,448
    NicNac wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    But we could always do with one more! So I, for one, am glad you are here.

    We shall toast then.
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    I'm slippin' on the dock of the bay 
    Watchin' the tide, roll away 
    I'm slippin' on the dock of the bay 
    Wastin' time…
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    QuantumArt wrote: »
    ]
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    This injury is meant to have happened last week while Craig was in Jamaica.
    Yesterday Wright was in Pinewood and looked like the production was still motoring along.
    Waller-Bridge didn’t mention anything about production stalling during the Baftas on Sunday.

    Plus, a few pages back a board member mentioned that Craig was snapped in NY over the weekend.

    Sorry but I really don’t think that production has stalled and really won’t believe it until it’s confirmed by a more reputable source than an English newspaper.

    This. A lot of us here are freaking out (again) for nothing.

    To my knowledge The Sun has hated Craig since day one.

    But Panchito had the news.

    Let there be injury,

    You really need to get out of your little bubble

    And you are?

    What kind of a question is that ? how exactly do you expect one to respond to It ?

    you do realise you're living in a little bubble.
    Without being involved in the production of the movie when news breaks out that there's an injury by multiple sources ,you take it as some sort of personal insult. You get all defensive and you aren't able to accept it as if someones bad mouthing your own child and you're sticking up for it. You really need to go out more and breathe some fresh air. If only you could see how this looks from afar. Reddit's James Bond sub was right when they said this place has a lot of "tossers" .

    They're professionals at what they do, they've been making these movies for more than 50 years and this isn't the first time Dan's got injured, He had to get stitches and what not in QoS and they still got that out in time, they'll manage to get it out on time with or without injury.

    Again, who are you?

    How old are you ? like 12
    Here's hoping you get out of your little bubble sooner rather than later, Ive been on these forums for a good 9 years, Univex, Shardlake, RC7 GetaFix, Risico007 are all familiar to me. Your name I cannot recall.

    Your bio says you have been here for 2 years?

    Either way, hopefully long enough to form your own opinions and relationships, and not rely on Reddit to assess the good folk here. I do hope that was said with tongue firmly in cheek.

    :-? Why is it, then, that I'm not so sure?
  • Posts: 3,078
    Univex wrote: »
    but it doesn't mean that I don't respect that everyone has a right to an opinion or value what others are trying to say

    That's all very good and dandy, this all "everyone has the right to an opinion" albeit being savvy or not on the matter, and everything has the same value blah blah, but as soon as you consider that socio and psychopathological stances like racism, xenophobia, bigotry, fundamentalism, ..., are "opinions" or taken higher than opinions, you loose your point entirely. It's not as if the forums task to prevent badly drawn or unsanitary opinions, no, it's up to the sane majority or the more informed fans to make them go away by their own foot. Not every opinion is valid, sir. Everything doesn't hold the same value. That rhetoric was profusely used, for example, by the British government in the years that lead to the second world war, and it allowed for a fungus known as the National Social Party to grow inside Germany, a fungus that would soon consume it and then the rest of us, if some more informed, capable and better oriented people hadn't stepped in, and against the grain put an island and then the world against it.

    This is the wrong thread for all of this, and has been since day one. I do not advocate moderator action on expelling members and censorship. It's up to better oriented fan majorities to do so. Uniting against prejudice, bigotry, paranoia, cheapness of thought, ... If all we do is nothing, we get 2510 pages of trite, with 500, if so, pages of stuff for the books.

    And why shouldn't we take a stance against the tabloids? And why shouldn't we make that news? "Fans are appalled of wrong and damaging tabloid action against film", "Fans stand by the production and the producers",... Now that's something I'd like to see. We could very well have a petition, write a bloody article and send it to Variety. I'm sure that would get good printing, or clicking or whatever.

    Just saying. Now, do carry on.

    All very well said my dear man but I'm afraid you may have, in your rather well written response, missed the point I was originally trying to make. The partial quote was taken from my wider post whereby I was attempting to encourage the "doomsayers" (for want of a better word) on this forum to not instantly dismiss the opinions of those trying to speak sense - the wider idea is that everyone should listen to what another person has to say, as if you don't, how can you be expected to be listened to, learn or express yourself? How can you come to understand why someone has come to such a negative viewpoint?

    I find it has been a wider part of my narrative since joining the forum: to combat the negativity, the falsehoods, the sexism and whatever else. Indeed as I said similarly in another topic today - there are people who - in light of increasingly shoddy journalism - are determined to prove that two plus two equals five and decree this film is ruined. I'm not one of those people. I'm on a james bond forum because I am happy to see the production of another james bond film. Simple. If others are unhappy about the franchise, then I'll observe their opinions and offer my either simialir or alternative view. Thus is discussion.

    My posts are contextualised in the light of this forum, not general life. Ergo, The suggestion that in believing someone has the right to express a negative opinion on a bond film - which can then be alternatively picked apart by someone with an alternative view - somehow encourages the rise of fascism in nazi Germany is rather tedious in consideration of this forum but a valid point in the wider concept of the world well made and taken on board.

    You make a fair point about taking a stance against the tabloids. But positivity doesn't sell. For every "stand by the producer" quote they printed they'd - for the sake of balance - print a negative one. Because opinion comes from two avenues. Whereas fact is only one, rather neglected, road. The fact is there is only one way these stories and negativities are going to be counteracted - by a good film - and that, in certain, shall be the end result.

    Wasn't arguing against you and I would find it hard to do it now. Agreed on all accounts, @HalfOfEverything. Sorry if I used your rather well written post to expand on the subject in a critical way. It was meant to be directed to the topic itself, not your comments on it. Cheers.
  • Posts: 517
    You make a fair point about taking a stance against the tabloids. But positivity doesn't sell. For every "stand by the producer" quote they printed they'd - for the sake of balance - print a negative one. Because opinion comes from two avenues. Whereas fact is only one, rather neglected, road. The fact is there is only one way these stories and negativities are going to be counteracted - by a good film - and that, in certain, shall be the end result.

    I publish once in a while, and I'd disagree. I don't think the problem is 'positivity', per se, but newsworthiness. This is a "dog bites man" vs. "man bites dog" situation.

    "Bond fans support Bond Movie on Bond Website" is not news, and it wouldn't be published by an editor who had a regular slate on his hands. Perhaps there's a fresh angle to be taken on this, or someone could use this as a starting point for a thoughtful essay on tabloid culture or something. But on the surface of it . . . there's nothing there.
  • Posts: 3,078
    octofinger wrote: »
    "Bond fans support Bond Movie on Bond Website" is not news, and it wouldn't be published by an editor who had a regular slate on his hands. Perhaps there's a fresh angle to be taken on this, or someone could use this as a starting point for a thoughtful essay on tabloid culture or something. But on the surface of it . . . there's nothing there.

    Well, to be fair, the stance fans took about the latest instalments and direction of the SW films were very publicised, ad nauseam, really. I don't quite agree there's nothing there. And I wouldn't refer it as a "bond site" as I've seen our reactions mirrored on all "bond sites". Why shouldn't we be vocal? And why wouldn't' that be of interest? To suggest the press is askew on this particular matter? It would serve as meta press, and it would surely get some clicks. I've worked on the area for seven years before I quit, ages ago, and this sort of new was ideal, specially if everyone else was doing the exact opposite. I've see it work countless times.
  • Posts: 280
    This just in!!!

    Daniel Craig has contracted cholera while attempting to drive a stick shift!!
    Naomie Harris caught crying after a spat with director Fukunaga!!
    Ana De Armas is armed with a deadly machine gun and seen yelling uncontrollably. More to follow!!!
    Jeffrey Wright is drunk again in the bar. Rumor has it it’s Craig’s fault!!
    It was raining all day here in Jamaica. This can’t be good!!!
  • ResurrectionResurrection You don't need to be an operative to see the obvious
    Posts: 1,018
    This just in!!!

    Daniel Craig has contracted cholera while attempting to drive a stick shift!!
    Naomie Harris caught crying after a spat with director Fukunaga!!
    Ana De Armas is armed with a deadly machine gun and seen yelling uncontrollably. More to follow!!!
    Jeffrey Wright is drunk again in the bar. Rumor has it it’s Craig’s fault!!
    It was raining all day here in Jamaica. This can’t be good!!!

    :))
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld Minnesota USA
    Posts: 2,227
    This just in!!!

    Daniel Craig has contracted cholera while attempting to drive a stick shift!!
    Naomie Harris caught crying after a spat with director Fukunaga!!
    Ana De Armas is armed with a deadly machine gun and seen yelling uncontrollably. More to follow!!!
    Jeffrey Wright is drunk again in the bar. Rumor has it it’s Craig’s fault!!
    It was raining all day here in Jamaica. This can’t be good!!!

    :))

    And a number of crew kept slipping on banana peels. =))
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    Posts: 417
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    This just in!!!

    Daniel Craig has contracted cholera while attempting to drive a stick shift!!
    Naomie Harris caught crying after a spat with director Fukunaga!!
    Ana De Armas is armed with a deadly machine gun and seen yelling uncontrollably. More to follow!!!
    Jeffrey Wright is drunk again in the bar. Rumor has it it’s Craig’s fault!!
    It was raining all day here in Jamaica. This can’t be good!!!

    :))

    And a number of crew kept slipping on banana peels. =))

    What is this? Mario Kart?
  • ResurrectionResurrection You don't need to be an operative to see the obvious
    Posts: 1,018
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    This just in!!!

    Daniel Craig has contracted cholera while attempting to drive a stick shift!!
    Naomie Harris caught crying after a spat with director Fukunaga!!
    Ana De Armas is armed with a deadly machine gun and seen yelling uncontrollably. More to follow!!!
    Jeffrey Wright is drunk again in the bar. Rumor has it it’s Craig’s fault!!
    It was raining all day here in Jamaica. This can’t be good!!!

    :))

    And a number of crew kept slipping on banana peels. =))

    :))
    Minion wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    This just in!!!

    Daniel Craig has contracted cholera while attempting to drive a stick shift!!
    Naomie Harris caught crying after a spat with director Fukunaga!!
    Ana De Armas is armed with a deadly machine gun and seen yelling uncontrollably. More to follow!!!
    Jeffrey Wright is drunk again in the bar. Rumor has it it’s Craig’s fault!!
    It was raining all day here in Jamaica. This can’t be good!!!

    :))

    And a number of crew kept slipping on banana peels. =))

    What is this? Mario Kart?

    No laughing train hop on :D
  • Posts: 443
    octofinger wrote: »
    I publish once in a while, and I'd disagree. I don't think the problem is 'positivity', per se, but newsworthiness. This is a "dog bites man" vs. "man bites dog" situation.

    "Bond fans support Bond Movie on Bond Website" is not news, and it wouldn't be published by an editor who had a regular slate on his hands. Perhaps there's a fresh angle to be taken on this, or someone could use this as a starting point for a thoughtful essay on tabloid culture or something. But on the surface of it . . . there's nothing there.
    Look, I understand and agree that the tabloids are being ridiculous and vicious against this movie, but the idea that this is some sort of crime being committed that we need to take a stand on is exaggerated as well.

    The world is not going to end because the latest James Bond movie is a target of fake news.

    At the end of the day, if the film is great, we (and the filmmakers) have the last laugh.
  • Univex wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    but it doesn't mean that I don't respect that everyone has a right to an opinion or value what others are trying to say

    That's all very good and dandy, this all "everyone has the right to an opinion" albeit being savvy or not on the matter, and everything has the same value blah blah, but as soon as you consider that socio and psychopathological stances like racism, xenophobia, bigotry, fundamentalism, ..., are "opinions" or taken higher than opinions, you loose your point entirely. It's not as if the forums task to prevent badly drawn or unsanitary opinions, no, it's up to the sane majority or the more informed fans to make them go away by their own foot. Not every opinion is valid, sir. Everything doesn't hold the same value. That rhetoric was profusely used, for example, by the British government in the years that lead to the second world war, and it allowed for a fungus known as the National Social Party to grow inside Germany, a fungus that would soon consume it and then the rest of us, if some more informed, capable and better oriented people hadn't stepped in, and against the grain put an island and then the world against it.

    This is the wrong thread for all of this, and has been since day one. I do not advocate moderator action on expelling members and censorship. It's up to better oriented fan majorities to do so. Uniting against prejudice, bigotry, paranoia, cheapness of thought, ... If all we do is nothing, we get 2510 pages of trite, with 500, if so, pages of stuff for the books.

    And why shouldn't we take a stance against the tabloids? And why shouldn't we make that news? "Fans are appalled of wrong and damaging tabloid action against film", "Fans stand by the production and the producers",... Now that's something I'd like to see. We could very well have a petition, write a bloody article and send it to Variety. I'm sure that would get good printing, or clicking or whatever.

    Just saying. Now, do carry on.

    All very well said my dear man but I'm afraid you may have, in your rather well written response, missed the point I was originally trying to make. The partial quote was taken from my wider post whereby I was attempting to encourage the "doomsayers" (for want of a better word) on this forum to not instantly dismiss the opinions of those trying to speak sense - the wider idea is that everyone should listen to what another person has to say, as if you don't, how can you be expected to be listened to, learn or express yourself? How can you come to understand why someone has come to such a negative viewpoint?

    I find it has been a wider part of my narrative since joining the forum: to combat the negativity, the falsehoods, the sexism and whatever else. Indeed as I said similarly in another topic today - there are people who - in light of increasingly shoddy journalism - are determined to prove that two plus two equals five and decree this film is ruined. I'm not one of those people. I'm on a james bond forum because I am happy to see the production of another james bond film. Simple. If others are unhappy about the franchise, then I'll observe their opinions and offer my either simialir or alternative view. Thus is discussion.

    My posts are contextualised in the light of this forum, not general life. Ergo, The suggestion that in believing someone has the right to express a negative opinion on a bond film - which can then be alternatively picked apart by someone with an alternative view - somehow encourages the rise of fascism in nazi Germany is rather tedious in consideration of this forum but a valid point in the wider concept of the world well made and taken on board.

    You make a fair point about taking a stance against the tabloids. But positivity doesn't sell. For every "stand by the producer" quote they printed they'd - for the sake of balance - print a negative one. Because opinion comes from two avenues. Whereas fact is only one, rather neglected, road. The fact is there is only one way these stories and negativities are going to be counteracted - by a good film - and that, in certain, shall be the end result.

    Wasn't arguing against you and I would find it hard to do it now. Agreed on all accounts, @HalfOfEverything. Sorry if I used your rather well written post to expand on the subject in a critical way. It was meant to be directed to the topic itself, not your comments on it. Cheers.

    Quite alright :) and I fully respect your enthusiasm for the franchise :)
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    ‘Bond 25’ Has Age Issues, Only One of Which Is Daniel Craig
    https://indiewire.com/2019/05/bond-25-injury-production-delay-james-bond-daniel-craig-1202141411/
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    A lot of numbers got thrown around, but ultimately, nothing much was said. The first comment about that article sums up my reaction to it.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    Red_Snow wrote: »

    This article got Roger's tenure length wrong.
  • Posts: 517
    Red_Snow wrote: »

    This article got Roger's tenure length wrong.

    I figure that's forgivable, in the big scheme of things, as a typo. The bigger sin of the article, it seems to me, is that it doesn't have a bloody point.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Surprised at the lack of clapperboards this time around. Usually, we'd have seen a couple more by now.
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    I think like someone on this thread before? If you get a lot of them you could piece the whole sequence of the movie together?
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    Posts: 137
    QBranch wrote: »
    Surprised at the lack of clapperboards this time around. Usually, we'd have seen a couple more by now.

    Their sound could give Craig a heart attack.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 1,357
    James Bond 25 bosses have hired an intimacy coach to help Daniel Craig and Ana De Armas with sex scenes
    https://thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9109203/james-bond-25-coach-daniel-craig-ana-de-armas

    I can exclusively reveal that bosses have for the first time employed an intimacy coach to make sure the actors feel comfortable during sex scenes.

    A film insider said: “Producer Barbara Broccoli and her team are going all out to bring Bond up to speed. It’s all changed in the #MeToo era and they’re going to extra lengths to make sure all the stars are getting the support they need on set, including during some of the more risqué sex scenes.

    “An intimacy coordinator is now on set during those scenes and is working with Daniel Craig and new Bond girl Ana De Armas to run through the script and make sure they feel comfortable. It’s really progressive and is a step in the right direction – not just for Bond but the industry as a whole.”
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