Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    I never minded Bond not being "muscular" or bulky. In fact with Moore, Dalton and Brosnan I always thought of Bond being a normally build man.

    The only scene in Casino Royale that is a crime and should have never been made, is that hilarious Ursula Andress parody moment with Craig at the beach. Really, how could Martin Campbell let this happen.
    Luckily it's short enough not to harm the movie, but still...Craig was WAY TO MUSCULAR there.

    Far from harming the movie, it made the movie.

    That's because Bond films aren't made for hardcore fans, they are made for the cinema going public in general, and believe me that scene was the most famous scene in the film and became one of the most iconic moments in 21st century film. Surely that is where Bond should be? Up there competing with the best?

    So, you may not like it, but it isn't a 'crime' and it isn't 'hilarious'.

  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    NicNac wrote: »
    I never minded Bond not being "muscular" or bulky. In fact with Moore, Dalton and Brosnan I always thought of Bond being a normally build man.

    The only scene in Casino Royale that is a crime and should have never been made, is that hilarious Ursula Andress parody moment with Craig at the beach. Really, how could Martin Campbell let this happen.
    Luckily it's short enough not to harm the movie, but still...Craig was WAY TO MUSCULAR there.

    Far from harming the movie, it made the movie.

    That's because Bond films aren't made for hardcore fans, they are made for the cinema going public in general, and believe me that scene was the most famous scene in the film and became one of the most iconic moments in 21st century film. Surely that is where Bond should be? Up there competing with the best?

    So, you may not like it, but it isn't a 'crime' and it isn't 'hilarious'.

    I think the Bond films are made for all and there is a Bond film and Bond actor for everyone.i guess the succes of the Craig films and his portrayal have been stranslating very well the Bond of the novels to the big screen.

    Sean Connery, Roger Moore and George Lazenby were just based on the character of the novels. Cubby and terrenceYoung got what would people like from the character of the novels to put on the Cinemmatic Bond with a few transformations for each actor.

    Dalton was full on the Bond of the novels and it didnt translate very well on the big screen because at that time they didn't know to do it then. So they took a break and went back to the cinemmatic Bond latter Barbara Broccoli got a second chance and found her way to put on the big screen a succesful adaptation of the Bond from the novels on film.

    At least thats the way i see it.

  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I never minded Bond not being "muscular" or bulky. In fact with Moore, Dalton and Brosnan I always thought of Bond being a normally build man.

    The only scene in Casino Royale that is a crime and should have never been made, is that hilarious Ursula Andress parody moment with Craig at the beach. Really, how could Martin Campbell let this happen.
    Luckily it's short enough not to harm the movie, but still...Craig was WAY TO MUSCULAR there.

    Many consider that a very iconic scene.

    Many consider Coldplay's second album to be a seminal piece of Rock. Doesn't actually make it so...
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    AceHole wrote: »

    Many consider Coldplay's second album to be a seminal piece of Rock. Doesn't actually make it so...

    All a matter of taste. It doesn't - for whatever reason - do a lot for me, but when the film was released, it sure helped highten the hype. And make DC the new heartthrob.
    It sure helped the film and his popularity back then.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    AceHole wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I never minded Bond not being "muscular" or bulky. In fact with Moore, Dalton and Brosnan I always thought of Bond being a normally build man.

    The only scene in Casino Royale that is a crime and should have never been made, is that hilarious Ursula Andress parody moment with Craig at the beach. Really, how could Martin Campbell let this happen.
    Luckily it's short enough not to harm the movie, but still...Craig was WAY TO MUSCULAR there.

    Many consider that a very iconic scene.

    Many consider Coldplay's second album to be a seminal piece of Rock. Doesn't actually make it so...

    But it has become an iconic image. It was hyped and much talked about at the time. It was the moment women discovered Daniel Craig, believe me.

    Dalton may look like Fleming's Bond, but no one (especially women) talked about his shirtless scene in LTK, and however much it may offend our fundamental beliefs, cinema Bond is a different animal to book Bond. Always has been always will be.

    Purists on this forum can't get their heads round that. BB keeps Bond as close to Fleming as she can, but she knows that she has to look after an audience who have no idea who Ian Fleming is. And if they know they don't care.

    It's just a fact of Bond life.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Agreed that scene set many tongues wagging. ;) I remember they even produced
    ice lollies of Craigs torso.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    NicNac wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I never minded Bond not being "muscular" or bulky. In fact with Moore, Dalton and Brosnan I always thought of Bond being a normally build man.

    The only scene in Casino Royale that is a crime and should have never been made, is that hilarious Ursula Andress parody moment with Craig at the beach. Really, how could Martin Campbell let this happen.
    Luckily it's short enough not to harm the movie, but still...Craig was WAY TO MUSCULAR there.

    Many consider that a very iconic scene.

    Many consider Coldplay's second album to be a seminal piece of Rock. Doesn't actually make it so...

    But it has become an iconic image. It was hyped and much talked about at the time. It was the moment women discovered Daniel Craig, believe me.

    Dalton may look like Fleming's Bond, but no one (especially women) talked about his shirtless scene in LTK, and however much it may offend our fundamental beliefs, cinema Bond is a different animal to book Bond. Always has been always will be.

    Purists on this forum can't get their heads round that. BB keeps Bond as close to Fleming as she can, but she knows that she has to look after an audience who have no idea who Ian Fleming is. And if they know they don't care.

    It's just a fact of Bond life.

    Astutely put.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited March 2016 Posts: 9,020
    It looked like a speedo commercial.
    If that is the scene CR is remembered by, by the general public, then it doesn't do the movie justice.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's like " When Harry met Sally" I've never seen the film but even I know the
    Fake orgsum scene. ;)
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    It looked like a speedo commercial.
    If that is the scene CR is remembered by, by the general public, then it doesn't do the movie justice.

    ;)
    Well, the public remember moments, because they probably will only ever watch the film once or twice in their lives. So, yes, chances are that's what they will remember.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    It looked like a speedo commercial.
    If that is the scene CR is remembered by, by the general public, then it doesn't do the movie justice.

    I see and respect your point. Didn't hit me one way or the other except as another Honey Ryder Dr. No reference similar to the Berry one in just the previous film.

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    In those shorts of Daniel I could clearly " See and respect his..... " I'll get my coat. ;)
  • NicNac wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I never minded Bond not being "muscular" or bulky. In fact with Moore, Dalton and Brosnan I always thought of Bond being a normally build man.

    The only scene in Casino Royale that is a crime and should have never been made, is that hilarious Ursula Andress parody moment with Craig at the beach. Really, how could Martin Campbell let this happen.
    Luckily it's short enough not to harm the movie, but still...Craig was WAY TO MUSCULAR there.

    Many consider that a very iconic scene.

    Many consider Coldplay's second album to be a seminal piece of Rock. Doesn't actually make it so...

    But it has become an iconic image. It was hyped and much talked about at the time. It was the moment women discovered Daniel Craig, believe me.

    Dalton may look like Fleming's Bond, but no one (especially women) talked about his shirtless scene in LTK, and however much it may offend our fundamental beliefs, cinema Bond is a different animal to book Bond. Always has been always will be.

    Purists on this forum can't get their heads round that. BB keeps Bond as close to Fleming as she can, but she knows that she has to look after an audience who have no idea who Ian Fleming is. And if they know they don't care.

    It's just a fact of Bond life.

    Bingo.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Dalton too scrawny?!!! Check out this incredible photo of him as Bond:

    http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/timothy-dalton-as-james-bond-does-his-own-stunt-work-in-the-007-to-picture-id160978561

    Wow - that is James Bond. Period. :-O That is one of the best film photos I've ever seen!!!! Just found it on Getty Images.

    Mooning the driver? What class.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Dalton too scrawny?!!! Check out this incredible photo of him as Bond:

    http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/timothy-dalton-as-james-bond-does-his-own-stunt-work-in-the-007-to-picture-id160978561

    Wow - that is James Bond. Period. :-O That is one of the best film photos I've ever seen!!!! Just found it on Getty Images.

    Mooning the driver? What class.

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    PC gif. Bravo.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Is that a young Dwayne Johnson, wow, I wish I could see the rest of him at that age :P
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I think that's back in the day when he was with the Nation of Domination. He used to go as Rocky Maiva then. That gif is addictive..
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    I will say that Fleming would probably agree with you.
    There's some passages in his books that are pretty bad.
    I don't think he had the most enlightened view of race.

    If he were somehow alive today, I don't think Fleming would necessarily be against a black Bond in 2016. When it came to the movies he was a pragmatist. Sean Connery was not his idea of Bond, but he accepted him in the role, especially after a female acquaintances gave him her approval and the movies became hits. In 1962 having a black actor as Bond would have negatively affected the box office. Today it might increase it and also create positive publicity for the series--two things Fleming would have welcomed.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Is that a young Dwayne Johnson, wow, I wish I could see the rest of him at that age :P

    Here's the full segment/promo. He was such a cocky bastard back then and that was before he turned it all the way up and became tge best vrrsion of his The Rock character (1998-2000).


    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3a3fr_a-nation-of-domination-interview_people
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Is that a young Dwayne Johnson, wow, I wish I could see the rest of him at that age :P

    Here's the full segment/promo. He was such a cocky bastard back then and that was before he turned it all the way up and became tge best vrrsion of his The Rock character (1998-2000).


    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3a3fr_a-nation-of-domination-interview_people

    Never realised how old Dwayne Johnson already is....
    ...he's older than me :-O
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I was thinking today, would any Scottish actor take on the role of 007, as I'd say
    everthing he'd do would, immediately be compared to Sir Sean ?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    That's been happening already with the other 5 actors; being compared to Sean. If we got another Scott, you'd be surprised at how vocally supportive and a torch carrier of the series Sean himself will all of a sudden become.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    Emun Elliott would be interesting.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Interesting, nice to see he's a fan and interested. :)
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    Well, would he say, he is not a fan, even if he isnt. Hardly, so that doesnt mean a lot. But who wouldnt want that chance.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    He also went to Eaton, so has had Bond's upbringing. ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I'm for Aidan Turner, all the way! [-O<
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Alexander Skarrsgard looks the part, can do 'dark', pretty good in fight scenes, interesting actor. Yep I'm of to the bookies.

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