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  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    Getafix wrote: »
    The prospect of another Martin Campbell entry really doesn't excite me at all.

    massively overrated IMO.

    I agree. And a couple of his films outside of Bond are pure dreck. Green Lantern Vertical Limit. And a few others not that great either. He got lucky with Goldeneye and Casino Royale in that he had great material to work with. I would much prefer Mendes to return. He is a far superior director to Campbell.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    The prospect of another Martin Campbell entry really doesn't excite me at all.

    massively overrated IMO.

    I agree. And a couple of his films outside of Bond are pure dreck. Green Lantern Vertical Limit. And a few others not that great either. He got lucky with Goldeneye and Casino Royale in that he had great material to work with. I would much prefer Mendes to return. He is a far superior director to Campbell.

    I don't want Mendes either. Need new.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,965
    Bring Lewis Gilbert back!
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited December 2015 Posts: 2,138
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,490
    smitty wrote: »
    I think George Miller could make a great Bond film. He has done an incredibly wide variety of stuff, and he has written a lot of his films too. Bond badly needs a director for 25 that knows what a good script requires. He may be around 70 but MM was a killer to direct so he must still have plenty of stamina.


    I would love this, but being the 'Fury Road' fan that I am, I'm feeling selfish and want him to do nothing but focus on the next 'Mad Max.' Can't say I'd be terribly upset if he held off on it to direct the next Bond film; that'd be something.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited December 2015 Posts: 11,425
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.

    Ey? That doesn't make sense. Whatever changes have happened, MI5 and MI6 do still exist as distinct entities, even if they're under some all encompassing SIS umbrella.

    And SIS continue to recruit from within the military. Retiring military officers often find themselves moving over to the security services.

    On top of that, SIS obviously continue to work very closely with the UK military on both domestic security and in combat environments overseas. Do you really think MI6 wasn't in Iraq during the war there and that they weren't working with the UK and US military?

    So the idea Bond can't carry out a joint operation with the Royal Navy is total nonsense. And even if it weren't, Bond lives in a fictional world where almost anything is possible, so why not anyway?
  • BondBugBondBug
    Posts: 158
    PDJamesBond wrote: »
    If there were an official statement from EON saying that Daniel Craig was returning and Martin Campbell was directing, I think I might actually sob with happiness.

    If I could travel forward in time 50 years for a week to watch the next 20 Bond movies, I would by very happy too.

  • GettlerGettler
    Posts: 315
    Please no Guy Ritchie. I don't want to see Bond head in that direction. I admire his works, but he's more of an action comedy type that doesn't seem quite fitting for Bond. At least for Craig's era.
    That being said, I am a Nolanite, but Mendes has been compared to him so much, but that doesn't mean Nolan wouldn't have a great idea. Maybe just a one time thing?
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited December 2015 Posts: 2,138
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.

    Ey? That doesn't make sense. Whatever changes have happened, MI5 and MI6 do still exist as distinct entities, even if they're under some all encompassing SIS umbrella.

    And SIS continue to recruit from within the military. Retiring military officers often find themselves moving over to the security services.

    On top of that, SIS obviously continue to work very closely with the UK military on both domestic security and in combat environments overseas. Do you really think MI6 wasn't in Iraq during the war there and that they weren't working with the UK and US military?

    So the idea Bond can't carry out a joint operation with the Royal Navy is total nonsense. And even if it weren't, Bond lives in a fictional world where almost anything is possible, so why not anyway?

    No mate. Bond can no longer work for SIS and be a commander in the way Fleming wrote of Bond working for the Secret Service, which started as Naval intelligence. Which Fleming in real life was key to creating. SIS are not aligned to the military they are basically the UK equivalent to the FBI and CIA under one umbrella.

    As for the fictional since Dalton they have continued to modernise to make it more real and believable it's unlikely they would go back to Bond working for an outdated Intelligence service you for him to be called a Commander.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 754
    I like SP, but if I dream of a George Miller, MM version of SP... set some parameters: Bond can't leave the Alps, no London team scenes, make it awesome... Done, sir.

    If only...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,490
    At least you're totally guaranteed that the action of a George Miller led Bond film would most certainly deliver.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.

    Ey? That doesn't make sense. Whatever changes have happened, MI5 and MI6 do still exist as distinct entities, even if they're under some all encompassing SIS umbrella.

    And SIS continue to recruit from within the military. Retiring military officers often find themselves moving over to the security services.

    On top of that, SIS obviously continue to work very closely with the UK military on both domestic security and in combat environments overseas. Do you really think MI6 wasn't in Iraq during the war there and that they weren't working with the UK and US military?

    So the idea Bond can't carry out a joint operation with the Royal Navy is total nonsense. And even if it weren't, Bond lives in a fictional world where almost anything is possible, so why not anyway?

    No mate. Bond can no longer work for SIS and be a commander in the way Fleming wrote of Bond working for the Secret Service, which started as Naval intelligence. Which Fleming in real life was key to creating. SIS are not aligned to the military they are basically the UK equivalent to the FBI and CIA under one umbrella.

    As for the fictional since Dalton they have continued to modernise to make it more real and believable it's unlikely they would go back to Bond working for an outdated Intelligence service you for him to be called a Commander.

    I'm not convinced. A serving Royal Naval officer could be seconded to SIS. It's still totally possible for a member of the UK military to work for SIS. Sure it happens all the time.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited December 2015 Posts: 45,489
    He could still be Captain Bond.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Commander Bond, surely?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    He could still be Captain Bond.
    Win, Lose or Die. ;)
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.

    Ey? That doesn't make sense. Whatever changes have happened, MI5 and MI6 do still exist as distinct entities, even if they're under some all encompassing SIS umbrella.

    And SIS continue to recruit from within the military. Retiring military officers often find themselves moving over to the security services.

    On top of that, SIS obviously continue to work very closely with the UK military on both domestic security and in combat environments overseas. Do you really think MI6 wasn't in Iraq during the war there and that they weren't working with the UK and US military?

    So the idea Bond can't carry out a joint operation with the Royal Navy is total nonsense. And even if it weren't, Bond lives in a fictional world where almost anything is possible, so why not anyway?

    No mate. Bond can no longer work for SIS and be a commander in the way Fleming wrote of Bond working for the Secret Service, which started as Naval intelligence. Which Fleming in real life was key to creating. SIS are not aligned to the military they are basically the UK equivalent to the FBI and CIA under one umbrella.

    As for the fictional since Dalton they have continued to modernise to make it more real and believable it's unlikely they would go back to Bond working for an outdated Intelligence service you for him to be called a Commander.

    I'm not convinced. A serving Royal Naval officer could be seconded to SIS. It's still totally possible for a member of the UK military to work for SIS. Sure it happens all the time.

    Your off your head mate. SIS employees are civil servants, Naval employees are employed by Her Majesty's Armed Forces. You can convince yourself that could happen but it's still tripe. It's like saying a burger king employee could be seconded to McDonald's because they both sell burgers.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.

    Ey? That doesn't make sense. Whatever changes have happened, MI5 and MI6 do still exist as distinct entities, even if they're under some all encompassing SIS umbrella.

    And SIS continue to recruit from within the military. Retiring military officers often find themselves moving over to the security services.

    On top of that, SIS obviously continue to work very closely with the UK military on both domestic security and in combat environments overseas. Do you really think MI6 wasn't in Iraq during the war there and that they weren't working with the UK and US military?

    So the idea Bond can't carry out a joint operation with the Royal Navy is total nonsense. And even if it weren't, Bond lives in a fictional world where almost anything is possible, so why not anyway?

    No mate. Bond can no longer work for SIS and be a commander in the way Fleming wrote of Bond working for the Secret Service, which started as Naval intelligence. Which Fleming in real life was key to creating. SIS are not aligned to the military they are basically the UK equivalent to the FBI and CIA under one umbrella.

    As for the fictional since Dalton they have continued to modernise to make it more real and believable it's unlikely they would go back to Bond working for an outdated Intelligence service you for him to be called a Commander.

    I'm not convinced. A serving Royal Naval officer could be seconded to SIS. It's still totally possible for a member of the UK military to work for SIS. Sure it happens all the time.

    Your off your head mate. SIS employees are civil servants, Naval employees are employed by Her Majesty's Armed Forces. You can convince yourself that could happen but it's still tripe. It's like saying a burger king employee could be seconded to McDonald's because they both sell burgers.

    I honestly don't think the vast majority of cinema goers would give a shit. They could easily make him Commander.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    Posts: 871
    RC7 wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    Couldn't agree more. The Bond films need to get back to the OPERATIONAL side of things, as opposed to the relational.
    And the military/naval connection has been lost since the start of the Craig era.. the 'M' in MI6 does stand for military, after all.

    But that's because Dan's Bond is in the modern world, MI6 no longer exists as the secret service is no longer aligned to the Navy. Hence why they dropped the commander. MI5 and MI6 were merged to form SIS the joint intelligent services its own body and why Dan wheres the SIS crest on his training gear in Skyfall when he is trying to get back in shape.

    Ey? That doesn't make sense. Whatever changes have happened, MI5 and MI6 do still exist as distinct entities, even if they're under some all encompassing SIS umbrella.

    And SIS continue to recruit from within the military. Retiring military officers often find themselves moving over to the security services.

    On top of that, SIS obviously continue to work very closely with the UK military on both domestic security and in combat environments overseas. Do you really think MI6 wasn't in Iraq during the war there and that they weren't working with the UK and US military?

    So the idea Bond can't carry out a joint operation with the Royal Navy is total nonsense. And even if it weren't, Bond lives in a fictional world where almost anything is possible, so why not anyway?

    No mate. Bond can no longer work for SIS and be a commander in the way Fleming wrote of Bond working for the Secret Service, which started as Naval intelligence. Which Fleming in real life was key to creating. SIS are not aligned to the military they are basically the UK equivalent to the FBI and CIA under one umbrella.

    As for the fictional since Dalton they have continued to modernise to make it more real and believable it's unlikely they would go back to Bond working for an outdated Intelligence service you for him to be called a Commander.

    I'm not convinced. A serving Royal Naval officer could be seconded to SIS. It's still totally possible for a member of the UK military to work for SIS. Sure it happens all the time.

    Your off your head mate. SIS employees are civil servants, Naval employees are employed by Her Majesty's Armed Forces. You can convince yourself that could happen but it's still tripe. It's like saying a burger king employee could be seconded to McDonald's because they both sell burgers.

    I honestly don't think the vast majority of cinema goers would give a shit. They could easily make him Commander.

    Agreed, there's no need for realism in that sense.

  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Since we're on the topic of Bond 25, who here is confident Mr. Craig will return for one more? I'm hoping he does.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited December 2015 Posts: 10,588
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Since we're on the topic of Bond 25, who here is confident Mr. Craig will return for one more? I'm hoping he does.

    Very confident. But I hope there's no truth to the rumour that Rachel Weisz is threatening to divorce Dan if he does another Bond film.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    I think he will. Didn't he say recently that he'd keep doing them as long as he's physically able?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    I think he will. Didn't he say recently that he'd keep doing them as long as he's physically able?
    There's a recent interview out there with him saying he's "not gone yet".
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    jake24 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Since we're on the topic of Bond 25, who here is confident Mr. Craig will return for one more? I'm hoping he does.

    Very confident. But I hope there's no truth to the rumour that Rachel Weiss is threatening to divorce Dan if he does another Bond film.

    What? I didn't hear that one.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,984
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Since we're on the topic of Bond 25, who here is confident Mr. Craig will return for one more? I'm hoping he does.

    Very confident. But I hope there's no truth to the rumour that Rachel Weiss is threatening to divorce Dan if he does another Bond film.

    What? I didn't hear that one.

    That sounds like the definition of a fabricated tabloid story.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    echo wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Since we're on the topic of Bond 25, who here is confident Mr. Craig will return for one more? I'm hoping he does.

    Very confident. But I hope there's no truth to the rumour that Rachel Weiss is threatening to divorce Dan if he does another Bond film.

    What? I didn't hear that one.

    That sounds like the definition of a fabricated tabloid story.

    There is no truth in that. Seems, they both allow each other to do professionally, what they want to. Rachel is busy as hell at the moment and for some time now.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    It wasn't a fabricated story. However, the "threat" was said in jest. The woman wants to spend time with her husband and just as Craig didn't want to think about doing another Bond movie while in the final stages of PP, Rachel doesn't want to think about the man she married being off and away for another 7 to 8 months.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    edited December 2015 Posts: 6,601
    doubleoego wrote: »
    It wasn't a fabricated story. However, the "threat" was said in jest. The woman wants to spend time with her husband and just as Craig didn't want to think about doing another Bond movie while in the final stages of PP, Rachel doesn't want to think about the man she married being off and away for another 7 to 8 months.

    So, you heard her saying it and it was with a twinkle in her eye or what? And the papers build a story on it. Entirely possible, even though I still doubt, she would, even in jest, say that.
    It certainly ain't true as a serious meaning.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    Look, it's the same thing as when a man says, "my wife will kill me if I splash out on such and such purchase". The comment wasn't supposed to be taken seriously. I don't know what's wrong with people these days.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    All I am saying is, that the way the mags made it sound was fabricated. So, that part of your post I am talking about.
  • walter1985walter1985 Rotterdam
    Posts: 91
    bring Michael G. Wilson back as a writer and let John Glen direct Bond 25. the men worked on two of my favorite Bond-films (LTK and FYEO) and the other '80's Bond-films are very very nice.

    ;-)
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