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Agree. I like whatever continuity to be as little as possible, but at the same time, EON can benefit from planning the span of X amount of films. Ideally they should find the release dates to aim at too.
That excuse isn't going to fly. Sorry. Look at how much material the films have flat out ignored or for some reason are too lazy to adapt but instead they want to give us personal vendettas, moles and 'brofeld'. Jeez. Then there are the continuation novels EoN again for whatever reason won't adapt or take chunks from and give it their own spin. Fact is EoN have enough source material to use but they're just not bothering.
I don't know what the rights are re: the continuation novels, but, for me personally, there's only one Fleming. Outside of Colonel Sun, I have found the continuation novels to be pale imitators at best, downright pedestrian and boring at worst.
I agree, as I stated above, that there's still more to get from the Fleming novels. It's just plenty more difficult nowadays to take a few chapters from a novel, or three, and spin it into a fresh script. Whereas Marvel doesn't have this problem. For one, they never had to rely on just one voice as their source material to tell their stories (crafting the comics there are writers and artists and an organic growth from there-- it's a collection of teams over the years), and there are always new stories and chapters being developed; whereas the one true voice of James Bond was regretfully silenced on August 12, 1964.
EoN has far more challenges being a franchise this old, to come up with a fresh story every few years, based, primarily, on source material/inspiration from the 50s and 60s.
But when I look at their complete body of work-- minus some hiccups in every era-- they've done a remarkable job. I have no doubt that this will also continue.
And I agree with @Ludovico about by-passing the continuation novels, for reasons stated above, lol!
Rupert Everett wouldn't have been the worst choice when he was younger. A Google search of Everett + James Bond resulted in this image posted on a different thread by @fanbond123 in 2014:
@peter, the "someone" I was referring to was a generic someone, not aiming at you, my friend. And I do agree with you, although I know I'd personally go back to the novels and create a brand new story with Fleming's elements and particularly apt dialogue for Bond and co., and it would please most of all Bond fan community, which is in itself a gargantuan challenge. No, it wouldn't be a fan fiction. I do this for a living. Fiction, I mean, albeit in another format. So please, EON, if you're reading this, I'll send you my Bio note and you can hire me for the 26th. ;) As long as I can bring my friend @peter along.
lol. Right?
At least we wouldn't need to rely on a journalists Twitter account for news about the production! :-D
Nah, I'd be loyal to the production internal philosophy. But I'd make everyone's angst worthwhile for a change. eheh, gotta stop, too much self promotion ;)
I've handled themes that I'm fanatical about. At least in a novel or two. It's the lack of exemption that works in the end, if what you write is true to the spirit of the thing, and your vision of it isn't just a narcissistic whim.
Granted, it would. Mine would be to inject some old school antics into it and go against the pc rubbish. But I'd have to contain myself not to get Boyeld ;)
I would fit this, absolutely, lol. Even the question, where do they take Bond next, I draw a big old blank. I know what I'd like to see as a fan, I just have no idea where EoN should take James Bond after Craig.
Who should they cast next, I also draw a blank-- more because of the candidates than anything else. For the actors I can most see in the role, I can also see legitimate drawbacks to them as well.
So for now I'll leave big blanks, keeping an open mind, and enjoy the threads while others stake territory!
Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.
I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.
Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.
Hahaha! :-)
Not bad for a start, allthough I wouldn't want another female agent, but she could be a doctor assigned to help Bond understand what's going on. I'd use the staggering into the cave from LALD there too, walking straight into a trap. escape from a certain 'chair' above a geothermal pit.
Oh, he doesn't save her from anything ;) Not even from herself. But I see what you mean. Back to the writing page then ;)
Glad you guys liked it.
I wouldn't complain with a plotline similar to yours @Univex It resembles The Bourne Legacy somewhat, but I actually liked that film (Renner) so yeah! Nice!
Oh yeah, the pharmaceutical angle. That's true. Forgot about Legacy, not a bad film by all means, but a bit forgettable - aside from Mrs. Craig ;)
I was thinking about a film I saw some years ago, a poor straight to tv production starring Timothy Hutton, The Kovak Box, a Spanish-British thriller in which he is invited to a Mediterranean island. His fiancee receives a strange call and jumps to her death from their hotel balcony. Soon after that, people start inexplicably committing suicide all around him. It's an interesting angle if done right, and in connection with that pharmaceutical angle and The Garden of Death.
Nice!, the the geothermal pit would fit rather nicely in Japan, seeing its of vulcanic nature. Good one!