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Things you never want to see in a Bond film again

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    DC's current gunbarrel walk. I'm personally not impressed with the latest one, and would prefer he redid it if he returns.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I thought the walk was fine, and a lot better than his previous efforts (especially SF), but I do get that the gun being visible in his hand bothers some people.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I thought the walk was fine, and a lot better than his previous efforts (especially SF), but I do get that the gun being visible in his hand bothers some people.
    Yes, not a fan of the gun. I much prefer QoS. There's an intensity to his gait and point and shoot there too.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I thought the walk was fine, and a lot better than his previous efforts (especially SF), but I do get that the gun being visible in his hand bothers some people.
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I thought the walk was fine, and a lot better than his previous efforts (especially SF), but I do get that the gun being visible in his hand bothers some people.
    Yes, not a fan of the gun. I much prefer QoS. There's an intensity to his gait and point and shoot there too.
    QoS was great, and I was thrilled to see a traditional rendition of the Bond gunbarrel again after CR. But, somehow, I believe it was too fast and Craig's bending down shoulders didn't help either.
  • daltondalton
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    Never want to see the yellow haze again. It ruins what could have at least been some fantastic visuals in Spectre. The scene at the clinic and the subsequent chase should have been some of the strongest visuals in the franchise, but instead the color grading by Hoytema and Mendes just makes it look dull.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Well, some of the scenes in SF were godawfully yellow, too (casino), and other times they were too blue or cyan.
  • daltondalton
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    For whatever reason, it works in Skyfall, although I'll give you the casino scene as a spot where they might have gone a bit too far with it. But everything else in that film looks superb.

    It's almost as though they were trying to copy the Skyfall look for Spectre, since it was pretty much universally praised, but didn't quite know how to do it, and ended up with the awful muted look that they ended up with.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    I agree on SF being yellow in places too. I noticed that on my last watch. The difference is SF was yellow due to auxilary lighting in the scenes, and could either have been intentional or a result of the digital cameras that Deakins used.

    With SP, the piss colouring was a filter rather than emanating from the room lighting.

    I agree @Dalton, bloody annoying and a terrible creative decision in my view, because it's so similar to all the CGI garbage in most of the Marvel/DC output. If you see the trailer for Assassin's Creed starring Michael Fassbender, you can see the same look throughout all the CGI landscape scenes.
  • daltondalton
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    bondjames wrote: »
    With SP, the piss colouring was a filter rather than emanating from the room lighting.

    That seemed to be the biggest difference. Also, and this may be a result of the difference between two techniques used (I'm far from an expert on lighting and such things) is that the picture in SF appears to be quite sharp, whereas the look of SP appears to be quite dull, even in places such as Austria where the snow and the modern architecture of the clinic should have provided a beautiful and sharp look that ultimately wasn't there.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    dalton wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    With SP, the piss colouring was a filter rather than emanating from the room lighting.

    That seemed to be the biggest difference. Also, and this may be a result of the difference between two techniques used (I'm far from an expert on lighting and such things) is that the picture in SF appears to be quite sharp, whereas the look of SP appears to be quite dull, even in places such as Austria where the snow and the modern architecture of the clinic should have provided a beautiful and sharp look that ultimately wasn't there.
    Exactly @dalton. Well said. I'm no expert either, but I believe that is on account of CGI augmentation in many scenes. I saw it on the rooftops of the Grand Bazaar during the bike chase in SF as well (when Craig's face was inserted on the stunt man's body). The digital camera had an effect too, but CGI interference is definitely evident, and may have actually necessitated the filter (not sure).
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    No trace of a regional accent. ;) we've had enough of that.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    Pierce Brosnan
    Halle Barry
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I would honestly love to never see the DB5, give Bond a new car for the 21st Century
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Am I the only one who actually sees the DB5 and the PPK being Bond's in-universe trademarks?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    PPK for me but not the DB5. I thought Bond drove a Bentley (even in FRWL).

    I found the Lotus Esprit & Aston DBS (OHMSS) just as iconic, but I was not around when GF was released, and given that was the first gadget laden car for Bond, I can imagine that it probably is more memorable for most.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Well, let's face it that the films have set the signatures for the Bond template. The DB5 doesn't even exist as a property of Bond's in the literary universe. But, it's associated with Bond thanks to the EON films so... Like the martinis, tuxedos, PPK, the DB5 is one of Bond's trademarks.

    At least, that's how I see it.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Time to give the next generation of kids a new toy car ;)
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    edited June 2016 Posts: 4,325
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Well, let's face it that the films have set the signatures for the Bond template. The DB5 doesn't even exist as a property of Bond's in the literary universe. But, it's associated with Bond thanks to the EON films so... Like the martinis, tuxedos, PPK, the DB5 is one of Bond's trademarks.

    At least, that's how I see it.

    Yes, but it does have its roots in literary Bond - Bond has a DB3 in Goldfinger.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I'd like to see Bond in older cars. In the books he always preferred older cars (and I mean that they were old for the time the books were written in).
    Would Austin-Healey 3000 make the cut? ;)

    It's a wonderful car.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    The DB 5 vanished after TB and wasn't seen again until GE,that's one hell
    of a gap for a Trademark ;) might as well bring back the trilby hat, with it
    being flung on to the coat stand.
    Although only my opinion, if you love the car, keep on loving. :)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited June 2016 Posts: 15,423
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    The DB 5 vanished after TB and wasn't seen again until GE,that's one hell
    of a gap for a Trademark ;) might as well bring back the trilby hat, with it
    being flung on to the coat stand.
    Although only my opinion, if you love the car, keep on loving. :)
    Rog and Laz used it in the 80s and it was advertised for The Living Daylights, too. ;)

    Only absent in the 70s, I believe. The age of muscle cars, which I am far from being fond of.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    The DBS used by Lazenby is ( only my opinion of course ) a much more beautiful car.
    Also in Bond's wotld, I can't see him putting on a pair of overalls, to get under the DB5
    at weekends, to fix some problem or other.
    ;)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I never liked the DBS myself (1969 version that is). It had the look of a muscle car, even though it wasn't. Too sharp with the edges, not stylish enough. But, that's just me, of course.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I thought it had such lovely lines ;) very elegant, but we all have different tastes.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Of course. And I happen to be one of the very few people on Earth who dislikes the car, which speaks so much about it. :D
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I knew it couldn't be me, I'm always right ! :P :D
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Well, let's face it that the films have set the signatures for the Bond template. The DB5 doesn't even exist as a property of Bond's in the literary universe. But, it's associated with Bond thanks to the EON films so... Like the martinis, tuxedos, PPK, the DB5 is one of Bond's trademarks.

    At least, that's how I see it.

    But he does drive a DB3 in Goldfinger, hence the DB5 in the film, it was still in early stages of production when EON came to use it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Lancaster007 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Well, let's face it that the films have set the signatures for the Bond template. The DB5 doesn't even exist as a property of Bond's in the literary universe. But, it's associated with Bond thanks to the EON films so... Like the martinis, tuxedos, PPK, the DB5 is one of Bond's trademarks.

    At least, that's how I see it.

    But he does drive a DB3 in Goldfinger, hence the DB5 in the film, it was still in early stages of production when EON came to use it.
    Yes, but DB Mark III is not DB5.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Lancaster007 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Well, let's face it that the films have set the signatures for the Bond template. The DB5 doesn't even exist as a property of Bond's in the literary universe. But, it's associated with Bond thanks to the EON films so... Like the martinis, tuxedos, PPK, the DB5 is one of Bond's trademarks.

    At least, that's how I see it.

    But he does drive a DB3 in Goldfinger, hence the DB5 in the film, it was still in early stages of production when EON came to use it.
    Yes, but DB Mark III is not DB5.

    Yes but one assumes they were just updating what was in the novel.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Has anyone seen the fith gear special on the Aston Martin ? Where they explain it was
    a neighbours car, fitted out for time trials, that inspired Fleming to use the car. So
    according to them it was infact a DB2 mkiii, which Fleming misnamed as a DB3 . :)
    I thought it was an interesting bit of trivia.
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