Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 6,709
    So, shall we send our votes to EON offices? lol, they don't care do they. Or do they? Didn't Turner had a talk with Barbara already?
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    talos7 wrote: »
    When launching the next incarnation of Bond, Ideally, the powers that be will have a plan that prevents just wandering from film to film in search of a story and direction. within the span of say 5 films, a basic framework would be Laid out that goes from point "A" to point "E" . This could be done in broad strokes which would leave flexibility for individual films.

    Agree. I like whatever continuity to be as little as possible, but at the same time, EON can benefit from planning the span of X amount of films. Ideally they should find the release dates to aim at too.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    peter wrote: »
    And, like Marvel has a wealth of source material to lean on, the early films had Fleming. The Modern era doesn't have that luxury, or at least not the quantity as they once had.

    That excuse isn't going to fly. Sorry. Look at how much material the films have flat out ignored or for some reason are too lazy to adapt but instead they want to give us personal vendettas, moles and 'brofeld'. Jeez. Then there are the continuation novels EoN again for whatever reason won't adapt or take chunks from and give it their own spin. Fact is EoN have enough source material to use but they're just not bothering.
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    I'm all for ignoring the continuation novels. Fleming wrote Bond, he wrote the source material.
  • Posts: 6,709
    There are so many things left on Ian Fleming's pages. How can someone say we've runout of source material when there are even action pieces left to use. I've been talking about the barracuda swim for years now. And there are many others. The short stories have elements that haven't been used as well. There are chapter titles, characters - oh, so many characters, ...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    No need to apologize @doubleoego -- just a difference of opinion. And I'm not excusing anything.

    I don't know what the rights are re: the continuation novels, but, for me personally, there's only one Fleming. Outside of Colonel Sun, I have found the continuation novels to be pale imitators at best, downright pedestrian and boring at worst.

    I agree, as I stated above, that there's still more to get from the Fleming novels. It's just plenty more difficult nowadays to take a few chapters from a novel, or three, and spin it into a fresh script. Whereas Marvel doesn't have this problem. For one, they never had to rely on just one voice as their source material to tell their stories (crafting the comics there are writers and artists and an organic growth from there-- it's a collection of teams over the years), and there are always new stories and chapters being developed; whereas the one true voice of James Bond was regretfully silenced on August 12, 1964.

    EoN has far more challenges being a franchise this old, to come up with a fresh story every few years, based, primarily, on source material/inspiration from the 50s and 60s.

    But when I look at their complete body of work-- minus some hiccups in every era-- they've done a remarkable job. I have no doubt that this will also continue.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Cue complaints about the CG barracudas, no matter how well they’re done. :D
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    How can someone say we've runout of source material when there are even action pieces left to use.
    I haven't said we've run out of material, @Univex . I've twice stated that there is plenty left in Fleming. I'm saying it's more difficult to do so now, as opposed to Marvel that has ongoing stories coming through their pipe-line, and how many unused (and completely untouched) comics from their past.

    And I agree with @Ludovico about by-passing the continuation novels, for reasons stated above, lol!
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    bondsum wrote: »
    After abstaining from this thread for a little while now, I'm glad to see @Univex has dragged it back on track with his impeccable choice of Aidan Turner along with his defence and reasons behind his choice. There's always going to be distractors. After all, Craig was hardly a popular choice when his name was first announced and still generates disparaging remarks in some quarters. Sure, Turner will be older when B26 finally goes before the cameras, but as @Creasy47 pointed out, Turner has a certain youthfulness and vitality that belies his age. No offence to @Risico007 but when you state you'd rather have Liam Neeson over Aidan Turner, you're clearly not taking into consideration Neeson's age or the fact that he's already turned down the role in the past. Even if we overlook the fact that Neeson will most likely be 70 years old by the time B26 rolls, why in jumping Jupiter would he suddenly decide to take on the role after tuning it down? Besides, Neeson is more suited to the role of M. Or were you simply just showing your disdain for Turner by suggesting an elderly Neeson as your own preference? If so, that's rather like me saying I'd rather see Rupert Everett as Bond than Tom Hiddleston. Of course I wouldn't stoop so low.

    Rupert Everett wouldn't have been the worst choice when he was younger. A Google search of Everett + James Bond resulted in this image posted on a different thread by @fanbond123 in 2014:

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    peter wrote: »
    How can someone say we've runout of source material when there are even action pieces left to use.
    I haven't said we've run out of material, @Univex . I've twice stated that there is plenty left in Fleming. I'm saying it's more difficult to do so now, as opposed to Marvel that has ongoing stories coming through their pipe-line, and how many unused (and completely untouched) comics from their past.

    And I agree with @Ludovico about by-passing the continuation novels, for reasons stated above, lol!

    @peter, the "someone" I was referring to was a generic someone, not aiming at you, my friend. And I do agree with you, although I know I'd personally go back to the novels and create a brand new story with Fleming's elements and particularly apt dialogue for Bond and co., and it would please most of all Bond fan community, which is in itself a gargantuan challenge. No, it wouldn't be a fan fiction. I do this for a living. Fiction, I mean, albeit in another format. So please, EON, if you're reading this, I'll send you my Bio note and you can hire me for the 26th. ;) As long as I can bring my friend @peter along.
    talos7 wrote: »
    Cue complaints about the CG barracudas, no matter how well they’re done. :D

    lol. Right?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    As long as I can bring my friend @peter along
    Ha! I wouldn't go near Bond, lol! Too much of a fan to do a good job! You're a braver man than me @Univex !!
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    Univex wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    How can someone say we've runout of source material when there are even action pieces left to use.
    I haven't said we've run out of material, @Univex . I've twice stated that there is plenty left in Fleming. I'm saying it's more difficult to do so now, as opposed to Marvel that has ongoing stories coming through their pipe-line, and how many unused (and completely untouched) comics from their past.

    And I agree with @Ludovico about by-passing the continuation novels, for reasons stated above, lol!

    @peter, the "someone" I was referring to was a generic someone, not aiming at you, my friend. And I do agree with you, although I know I'd personally go back to the novels and create a brand new story with Fleming's elements and particularly apt dialogue for Bond and co., and it would please most of all Bond fan community, which is in itself a gargantuan challenge. No, it wouldn't be a fan fiction. I do this for a living. Fiction, I mean, albeit in another format. So please, EON, if you're reading this, I'll send you my Bio note and you can hire me for the 26th. ;) As long as I can bring my friend @peter along.

    At least we wouldn't need to rely on a journalists Twitter account for news about the production! :-D
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    At least we wouldn't need to rely on a journalists Twitter account for news about the production! :-D

    Nah, I'd be loyal to the production internal philosophy. But I'd make everyone's angst worthwhile for a change. eheh, gotta stop, too much self promotion ;)
  • edited December 2018 Posts: 6,709
    peter wrote: »
    As long as I can bring my friend @peter along
    Ha! I wouldn't go near Bond, lol! Too much of a fan to do a good job! You're a braver man than me @Univex !!

    I've handled themes that I'm fanatical about. At least in a novel or two. It's the lack of exemption that works in the end, if what you write is true to the spirit of the thing, and your vision of it isn't just a narcissistic whim.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I saw Jack O' Connell in a play about a year ago and he just had the essence of Bond whether for Bond 26 or in the future :D
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    It would be difficult for a fan not to “Mary Sue” a Bond treatment.
  • Posts: 6,709
    talos7 wrote: »
    It would be difficult for a fan not to “Mary Sue” a Bond treatment.

    Granted, it would. Mine would be to inject some old school antics into it and go against the pc rubbish. But I'd have to contain myself not to get Boyeld ;)
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    It would be difficult for a fan not to “Mary Sue” a Bond treatment.

    I would fit this, absolutely, lol. Even the question, where do they take Bond next, I draw a big old blank. I know what I'd like to see as a fan, I just have no idea where EoN should take James Bond after Craig.

    Who should they cast next, I also draw a blank-- more because of the candidates than anything else. For the actors I can most see in the role, I can also see legitimate drawbacks to them as well.

    So for now I'll leave big blanks, keeping an open mind, and enjoy the threads while others stake territory!
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    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.
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    Univex wrote: »
    At least we wouldn't need to rely on a journalists Twitter account for news about the production! :-D

    Nah, I'd be loyal to the production internal philosophy. But I'd make everyone's angst worthwhile for a change. eheh, gotta stop, too much self promotion ;)

    Hahaha! :-)
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    When thinking of bond actors are we gonna assume that they should be ready for a bond film in 2022?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Univex wrote: »
    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.

    Not bad for a start, allthough I wouldn't want another female agent, but she could be a doctor assigned to help Bond understand what's going on. I'd use the staggering into the cave from LALD there too, walking straight into a trap. escape from a certain 'chair' above a geothermal pit.
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    He´s intense, no doubt About that. So far all I´ve seen from him Looks very tv to me and not cinema, but I would give him a Chance, as Long as the Producers know About his strengths, and don´t try to make him into something he is not. I think he is for cinematicality (sorry if I´m inventing words) what Hiddleston is for Alpha Male-dom. I think with both it could work very nicely if the films are built around their respective strengths.
    I notice that my stance on Turner has changed for the better ;-). Interesting.


    I reckon he has given that impression as he mostly starred in TV productions and not really in films made for the cinema. The guy has been tied down in whichever series he starred in, as the main protagonist mind you. In this day and age TV is no longer a dirty word, especially since Netflix/HBO have been around. A-list actors make cross overs to TV and vice versa, so that point is moot imo. Also, have seen you 'And then there were none' yet? A cinematic performance right there, also because the production itself doesn't really come over as 'TV'. TV actors to me sounds like flat, lesser equipped actors than the higher tier ones seen in film. I reckon most people in here are of the opinion Turner certainly isn't '2D', rather a strong potential for the next Bond and Bond does need some '3D acting'.
    TV Actor is Not a term of judgement of quality. There´s a difference between tv acting and Cinema acting, just as there is a difference between stage acting and film acting. None of These is better than the other, they just have different purposes.

    You should become a politician with that reasoning ;)
    Thanks. Not sure if that is a good or bad Thing, haha :-)).

    Good actually, clever too :)
    Well, thank you very much, sir :-).

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    Univex wrote: »
    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.
    I have hardly any complaint About that idea, except I saw a flashing red light and heard a loud warning claxon and a mechanical voice coming through Speakers exclaiming, "Tracy Alarm! Tracy Alarm!", when I read the part About the depressed Lady in the Casino.

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    Watching the recent adaptation of Ordeal by Innocence over the past couple of evenings, I've kept looking at Matthew Goode thinking that he could have been a good choice for a period set Bond film. He's 40 now, with some lines in his face, and a bit more muscle it seems. Of course, we won't get a period Bond anyway; just thought it was worth mentioning.
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.
    I have hardly any complaint About that idea, except I saw a flashing red light and heard a loud warning claxon and a mechanical voice coming through Speakers exclaiming, "Tracy Alarm! Tracy Alarm!", when I read the part About the depressed Lady in the Casino.

    Oh, he doesn't save her from anything ;) Not even from herself. But I see what you mean. Back to the writing page then ;)
    Glad you guys liked it.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Univex wrote: »
    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.

    I wouldn't complain with a plotline similar to yours @Univex It resembles The Bourne Legacy somewhat, but I actually liked that film (Renner) so yeah! Nice!
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    Talking of Agatha Christie adaptations, I think Nicholas Clay, around the time he did Evil Under the Sun and Excalibur, could have made a great Bond.
  • Posts: 6,709
    Univex wrote: »
    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.

    I wouldn't complain with a plotline similar to yours @Univex It resembles The Bourne Legacy somewhat, but I actually liked that film (Renner) so yeah! Nice!


    Oh yeah, the pharmaceutical angle. That's true. Forgot about Legacy, not a bad film by all means, but a bit forgettable - aside from Mrs. Craig ;)

    I was thinking about a film I saw some years ago, a poor straight to tv production starring Timothy Hutton, The Kovak Box, a Spanish-British thriller in which he is invited to a Mediterranean island. His fiancee receives a strange call and jumps to her death from their hotel balcony. Soon after that, people start inexplicably committing suicide all around him. It's an interesting angle if done right, and in connection with that pharmaceutical angle and The Garden of Death.
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    Univex wrote: »
    Just from the top of my head, and in a very poor fashion I must add. Let's try telling a relevant story about the pharmaceutical fascism, and the lack of real and true ideals that command a vision of an apt future for mankind. All this without the loom and gloom.

    I'd have a new Bond (Turner) go to a far out location (say, Japan), in order to stop a mad man inciting people to commit suicide on his island throughout a legislative loophole concerning international waters. This said entrepreneur would work with a couple of known psychiatrists, a network of psychiatrists, in order to lure people from all sorts of relevant lines of work, to his small and deadly island. His aim, unknown. But some members, let's say two, of Her Majesty's government have been missing. And so have others from other nations. One of the 00s has been sent to investigate, four months ago, and has yet to report. Bond is called from his vacation in the Algarve, where he by chance has met a fellow (female) agent suffering from some sort of chemically induced depression, spending her income in the casino while she drinks to oblivion. Note that Bond is the only one not feeling depressed in this treatment. He's called back to London. Meets M for a quick and rather well written expository scene. M sends him to Japan, where he spends a couple of days training for a long swim to the island, being that it's the only way to get there undetected. When he does try to get there, we have the infamous barracuda scene ;) He reaches the shoreline in an awful state and has to recover and infiltrate the castle in a scene reminiscent of Dr. No's escape scene (Black coffee and eggs included, from the, say, specialised gardeners). He then eludes many forms of death traps. Listen, this is all quick and very empty ideia. For all its worth, made the wrong way, we could have a Johnny English 3 made out of it. Done right, we could have another Dr. No. And start afresh from there. If not, there's a Swiss story about couriers I have in mind, and many others.

    Now, do fell free to claw and rip this one apart.

    Not bad for a start, allthough I wouldn't want another female agent, but she could be a doctor assigned to help Bond understand what's going on. I'd use the staggering into the cave from LALD there too, walking straight into a trap. escape from a certain 'chair' above a geothermal pit.


    Nice!, the the geothermal pit would fit rather nicely in Japan, seeing its of vulcanic nature. Good one!
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