Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Certainly is...the silence is a serious worry all round..
    Indeed. Spooks all around the place.
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    Im just thinking that to keep Bond on a more regular timescale,DC will be chopped ,as he had a final clean break in SP and EON will go for someone who can commit to every 2 years...im not sure Bond can wait until 2019/2020....not with all the 'pretenders' around,eg MI and Bourne...
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I'm hoping we'll be getting something soon. Like a word within six months. So far, all we know is that Gary Barber told us Bond 25 is in development, contrary to Craig's claim that "everybody is a little tired."
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I think there will probably be only one more MI film, and maybe a Bourne film. They will have to reboot those franchises soon, with both stars getting on a bit (although I enjoy both series). I seriously doubt we'll see another Bond before 2019 now. EON would have to sputter into life in the next few months, and then they would have to avoid any substantial setback until the film is finished in autumn 2018.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited December 2016 Posts: 15,423
    Mission: Impossible shouldn't be rebooted. As soon as Cruise retires, Ethan Hunt should also retire and another character should take over. I wouldn't be complaining if Jeremy Renner's William Brandt takes up on the role of an IMF team leader. A continuity is always appreciated as the films continue the chronology of the television series.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Exactly. The Bourne movies should be rebooted and stay true the novels. Enough of this anti-CIA stories. Bourne was never an anti-CIA person.
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.
    You're not missing much, really.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.
    You're not missing much, really.

    I know..talk about over-rated,and to think they can rival Bond ? ...get a life..

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.
    You're not missing much, really.

    I know..talk about over-rated,and to think they can rival Bond ? ...get a life..
    Exactly.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Not BOND25 ? and Turner has ladies hands....

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    "Arrrr, Turner has woman's hands, my lord!"


    ;)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.

    The first 3 are entertaining. But they lack the suave sophistication of bond.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Not BOND25 ? and Turner has ladies hands....

    latest?cb=20120830144208
    "Arrrr, Turner has woman's hands, my lord!"


    ;)

    Hahahaha Major,that is one of the best quips you have ever done....the old Tom Baker seadog episode...
    That has made my night.....brilliant...respect old friend haha...

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    suavejmf wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.

    The first 3 are entertaining. But they lack the suave sophistication of bond.
    Every Bond attempt does ;)

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    True. Close but no Cigar.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Bourne was never intended to be like Bond. The approach is quite different. More gritty. More real.

    If anything, it is the MI series (the last two, namely GP & RN) that has come closest to capturing the pre-Craig Bond fantasy, glamour and style. At least from my perspective, they have done an excellent job of it. The last film is easily my favourite in this genre since CR.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Too much Ethan goes rogue though. The only movie he doesn't go rogue is MI2.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I liked Rogue Nation.....but......it was inferior to all the Craig Bonds.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Ghost Protocol wasn't exactly rogue. It was more complicated, shadowy operation.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited December 2016 Posts: 4,116
    barryt007 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.
    You're not missing much, really.

    I know..talk about over-rated,and to think they can rival Bond ? ...get a life..

    Yes add me to the bored with Bourne list. Except maybe for the first one. It was ok but I don't want to own it ..or watch it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.
    You're not missing much, really.

    I know..talk about over-rated,and to think they can rival Bond ? ...get a life..

    Yes add me to the bored with Bourne list. Except maybe for the first one. It was ok but I don't want to own it ..or watch it.
    +1
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2016 Posts: 23,883
    I'm a big Bourne fan, but think they maxed out with Supremacy, which truly was a worthy sequel to Identity and as much of a game changer as the first one. Since then, they've just been making the same film over and over again, which is a shame. There are many directions in which they can take the series if they are serious about it.

    Taking it back to actors, Tom Ellis has the look but I've never seen him in anything.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    I liked Rogue Nation.....but......it was inferior to all the Craig Bonds.

    Debatable. Personally I would only rank Casino Royale as ahead. Rogue Nation is an incredibly entertaining, well made film that left SPECTRE in its shadow.

  • edited December 2016 Posts: 16,134
    barryt007 wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    The last Bourne didn't generate much attention. Truthfully Bourne is dull ..all same shakey cam and evil CIA (:|
    Ive never liked the Bourne films,and dont own a single one....never will.
    You're not missing much, really.

    I know..talk about over-rated,and to think they can rival Bond ? ...get a life..

    Well said. I only saw the first three and although I thought they were entertaining, they tend to run together for me.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Bourne was never intended to be like Bond. The approach is quite different. More gritty. More real.

    If anything, it is the MI series (the last two, namely GP & RN) that has come closest to capturing the pre-Craig Bond fantasy, glamour and style. At least from my perspective, they have done an excellent job of it. The last film is easily my favourite in this genre since CR.

    but @bondjames, the MI films, especially the last two, have never made Bond box office. That's saying something, no? That yes, it's silly and fun, but Bond films, even with the faults of the last two, have an extra layer of "something more, something better".

    Bond doesn't need to go back to the Rog years (they were brilliant because of Rog). Bond needs to follow a more Fleming'esque path that has so delightfully been executed in most of the films since CR. No change is necessary, just more development. Babs has taken the MI franchise on, and the Bourne, and TMFU and she's beaten them at the box office.

    The new era will never be able to replicate the golden age of the 60s, but it does come close in this claustrophobic market we have now. Bond, and the actor who has played him, has never been in better hands SINCE the 60s.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2016 Posts: 23,883
    @peter, it's true that Bond far surpasses MI at the box office, particularly globally. However, I think that's to be expected. If it wasn't so, I'd be quite surprised. Bond has a 50+ year history, 24 films, and the fan base that has been built up over multiple generations. MI only has 5 films, and there have been longer average gaps between the films.

    I think the last two MI films have been spectacular. In combination, I much preferred GP/RN to SF/SP, no matter what the box office results were. RN retained far more of the GP audience from four years prior than SP did of the SF audience (only from 3 years prior), and that's saying something.

    I enjoyed SF immensely though, and I really appreciated that they didn't try to 'out action' the previous year's MI-GP, but rather went in a different, darker direction. That was the right way to play it with Mendes at the helm, as it worked to his strengths.

    I agree that one shouldn't try to replicate the Moore era. They tried that in the 90's and failed (at least in my view). Sir Roger is unique & inimitable and EON should know that by now. That doesn't mean that they can't go for a slightly lighter touch next time around (as Cruise has successfully done with the last two MI entries). Or they can go for a more suspense oriented entry if they want. Both will work.

    I just hope they lay off the 'Bond back story' going forward. One can make a darker, more thriller-like entry without delving into the personal demons of the protagonist, and that's what I'd prefer. I'm sick of the 'peeling back the layers' stuff to be honest. What was novel in CR has become quite tiresome now, at least for this viewer.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited December 2016 Posts: 8,193
    This brings up a well worn debate. I think the last three MI films are, for the most part, superior to the last three Bond films. But I do agree that Bond is the more iconic character and franchise.
    The last time I watched RN I did a little experiment; In my minds eye I replaced Hunt with Bond. I pictured Craig in place of Cruise. While some adjustments would have to made, the results were exactly what I want in a modern Bond. The opera scene in particular was incredible viewed this way.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    I liked Rogue Nation.....but......it was inferior to all the Craig Bonds.

    I disagree. I'd go as far as to say Rogue nation is better than every Craig outing apart from CR.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    talos7 wrote: »
    This brings up a well worn debate. I think the last three MI films are, for the most part, superior to the last three Bond films. But I do agree that Bond is the more iconic character and franchise.
    The last time I watched RN I did a little experiment; In my minds eye I replaced Hunt with Bond. I pictured Craig in place of Cruise. While some adjustments would have to made, the results were exactly what I want in a modern Bond. The opera scene unparticular was incredible viewed this way.

    +1
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